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Quick Reaction: 11x03 Bad Seed

Oh man, okay, so...

I've been drinking red wine tonight, which means I'm 10x drunker than usual.

So... here goes?

This episode, I thought, was largely about wrapping up storylines from last season, setting up this season, and getting to know The Darkness.

But, let's go through it. As per the new custom this year, I took notes so that I could remember scene order.

Let's get started!

(Oh man, I am so drunk, please forgive me)

We start with Rowena, who is trying to sell the "Mega Coven"... oh man, such a ridiculous name... so pathetic sounding. I love how people respond accordingly. The witches are not impressed. Even more not impressed because Rowena is claiming Crowley is dead, when in fact he is very much alive and everyone seems to know it but her. So, she kills them. But MAN, that red dress is GORGEROUS. Gues, someone by me that dress and then change the shape of my hips and thighs so that I look good in it.

Now to Sam and Dean - Dean is rather preoccupied with the Darkness, it seems. I'm not sure I'm liking their weird link thing. It's very circumspect!

I LOVE the ensuring conversation though - in just a few short sentences, we establish where everyone stands this season. Dean argues that the Darkness, while an adult when he met her, is "just a kid" now...Sam suggests that maybe God is an option... Cas has absolutely no faith in God.  Man, it's so short and brief, yet tells us so much.

Anyway, the long and short of it is that they need both Rowena AND Metatron. They need Rowena to break the spell on Cas, and Metatron to hopefully tell them how to fight/lock-away the Darkness.

Now to Croooowley

How come it's CRAowley when you spell it Crowley and not CROWley... is it because of the E after the L. If I spelt it Crowly would we say it different? English is weird guys. SUPER WEIRD.

Right, Crowley. Crowley wants to annihilate Rowena. Woot. He doesn't seem particularly torn up about it, so is all the parts of Fergus that were awaken at the end of S8 dead? I guess so.

In the meantime, Crowley has the Darkness to try to coerce to his side. He has her watching Hitler speeches. Pretty effective. Hitler was a tyrant and evil, but he did give a good speech - it's where his success came from really. You gotta be careful around skilled orators, you guys.

But this seen is pretty cool - we find out that, according to the Darkness, God "tricked" her into being trapped. The thing that strikes me about this scene though is that Crowley treats the Darkness like a child, because the Darkness is in a child's body... but, I don't think she IS a child. I think she might be a little behind on the times, but she's a fully matured and sentient creature who has chosen to experience a "human" life from beginning to end... or, a proxy thereof, anyway.

Rowena's next. She's trying sell the Mega Coven again...it's going down just as well as last time, only this time she reveals that she has the Book of the Damned and the Codex and is super powerful. That goes over better...only, then it's demon attack time, and her prospective coven sisters get killed and/or separated and probably slightly traumatized.

Back to Sam and Dean and Cas... Dean tries calling Crowley. It goes to voicemail... I'm pretty sure that friendship is dead, Dean.

Sam says that there's been no reports about Cas's "crappy" car - and Cas takes offense to Sam caling his car "crappy" and I am in love. Seriously.. that's the cutest.

Of course, then Cas goes and has a seizure and that's not cute at all. Seizures are fuckin' scary, guys - I don't know if you've ever had friends/family that have had them, but I find witnessing them terrifying.

Anywayyyyyyyyy.... we go to commercial, and then come back and Cas is OKAY! Yay!

I like the camera angle of Sam waking him up. Oh hey, I should mention that Jensen directed this episode! Pretty snazzy. I don't know enough about directing to really say anything, but it looked cool to me!

I love Dean trying to get answers to the standard "where are you and what date is it?" post seizure questions. "Earth. Several billion years from the beginning."  Awesome. I love how angels measure things "from the beginning" - rather than from whatever arbitrary day human religions measure from.

i also thought Cas' analogy of being a tomator in a blender that's making tomato salsa was adorable. As were the faces that Sam and Dean made at each other while he said it. Adorable.. all of them are adorable. So many adorable.

Cas mentions hearing voices and Sam and Dean freak out, before Cas realizes that it's "angel radio" - the angels are looking for Cas and "the perp" which Cas informs them is short for "perpatrator" and means Metatron. I spelt perpetrator wrong, and my spell check doesn't work, and I don't know what spelling is right - so forgive me.

Sam finds a news article for what happened in Denver (timelining tidbit: this means that it's been at least a day since the start of the episode, if we believe that these events are happening simulataneously in the order in which they are shown.) and then it's OFF TO DENVER.

But first, let's check in with the Darkness.

The Darkness is talking to herself in the mirror. It's interesting, because I was sure the darkness was fully adult and herself, but she talks to herself as though she is two people "you are what I am" or whatever... but it does indicate that Amara is a portion of the Darkness that has been sent into the world in order to experience it first hand. Whether that means she is a child or not is a tricky question.

What's super interesting about this conversation - and makes me very interested in the Darkness - is the fact that when she discusses what she's seen with herself, she discusses it like she's impressed, or... admiring... of what God created after she was locked away. She tells herself that it doesn't change what he did to her - but man, that adds such a cool dynamic to The Darkness, which we'll explore a little more later.

Then we get an interesting sort of cut away where an angel and a demon meet up in a bar for a drink - they're both "grunts" and both complaining about the alarms and the fact that things are going to shit. It's an awesome scene. Much like Good Omens, there's just something fanscinating abotu angels and demons hanging out together on quasi-friendly terms. They both mention that if the higher-ups aren't doing anything than it might be up to "the people", "not actually people", "you know what I mean." And, yes, that certainly sets up and interesting side-plot for the season!

Meanwhile, Sam and Dean are off interviewing a witch. I love this scene because it's so rare for Sam and Dean to just be like "listen, we know you're a witch, and we need you to scry for us" and just completely drop the act in a situation where they're not going in for the kill. I also loved Dean's wink when he responds to the witches statement of "I have rights" with "and I have a fake badge" - it's nice to see Dean again after a  year of having be so much darker than usual.

Back to Crowley and the Darkness. Crowley tries to give her little kid gifts, but Darkness perfers the more advanced reading given to her by her nanny... but then, she does EAT her nanny after declaring that she's hungry.

When we get back from commercial, it's to join Rowena who is getting into a cab, only to be thrawted by INDISGUISE!Dean...and, man, what a disguise. I love it! Oh man...who'd have ever thought we'd see Dean in that get-up. It certainly was a smart move. Still, Sam has to come to the rescue with the cuffs, as Rowena clues in and attacks Dean pretty swiftly.

Back at the Bunker, Cas is trying to follow instructures for looking up his car... instead he ends up with an asian fetish site pop-up ad.... I guess he's on Dean's computer? Anyway...a growing part of me kinda wishes they would cool it with the asian fetish gag... it was all fun and games when it was a little more subtle, and when they actually HAD asian people on the show, but I don't think it's all that cool when the only asians you see on the show are fetishized. But, maybe that's me being a (drunken) spoilsport.

Anyway, Cas has another weird vision thing - I think the spell is compelling him to kill Crowley, since he failed...

Back to Crowley and The Darkness.  Amara has been eating demons left and right. Crowley makes sure that all the meatsuits left are dead so that they don't have soulless humans running around... it's a very interesting consideration.

What's even more interesting is Amara's reaction to all that she's learned. She believes that God screwed up creation because there is so much suffering in the world. Crowley, not getting the vibe of the conversation, muses that together they could turn all of creation evil. Amara balks at this, asking Crowley if he'd be happy with that in a manner that suggests that he shouldn't be. Crowley backs off, but not completely, only conceding that it's true that the fun is watching humans succumb to evil after being good. Amara is not impressed... and I think this is where Crowley has gone horrible wrong. He assumed Amara was a child and he assumed Amara's power was EVIL... these are assumptions based simply on the fact that she is not God and that God locked her away.

Back to Rowena, who is locked up in the Bunker's dungeon... I really think they should stop bringing baddies to their secret lair... they're going to remember where it is!!!

Anyway, Rowena doesn't have the Book of the Damned, but the Winchester's are able to recover the codex... whether that means anything remains to be seen.

Sam goes off to get Cas for Rowena to cure, and Dean tries to renegotiate the deal - of course, he makes the mistake of renegotiating before Rowena has fulfilled her end of hte current deal...so, naturally, that renegotiation doesn't go well. Rowena also pokes at Dean's growing guilt over having been a part of letting the Darkness into the world. Sam interrupts all thoughts of that though when he runs in and reports that Cas is missing.

Then it's a mad rush to find Cas...by tracking his GPS.

Back to Crowley, who has made another demon Amara's new nanny. He's cute. Unfortunately, Crowley tells the new nanny to let Amara know that they're cutting back on her food... so long, cute demon.

Sam and Dean track Cas to Topeka, while Rowena pokes at their buttons from the back seat. She tells on Sam to Dean - and reveals that Sam made a deal with her to get rid of the mark in exchange for killing Crowley. Dean is pissed off about Sam keeping a secret. Rowena suggests that it's Sam's fault that Cas is bespelled, but Dean denies that and reiterates that he's just made about the secret.

Meanwhile, Cas is stalking a random girl. Why? Who knows. Maybe she looks vaguely like Crowley?

Dean and Sam split up to find Cas, with Sam towing Rowena along in cuffs.

Cas is chasing the girl and corners her in a warehouse. Dean walks by an alley and hits on a girl, and the camera angle and shot is adorable and dorky, and I do approve of this directing. He then hears the sounds of Cas stalking that random girl and jumps in for the rescue - he saves the girl, but then Cas starts to beat the shit out of Dean... ouch.

Luckily, Sam jumps in with Rowena held at gun point (another very cool camera angle) and Rowena lifts the spell, sending Cas into another seizure, but he seems to recover and be unspelled. This, of course, is Rowena's cue to stage a daring escape - which she does pretty awesomely.  Sucks to be the Winchesters.

Back at he Bunker for Beers. Sam mother hens Dean, Dean replies "thanks, mom" - it's adorable. Cas apologizes and Dean tells him there's no need. Dean insists that he "had it coming" - which, awww... Dean. A beating while bespelled doesn't mean that you deserve a beating while bespelled.... that's not healthy.

Still, it's nice to know that the three boys are all square with each other.

Then it's back to Crowley, who finds the new nanny quite dead. Awww, poor cute nanny. Amara is now a teenager.... and hangry teenager.

And there you have it!

I'm still super invested in learning more about Amara/The Darkness... and I'm thrilled with how Sam and Dean's relationship have been so far. I'm curious about this set-up between the two grunts of Heaven and Hell... and Cas' complete lack of faith in God, juxtaposed against Sam's renewed faith, is fascinating to me. (Well, really, Cas' completely lack of faith is fascinating on it's own, but I also like the dynamic of Sam thinking that God might be communicating with him too.) It's good to see Dean getting back to his old self. Dean's always going to have guilt about every single thing he's ever done, but it's nice to know that he's back to being a fundamentally good person.


Next week is definitely a MOTW, but given the hype I've heard around the episode, I am very much looking forward to it! Plus, I love Robbie Thompson episodes. He's my new fave.


FYI: For those wondering - I still have to get my hands on the Supernatural S10 DVDs before I can start that rewatch (and update the clothing catalogue). I'll look into it soon, I swear. Sometimes my sister gives them to me for my birthday, so I didn't want to buy them before I saw her. I just saw her this weekend and she gave me something else instead - so now I know that I can go ahead and buy the DVDs myself when I get my next paycheck.

Comments

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thursdaysisters
Oct. 22nd, 2015 03:25 pm (UTC)
YES I love that Dean is less angsty, even when he could get into a grudge match with Sam or Cas he pulls back and realizes it won't solve anything :D
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2015 05:33 pm (UTC)
Yes! It's great. He expresses the fact that he is mad that Sam didn't tell him about the deal, recognizes that Sam realizes that he should have told him, and then accepts it and moves on. Yay!
supernutjapan
Oct. 22nd, 2015 03:26 pm (UTC)
You are definitely drunk, my dear. I loved seeing all the "adorable"s all over the place :D

Meanwhile, Cas is stalking a random girl. Why? Who knows. Maybe she looks vaguely like Crowley?

LOL! Right? WHY THAT GIRL? That's really strange.

I think Dean said he had it coming because he remembers half beating Cas to death last season. He was under the influence too, but he still feels bad about it, just as Cas feels bad about hurting Dean under the influence.

I don't know if the Darkness will end up becoming a positive force. It didn't sound that way from the way Amara talked about how she didn't care about good or bad, just the bigger picture. I hope she sees the good in God's creation and changes though.

It was pretty much an informative ep with not much of a story. I loved the brother moments at the beginning and end. The rest was OK. Looking forward to next week. It better be good!
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2015 05:39 pm (UTC)
Everyone is adorable. :P

Yes, that's what I meant by Dean accepting a "beating while bespelled" as payback. Dean figures that he beat up Cas while under the influence of the Mark, so Cas gets to beat him while under the influence of a spell. Not exactly healthy.

I don't think the Darkness is necessarily positive - I don't think I said that, did I? I can't remember, due to the drinking. I think they're setting her up to be a great grey-villain... someone either neutral or chaotic neutral (if we're going to be using DnD alighments). The boys are chaotic good. Crowley is lawful evil for the most part. Cas was lawful good and then quickly became chaotic good. Anyway, I'm getting off topic - it should be super interesting!

I agree about it being an info dump with very little plot. Despite that, I thought Jensen did a great job with it and trying to keep the excitement up. :)
elvit
Oct. 22nd, 2015 08:21 pm (UTC)
someone either neutral or chaotic neutral (if we're going to be using DnD alighments). The boys are chaotic good. Crowley is lawful evil for the most part. Cas was lawful good and then quickly became chaotic good. Anyway, I'm getting off topic - it should be super interesting!

And here I remembered about Death. What is he according this scale? Btw everyone I know seems to think that Death moved to some resort. Now he is sitting by the sea with a cocktail with a little umbrella. ^_^
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2015 09:44 pm (UTC)
Death would be lawful neutral. He doesn't care about good or evil, just the natural order.

And yeah, Death is totally just off on vacation, staying away from all those chaotic aligned people.
elvit
Oct. 22nd, 2015 09:49 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
supernutjapan
Oct. 23rd, 2015 08:41 am (UTC)
<3 I did love that Sam was looking good again this ep. I hate when he looks pale and sick.

I'm glad they addressed Dean's feelings of guilt in that scene - as well as in the scene with Rowena. We had a whole bunch of guilt on the part of Sam in ep 1, 2 so it's about time. I understand his feeling of wanting to be beat up in a sense, feeling the pain on the outside that he feels on the inside for hurting Cas and others. I don't know if I'd call it unhealthy. It's quite a natural reaction.

Jensen did a very good job with what he had<3
hells_half_acre
Oct. 24th, 2015 06:32 am (UTC)
Well, natural reactions can be unhealthy too. Like, when faced with many problems, I lie in bed all day and do nothing - which causes my problems to increase not decrease. Natural reaction, but not exactly healthy.

But, yeah, it's very Dean.

I'm also glad that Sam's looking better. :)
shadowsong26
Oct. 22nd, 2015 11:21 pm (UTC)
I don’t actually have a lot to say about this episode—like you said, it’s mostly resolving last season’s plotlines, etc. Of course, given that this is me, I’ll probably go on for at least a page anyway…

Totally agreed on Mega Coven being a silly name…IDK what Rowena was thinking there.

Also totally agreed on that red dress being unfairly pretty, and her being unfairly pretty in it.

I’m not sure how I feel about the link, either—I think I mentioned in the season premiere, it felt a lot like the Sam and Lucifer half of Free to Be You and Me, but at this point I’m not totally sure where it’s going…I suppose we shall see.

And agreed on the contrast between Sam’s renewed faith and Cas’s utter lack of it. And Cas’s faithlessness in general.

Yeah, I think all of Crowley’s Fergus bits are dead again. Which is a shame, because it means the Gavin plot thread is less and less likely to be tied off…sigh. On the other hand, I’m mostly glad to have Crowley back to himself …it’s weird, I don’t actually enjoy him very much as an Arc Villain, like in S6/S8, but I’m not sure I like him as a straight-up ally, either? I think the middle ground we had with him in like S7 was probably best. Hopefully we’re going back to that sort of not-our-friend-but-not-our-problem-this-year-enemy-ish-ally-ish thing again. I like Crowley best when he’s there.

Agreed about the Darkness and Crowley’s interactions.

Sam’s sass levels in the quieter scenes in the TFW half of this episode were awesome. Crappy car comment and snarking at Dean over Crowley and…I love it when Sam’s a bit of a wiseass. And the rest of that scene was adorable, too, except for the seizure, totally agreed…

The mirror conversation was definitely interesting, though I’m not quite sure how to fully dissect it without knowing where it’s leading. I’m still mostly on the ‘blue-and-orange morality like a traditional Fae’ side of things for interpreting Amara/the Darkness’ motives/morality, but we’ll see where this goes. Especially with that point about ‘destiny’ and not knowing what that is…

I LOVED the angel + demon drinking in a bar together. Cannot wait to see where that’s going.

Totally agreed on how nice it is to have Dean back to himself. And Sam and Dean dropping the pretense was awesome, agreed.

Crowley seems to have developed a habit of picking badass allies and woefully underestimating his ability to keep them on a leash…it goes all the way back to S6. Possibly even S5, though he lucked out on his alliance with Sam/Dean/Bobby/etc. not biting him in the ass that one time…but, like, there’s Cas and Raphael, and he tried it with Dick Roman, who wasn’t interested, made the play for Demon Dean starting in late S9, and now he’s here with Amara…you’d think he’d learn…

With you on Dean’s disguise being awesome.

I have no idea what’s going on with Cas after he unspools again here…or why he targeted that girl…oh, well, freaky visions for everyone this season, it seems?

Agreed on them needing to stop bringing villains home…and, I mean, I know that’s not why he did it, but Sam was super-smart to keep her off site all last season. Ah, well.

I actually like how the reveal of Sam’s deal with Rowena played out…although I'm not sure why that was still a secret at this point...maybe just that there were many bigger fish to fry and then Sam just plain didn’t think about it, because, as far as he knows, Dean’s back on board with the killing-Crowley deal. I think he even said something like 'I was gonna tell you then got distracted then it didn't feel important anymore...' But, yes, I like how he and Dean react to it--acknowledging the upset and then moving on. They seem to actually be paying attention to/no longer need the sparkly-pink COMMUNICATE DAMMIT bricks! Yay!

Except the secrets and lies thing, which they haven’t stopped doing yet…

The whole bit with Rowena and the gun and then her escape was beautiful and awesome.

And agreed on the ‘thanks mom’ scene being many levels of adorable.

So, yes! Like I said, I managed to talk a lot for an episode I didn’t think I had a lot to say about…basically, agreed about how this episode seems to be setting the stage for the rest of the season. I am hopeful for where we’re going next!
hells_half_acre
Oct. 24th, 2015 06:43 am (UTC)
Which is a shame, because it means the Gavin plot thread is less and less likely to be tied off…sigh. On the other hand, I’m mostly glad to have Crowley back to himself …it’s weird, I don’t actually enjoy him very much as an Arc Villain, like in S6/S8, but I’m not sure I like him as a straight-up ally, either? I think the middle ground we had with him in like S7 was probably best.

I think I'm right with you there - I haven't been able to quite put my finger on it, but I do prefer when he's in that middle ground, where he's the villain, and maybe helpful sometimes, but definitely playing his own game too.

I’m still mostly on the ‘blue-and-orange morality like a traditional Fae’ side of things for interpreting Amara/the Darkness’ motives/morality, but we’ll see where this goes. Especially with that point about ‘destiny’ and not knowing what that is…

Interesting and completely true. It's hard to know what to make of her when we have such little information - still, I like the teases they've given us. They're doing a good job of making us want more.

Crowley seems to have developed a habit of picking badass allies and woefully underestimating his ability to keep them on a leash…it goes all the way back to S6.

So true... and very odd. In S5, it worked for him because he WASN'T going after the most powerful, which would have been Lucifer, instead he wooed their enemies and watched them take out the higher power, leaving the throne open for him. I guess since S6, he's been trying to figure out how to keep that power - and obviously, is attempts of leashing everything more powerful than him have not been working AT ALL. Like you said, you'd think he'd learn.

I actually like how the reveal of Sam’s deal with Rowena played out…although I'm not sure why that was still a secret at this point...maybe just that there were many bigger fish to fry and then Sam just plain didn’t think about it, because, as far as he knows, Dean’s back on board with the killing-Crowley deal.

Well, in all fairness to Sam, he could have only told him after the Mark was gone, but then the darkness was unleashed, and then they were stuck in a hospital, and then they were separated and Sam was secretly dying... and then they were reunited for the hour drive back to the Bunker, where they found Cas who was not-secretly dying... so... I mean, when did he have a chance really? :P

But yes, nice that we don't have to throw bricks that them - sparkly though they may be.

:)
khek
Oct. 22nd, 2015 11:56 pm (UTC)
I loved this episode. I loved your review too. I also had a little too much to drink before watching, so I need to watch it again before I can make any judgement calls.

Everyone looked really good though! (Well, except for Castiel. And that was mostly the red eyes, which give me the heebie-jeebies.)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 24th, 2015 06:30 am (UTC)
Yeah, I hate eye-stuff. Just, leave people's eyes alone show! Jeez.

glad you liked the episode and my review...and whatever booze you were drinking. ;)
alessandra_c
Oct. 24th, 2015 04:17 am (UTC)
Good Omens Scene!!!1
I still have to physically contain my mirth at the fact that "Aziraphale" and "Crawley" have basically been written into spn cannon. Makes me wonder how long those two have known each other, because at the end the demon buys them both another round of drinks, which makes me think they've been friends for a while.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 24th, 2015 06:29 am (UTC)
Re: Good Omens Scene!!!1
Yes! Even though they totally did the stand-off when they first entered. It's hilarious. I wonder if they pick different vessels each time and that's just how they great each other? I don't even know.

But I love it - I want more!
borgmama1of5
Oct. 24th, 2015 01:44 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed your review more than the actual episode, I think...Kept waiting for something exciting to happen... :/
hells_half_acre
Oct. 24th, 2015 05:58 pm (UTC)
Haha, yeah, same here...it really was just all set-up or wrap-up and besides a few good character moments (some of wish were only visual and may have been Jensen's doing) there really wasn't much in the episode.

Ah well, next week we're into a novelty episode, so that should be interesting one way or another all on it's own.
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