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SEASON 11! Holy crow! I just wrote "SEASON !!" by accident and then corrected it, but I think it applies too.

Man, I can't believe when I started watching this show back in the summer of '08, one of the appeals of it was that I thought it was ending in two years. What a fool I was... this is just like that time I was hestitant to get into the MCU fandom, because I didn't want them to do Civil War, and all of my online friends were like "They AREN'T going to do Civil War! Don't be ridiculous." So, I was like "Really? Oh, okay, guess I'll invest all my emotions in these characters then with the knowledge that I won't have to survive Civil War..."

On of these days I'll learn my lesson.

Anyway, off topic already, let's get this road on the show...

Because of the new job and earlier mornings, I've started to take short reminder notes while I watch the episode in the hopes that these reviews won't take me as long to type up.

That being said, DISCLAIMER: I still only watch this show once, without breaks, while drinking heavily... so, while my notes will help me (hopefully) remember things in the right order, all quotes will be paraphrased and i might not remember some things exactly. Please only correct me if I ask you to or if it's a major plot or character point that I've got completely assbackwards.

Okay, now, really SHOW ON ROAD...

Run through the jungle was a good tune to play for the opening! Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.... the opening was pretty damn brief, all things considered, and I think it's because this is another reset season. Mark o' Cain is kaputt, rather than a signify for the Darkness (which we'll get to) and we have to know that Rowena is on the loose (and I guess so is Metatron) and in terms of the brothers this is hard-reset.

The opening was really neat and creepy with the very little sound and Dean in isolation in the cloud of "darkness"... and then Sam waking up alone, and remembering how Dean disappeared... and yeah, that's gotta be all kinds of disconcerting. You just risked the entire world to save your brother and then he disappears? I gotta tell you, I'd be swearing a lot more... like A LOT MORE. Basically, all there would be would be me in that field using every single curse word I know until I needed a drink of water.

Sam, thankfully, eventually finds Dean in a field of pretty flowers... because Dean is pretty, and that's where he belongs.

We find out that Dean thinks the Darkness "saved" him. She... SHE... thanked him for freeing her. She apparetly doesn't know who Death is which is pretty cool and fits with my theology of the show (God was first, then Death, but in the end it will be Death last.... because I swear if Supernatural keeps Death "dead", I'll be super pissed off... YOU CAN'T KILL DEATH! Geezus. Apparently, despite my RL atheism, I've got really strong opinions about the theology of the Supernatural universe.)

 Anywho... I was really interested in the fact that they made the Darkness a woman... is it weird that I'm actually hoping she's a good guy? Maybe it's my love of certain pre-christian religions, but I kind of think it'd be cool if God was the one who was the asshole for locking her up. Most likely though, God will stay a good guy (which is good in a different way, because I like Chuck and would like him to show up again) and the Darkness will indeed be evil. She's not off to a great start, I gotta say, with this shorter shelf-life form of the Croatoan virus.

I loved Dean's speech about taking her out as he stomps back to the car, and then just before he gets in, he sees the wheel still in the hole, and is like "Just going to let me get in the car?!" and Sam is perfectly honest about not wanting to interrupt Dean's speech because he was "on a roll." Adorable boys are self-aware. :)

Cut to Cas! CAS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh no! Cas is hold up in an empty chicken coop, still under the attack-dog spell. It's really cool that they had that react differently with an angel. I like that Cas can, to a degree, "survive" it.

We discover that Crowley smoked out before Cas could kill him. Which is good for Crowley!

Back to Sam and Dean!

Sam and Dean come across a massacre, but there's a deputy there that doesn't seem infected! Yay! And she's pretty awesome. I liked them working some levity into the scene with the "show me some skin" order. What I REALLY liked though was that, once again, Dean and Sam both treat her with respect the whole time they're talking to her. Even when Dean finds out that she's only been on the job for three weeks, he still treats her like she's an equal partner in the fight against the unknown enemy.

I liked the introduction about what the theme of this season is going to be - with the deputy mentioning in dismay over killing the road-crew that "the job is supposed to be about saving people" and Dean is like "it sounds better on paper" - because what is the price of saving people? Do you have to kill to save? If you do, can you still count yourself as saving people or not? I think those are going to be the themes of the season, and I'm excited for it.

Then they go to the hospital to stitch up the deputy and find it ransacked. Dean takes the deputy to get stitches while Sam scopes out the place...  and finds an infected person ramming themselves at a locked door, while a baby cries form inside.

And I'm not going to lie, I was sitting there yelling SAM! SHOOT THE GUY AND SAVE THE BABY! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!!?

But, apparenly Sam was just confident in the door's ability to save the baby and he was running a science experiment to see if there was a shelf-life for the virus or something.

Anyway, CROWLEY!

Crowley possesses a woman and is awesome. And then he goes inside the woman's house to kill people so he can make a call and discovers that the woman's husband set up a sex party! So, yeah, priorities change.

I wonder why Crowley couldn't snap down to hell or whatever from the woman's meat-suit though - that's odd. I mean, yay for sex party, but it'd have been cool to have Crowley's sudden lack of powers explained. Unless they were?

Back to Sam and Dean at the hospital. The rabid dude trying to get into the janitor closet croaks, so Sam goes and knocks, and finds a dude with a new born! Awww! It's SUPER SAD, YOU GUYS. SO SAD!  Once again, though, I'm kind of stoked that they had it be a father and his newborn rather than a mother... I just think it was a nice change-up, and maybe it was to make him a bigger looking threat later on, but STILL... it was nice to see a dad and a baby being the "damsels in distress."

Back to Cas! Cas is praying for help and it's SUPER SAD, YOU GUYS!

No, wait, the hospital is SUPER SAD, YOU GUYS! The guy lost his wife in childbirth and now he's INFECTED and it's SO SAD ALL THE TIME. OH MAN!

And then he makes them promise to look after the baby, and Dean is like "Done! I will look after that baby like CRAZY. THAT BABY IS NOW MINE FOREVER!" and the dude is like, "Not you, crazy drifter guy - the deputy that I actually know." And the deputy is like "uh, you might be better off with the crazy drifter dude, but yeah, okay, I guess?" Only, they said all that with their eyes.

And then we get a female and a baby being the ones being rescued, so I'm slightly LESS enthused about it, but still, I like that she's not instant-mother, she's just like "I am crazy awkward about this" and Dean is like "I know right? I'd have been so much better. I'm WAY more maternal than you are, geez." Only, they said that all with their eyes, of course.

Anyhoo, Cas calls Dean and tells him to relay a message to Sam - if that's not shipping fodder, I don't know what is. Why don't you just call Sam, Cas? Is it because you wanted to hear Dean's voice before you potentially disappeared to Heaven to be locked away for all eternity? Awwww..... I don't even ship you, really, but still.

I loved Dean telling Cas to talk to him about the Darkness though, and Cas being like "why would I talk about the Darkness?" Like, this is some social cue that Cas is missing. But really, I loved the extra layer of Cas being like "What the shit do you mean the Darkness is free?! SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT" but, you know, with his eyes.

BACK TO CROWLEY...

And the awww... murdered sex party. That's not a fun end to the evening... a fun end to the evening would be post-coital sleepy-times.

But hey, ASIAN DUDE! Crowley's Asian minion is officially my favourite minion. Seriously, there needs to be more asians on TV - the demographics of shows don't make any goddamn sense without them.

I love that Asian minion is questioning why Crowley waited until AFTER the orgy to call for help... shouldn't that just cement Crowley as a demon? I don't see the problem.

BACK TO SAM AND DEAN...

And we have a brother fight over METHODS! YES! This is the kind of brother fights that I want to see - the S1-S3 (and a little of S5) fights, where they are on the same page, but they just disagree on how they should go about things. You don't always have to have brother conflict be about epic secrets and betrayals, they can actually just be a "I think we should take route 9 to Albequerque", "well stuff-it, because I think we should take route 4!" Only, you know, that's a metaphor for how many people they should be killing on their way to Albequerque.

In Sam's opinion, they've forgotten how to "do this" - they just keep repeating crap. He thinks they have the hunting things done, but "that's only half of the bumper sticker, man" - and I don't know if I love how self-aware they are or dislike it, but I have to admit that it tickles me that Sam KNOWS that the line is "saving people, hunting things" - it's jumped from something repeated in fandom to something repeated in their lives, even though I'm not ENTIRELY sure we've seen evidence of that. But, I suppose between the Supernatural books and the musical and the parallel universe TV show, Sam knows their brand.

Anyway, I love the fact that Sam presses that "saving people means ALL of the people" not just one kid and not just each other. In Sam's opinion, Sam and Dean have to change their habits and their behaviour moving forward - they have to get to a point where Sam isn't willing to save Dean above all else in the whole world (they were at that point back in S5, when Dean allowed Sam to die/be-locked-away-and-tortured-forever in order to save the world, so it's not like it's impossible.)

And I love how Dean actually listens to him and then asks "what are you thinking?" and LISTENS to Sam's idea for getting out of the hospital and possibly making both of them happy.

I love Sam's line of how Dean has to "do what you do, but you gotta let me do what I do."
- Dean single-mindedly saves a selected person or people - that's what he does. He narrows his focus down to the civilians or Sam, and says "I am going to save THIS PERSON if it's the last thing I do" and Dean is GOOD at that. What does Sam do? Sam plays a game that's both more self-sacrificial and also more optimistic than that - Sam tries to save everyone, which sometimes includes the monsters. Sam, as it turns out, also plays bait.

And of course, Sam does what he does and ends up self-sacrificing... getting infected when he (we're guessing) comes into contact with the blood of an infected person after killing her in self-defence (after accidentally locking himself in a closet with her - smooth move, Sammy.)

Dean, meanwhile, is taking the slow route out of the hospital. The baby's father pops up again and momentarily knocks Dean down, but the deputy has him at gunpoint. I LOVE the shot here when Dean pops back up beside the deputy with the shot-gun. It was a neat shot.

The baby's father just wants to let us know that the baby's name is Amara, though. I mean, that's important... then he dies, and it's SUPER SAD, YOU GUYS!

I actually thought he said "Mara" which I think is a cooler name, but WHATEVER... I'm sure "Amara" means something cool... like.... "THE DARKNESS", but I'm totally getting ahead of myself.

Crowley returns to his body and the demons are like "hell is panicking!" because apparently "the cage" made noise! THE CAGE. Wow, that's still a thing... I wonder if we'll eventually see Michael and/or Lucifer again?! Probably not, this is probably just a tease.

Meanwhile, back to Cas - Cas thinks the angels are going to help him, but instead they take him to an abandoned building and string him up for apparent torture or something?!?! GUYS, THIS IS SO SAD! There's just something so depressing about an ANGEL being refused help from heaven... awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww... poor Cas. He needs a counter spell and a hug, not torture!

Also, I guess this episode gave us weird confirmation that Cas is once again an outlaw from Heaven and apparently in exile? It didn't seem like there were angels actively after him last season, so maybe they were just content for him to be in exile unless he specifically pointed a neon sign to himself and said "I'm here, you could come torture me if you like?" Anyway, I guess we'll get confirmation as to his status as the episodes continue.

Dean and the deputy stop at a rest area for a diaper change. Sam calls and Dean tells him how the outbreak seems to be isolated in Superior NE, and then Sam is like "cool, well, all's well here, and I'm totally going to find a cure"... but he's actually INFECTED! Noooooooooooooooo......

And Dean is like "cool, and then we're totally going to kill the Darkness" and then he hangs up and remembers how the Darkness told him that Dean would always help her, not hurt her, because they're "bonded" and OH NO, brother secrets!

But meanwhile, in the changing room, THE DARKNESS IS THE BABY! WHAT?!?!?!

Needless to say, I'm intrigued about what will happen next week!!


Okay, so, verdict is: that was way EASIER to type up with short notes to remind myself of scene order, but still took an hour - so, sucks to me when it comes to getting sleep on Wednesdays this year!

As usual, please comment with thoughts or anything that I missed or glossed over that you desperately want to talk about!

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mirokulove89
Oct. 8th, 2015 07:56 am (UTC)
The guy makes them promise to look after the baby, and Dean is like "Done! I will look after that baby like CRAZY. THAT BABY IS NOW MINE FOREVER!" and the dude is like, "Not you, crazy drifter guy" --Omg I laughed so hard, this is hilarious. God, this episode was so good and sad and awesome and interesting. I'm super stoked to see what's gonna happen with the Darkness and the rest of the season.

Anyway...as far as Crowley's powers not working, I think that was probably because of Rowena's immobility spell? His minion demons mentioned that they were working on undoing it. Also, I'm pretty sure Cas is an outlaw from Heaven because he broke in to set Metatron free last season and then pretty quickly lost him again. And now he's loose with the demon tablet and could cause a lot of havoc. My money's on that being the reason the angels are pissed, lol.

As usual, your reviews are the cherry on top of my Wednesday nights 'cause they're so positive and funny and wonderful, but I do have to disagree with you on one tiny point here. I think when Sam was saying that he and Dean needed to change, I don't believe he was saying that they should stop saving each other above the rest of the world. Because his very next line was literally something like, "I'd make the same choice again in a second. I'd do it without question." So, that really doesn't sound like he's planning on changing that. I think he was probably referring to the way they "shoot first and ask questions later", because he brought that up right afterwards. I think he was saying they should change in the sense that they should focus more on the "saving people" aspect of what they do as opposed to the "hunting things" part. Not that he and Dean should stop saving each other.

But, who knows? I could be wrong. That's just what I thought they were saying. You know...with their eyes ;)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 8th, 2015 04:17 pm (UTC)
Perhaps you are right about the immobility spell. It'd be weird if it affected him in different bodies, but who knows how magic works, I guess.

And yeah, I figured that Castiel was in trouble for breaking Metatron out - I just wondered if there was official word on whether he'd been exiled or if he was being sought by angel-police this whole time or what... but, I guess we'll find out.

As for what Sam meant when he said he and Dean needed to change... I'm not sure. I think by saying "I'd do it again without question" - he was just admitting that he needs to change too and that these behaviours are as ingrained in him as they are in Dean... but I could be wrong! I think he ALSO meant that they needed to stop shooting first, but that he meant the other thing too...

Anyway, time will tell! It's obviously going to be a major theme this season, so I'm sure Sam will clarify his stance....with his eyes. ;)
elvit
Oct. 8th, 2015 10:26 am (UTC)
> I was really interested in the fact that they made the Darkness a woman... is it weird that I'm actually hoping she's a good guy?

I hope so too! But I don't think it'll happen either. But I guess we'll have our share of this feeling... Like Eve. I still have some lingering feeling that she was a good guy, she cared about her children/monsters and I honestly think she would have offered something good to the brothers. So the Winchesters will of course kill the Darkness, but she might be good deep inside. ))


And yes it bothers me that Sam after his lecture on changing lies to Dean. That's nothing new here! It would be more unexpected if he told the truth! So... well, a bit boring. Not good for ratings and plot.

hells_half_acre
Oct. 8th, 2015 04:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I liked what they did with Eve - though, I know a ton of people hated the fact that she ended up being a red herring rather than the big-bad that season. Still though, I liked that she was a "grey villain" at best - where yes, she caused chaos and death, but she did it in an effort to stop the actual big-bad.

Anyway, it'd be neat to see if the Darkness was as nuanced and interesting.

Maybe this time will be different and Sam will realize that lying is part of the problem, and he'll come clean? Hahaha... unlikely. Oh Winchesters.
elvit
Oct. 9th, 2015 08:28 am (UTC)
> it'd be neat to see if the Darkness was as nuanced and interesting.

Oh yeah, at least her gratitude to Dean inrigues. I like her and hope we'll get some well shaped arch with her or something.

Yeah... but we love them nevertheless. :)




Edited at 2015-10-09 08:29 am (UTC)
borgmama1of5
Oct. 8th, 2015 12:50 pm (UTC)
Ah, boys...Sam gives big lecture on changing their ways and what are they doing next? Hiding from each other about being infected/being the Darkness' BFF...boys...

This ep certainly put lots of puzzles pieces out!

I thought the opening--Dean in Darkness, repeat of Impala being covered, Sam alone, another repeat, Dean unconscious in flowers--felt very different than the typical SPN episode...more like a psychological mystery than an actual 'what monster is this' mystery opening...Does that make any sense?

Also amused by the fact that the commercials for 'The Originals' and 'The Vampire Diaries' plus several movie commercials all referenced to 'the Darkness' coming. Guess SPN started a trend...

As always, looking forward to your ep reviews this season!
hells_half_acre
Oct. 8th, 2015 04:22 pm (UTC)
Yes, the opening had a really neat and kind of out-of-body feel to it with the way they did the repeats. It was cool!

I skipped the commercials, so I missed the references to Darkness - that's funny!

Glad you liked the review!
lon_dubh
Oct. 8th, 2015 02:14 pm (UTC)
So... So .... So what if (SPOILERS of course) those infected weren't there to protect/be a diversion/help the Darkness, but to KILL her. Some weird defense mechanism to keep the Darkness from spreading/growing into her power? it would explain why the illness only affected that one town.

As always your reviews are the highlights of my Supernatural mornings after.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 8th, 2015 04:24 pm (UTC)
INTERESTING.... if that's the case, then next episode whatever town the Deputy is traveling to might be infected next. But it would be a really neat sort of "immune system" for the world... like humans suddenly become white blood cells that attack the infection, but can also attack healthy cells by accident.

Very cool theory.

Glad you liked the review!!
supernutjapan
Oct. 8th, 2015 02:24 pm (UTC)
Sam, thankfully, eventually finds Dean in a field of pretty flowers... because Dean is pretty, and that's where he belongs.

HEEEE!!! LOL!!!

YOU CAN'T KILL DEATH! Geezus.
I agree. How can anyone die without death? Too weird.

I kind of think it'd be cool if God was the one who was the asshole for locking her up.
YES! You know, I am harboring a suspicion that the sickness wasn't the work of the Darkness but of Rowena - which is what Dean saves her from by getting her out of the hospital with the Deputy. You never know <3 She did say she likes it here because it's peaceful - what kind of baddy says that?


OH YOU are on the roll *tears from laughing*

And of course, Sam does what he does and ends up self-sacrificing
Oh GAWWWWD. I thought you wanted to change? Maybe this is what you have to change FIRST? *headdesk* I'm sorry that speech and his subsequent actions were just crazy to me. Too emotional and not very logical.

That line that you love "Let me do what I do best" I dislike it because it usually means Sam is going to do something stupid. Like you know, try to save the whole world and kill himself trying.

I'm sure "Amara" means something cool... like.... "THE DARKNESS", but I'm totally getting ahead of myself.
HEEE!!! Love that :DDD I wish it did. I just found out it's the name of a beetle. Who names a girl after a beetle? Even a Sun Beetle that is used as a weed control agent? There must be some meaning to it I guess?

Wait... Mara is a demon's name and it comes from the word "to die." Are you sure you weren't right? Who said it was Amara?

Loved your review!










hells_half_acre
Oct. 8th, 2015 04:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, it'd definitely be cool if the Darkness was more of a grey area when it came to being an enemy. I guess we might find out more about the "infection" next week - so time will tell on that one!

I think Sam's actions matched up with his speech, right up until the part where he lied to Dean on the phone and didn't tell him that he was infected and possibly dying.

According to SuperWiki, it's Amara, and SuperWiki is usually right about these things, because they double check with the writers/producers on spelling. I did read somewhere last night that Amara in some language means "immortal" - so, that's kind of cool. It might just also be the name of a beetle. :P

Mara is still a cooler name though. ;)
pushistyj_koshk
Oct. 8th, 2015 08:38 pm (UTC)
It was bugging me the whole time if the deputy girl was on Supernatural before. Yup http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Emily_(There_Will_Be_Blood)

Thanks for the post! It's at least as entertaining as the episode :)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 9th, 2015 04:43 pm (UTC)
Yes! She's also the girl who I once spent an afternoon staring at, when I worked as an extra for Falling Skies that one time. It was an episode where she was giving a speech to a crowd, so I literally did just stand there for an hour or to looking at her (and Noah Wyle)

Glad you liked the post!
shadowsong26
Oct. 8th, 2015 10:44 pm (UTC)
Hurray for new season!

Yes to everything about this ep being a reset, and it’s a good reset IMO. I mean, yeah, everyone is still suffering b/c I know what show I’m watching but…you know?

Agreed on what you said re: opening, and Sam swearing. That’s one of the (few) things I like about the S3 Ghostfacers episode, it’s the only episode where Sam and Dean get to swear properly, due to constraints of TV…I think both swear like sailors and Sam would absolutely demonstrate that while looking for Dean.

Re: killing Death…I still think either Death staged the whole thing on purpose to hit a cosmic reset button (which could take as long or as short as the writers feel like) and isn’t actually dead, or Dean has become Death…not sure where that might go with the creepy Lucifer-in-Free-to-Be-You-and-Me-‘it’s-always-been-you’ Darkness bond, but I do like it.

I’m not sure if the Darkness is evil or a sort of Blue and Orange Morality that comes across as evil to people living in a world with morality in shades of grey…meaning, I don’t think she’s good, with or without the new (much older?) Croatoan strain, but I don’t think she’s evil, in the traditional sense. Like, I don’t think she’s out to nuke/eat the planet, but we’ll see.

‘You just let me get in the car’ was golden and left me full of hope for their relationship finally improving for real…

Liked what they did with Cas vs. Rowena’s deathbeast spell. Not much else to say about his plotline ATM.

Also liked Crowley's survival! Really liked the actress playing his temporary host, though I feel bad for that poor woman and her inevitable life (death?) sentence…

I think you’re right about this season's theme, though I was kind of wrong about the theme for last season (or at least its relevance), so not sure how much that’s worth, lol.

IDEK what Sam was doing with not shooting the dude—other than he says later he doesn’t know how to kill these guys and maybe didn’t want to risk just pissing him off? Or something? IDK.

Re: why the fingersnap didn’t work for Crowley…I was reading the comments, and I think it does have to do with the spell, mostly b/c Rowena knows what she’s dealing with, and it doesn’t make much sense if the spell only affects the host? So, my guess is it…like…binds Crowley’s powers/binds him to Earth. Or something. Since it obviously didn’t bind him inside the host…

You are so right about all the eye-dialogue in this ep. I love your subtitles…

Agreed about Asian Minion! And, yeah, Crowley pausing for an orgy before calling for help makes total sense, although I actually kind of see why the minions are concerned? Like…sir, are you planning to go play hooky in a karaoke bar again? So it’s not that it’s undemonic, but a worrying possible-repeat of Crowley’s previous behavior.

TOTALLY AGREED on the new fight being a much better fight than the last few seasons’ fights have been. I think this episode did really well referring to/revisiting previous plot threads/plot points/whatever (i.e., Croatoan, some early S5 stuff, etc.) while still making it new and interesting/not redundant, and I’m really hoping this trend is kept up.

Amara may be related to ‘bitter’ somehow? Like, ‘amer’ is bitter in French…IDK where that might go but it might be in there somewhere?

The Cage reference made me SO HAPPY. Because I’m p. sure Michael and/or Lucifer is coming back in some form—although exactly how, IDK. Could be another chapel of slaughtered nuns…but I approve of this development. But you’re probably right, this is just a tease, but I feel like there's been a lot of (particularly Lucifer-related) teases since early S9…? So, like, if two seasons of buildup really is leading nowhere, I will be sad. But I do tend to read way too much into things and have expected followup on stuff that's been dropped before with this show…so we’ll see.

And the boys are lying about important things and Sam is infected…obviously, Sam will find a cure/a way to delay this/maybe his immunity to the other strain will come into play? Since there’s still a whole season…but I wonder how long it’ll be a secret, how he’ll do it, if he’ll have this all season long, if he does how that’ll play into things…

Anyway! Super-excited for this season, I’m really looking forward to what comes next…
hells_half_acre
Oct. 9th, 2015 05:07 pm (UTC)
Yes, the Ghostfacers episode is actually one of my favourites almost for the swearing alone!

I don't know, I kind of hope that Crowley is kind enough to just kill hosts that he uses for that sort of stuff - but who knows.

You're probably right about the fingersnap.

And good point about how the orgy might be a repeat of Crowley's behaviour (from the minions pov) when he shirked his king-responsibilities to either sing karaoke with Dean or watch Casablanca in hotel rooms.

It'd be pretty cool if Lucifer or Michael came back in some capacity, though I don't want their work in locking Lucifer away to be undone or there to be ANOTHER apocalypse threat, so, I'm not sure if I want them to get FREE. But, it'd be really interesting to know how things are going in the cage (and possibly put an end to fandom's Adam questions.)

Given the shelf-life of the infection that we've seen so far, I'm sure that Sam will be cured by the end of the next episode. I highly doubt he'll be infected the whole season - since they've sort of done a "Sam is deteriorating" storyline from S6-9.5, which was closely followed with "Dean is deteriorating" from S9.5-10 - so, yeah, I feel like they've kinda beaten that horse enough now.
khek
Oct. 9th, 2015 01:22 am (UTC)
TSam and Dean may have killed Death, but they didn't kill death. Those people on the road and in the hospital that were attacked by the Road Crew, then by the infected hopital staff/patients certainly looked dead to me. So death must still be happening.

The baby had the Mark of Cain, right? So doesn't that mean that she might be the bearer of the way to contain the Darkness, rather than *being* the Darkness? That's what I thought, anyway.

One of the New Mutants in the X-Men franchise was named Amara. As I remember, she was Roman (I can't remember whether she time traveled, or came from some alternate world) that controlled lava and the earth. For whatever that might be worth. :)

Great summary, as always! I always look forward to seeing what you think. :D
hells_half_acre
Oct. 9th, 2015 05:13 pm (UTC)
Very true, death is still possible, so in my opinion (and from what I understand of SPN mythology) Death has to still exist too. If he doesn't, then SPN mythology collapses in on itself and I get REALLY pissed off at Carver.

I'm pretty sure the Mark is a sign of the Darkness, and the baby IS the Darkness. It became known as the Mark of Cain after Cain got it, because he was the most famous "lock" and the lock was indicated by the symbol for the Darkness. Does that make sense?

Basically, the symbol came first and belonged to The Darkness, then oral history forgot about the Darkness but remembered Cain, so the symbol became known as the Mark of Cain.

So, the baby IS the Darkness - rather than another possible lock.

Anyway, that's what I thought...

But, then, you might have point too, because why would the infected people seemingly be trying to kill her? It could be that she was born just as the Darkness was unleashed, because God was setting up another Lock, so that He (or the Winchesters) could once again fight and trap the Darkness behind the Mark.

So, yeah, I can totally see your point of view too. I guess we'll have to find out! Now I'm even MORE intrigued.
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