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Quick Reaction: 10x03 Soul Survivor

Hello! Early quick reaction tonight, because my friend is going to ChiCon and flying out tomorrow and had to pack, rather than sit around and drink copious amounts of wine.

This is the episode Jensen directed, yay!

Let's get right to it...

I'm going to talk about the storylines all separately...

Sam and Dean

So, we begin with a priest blessing a room full of blood, and Sam pretending to be a doctor. Is it weird that I find Doctor Sam more attractive than regular Sam? Also, his dress shirt is plaid. Oh Sam, I do love you. I have to say, doing everything with one arm (but no sling) actually makes him look a little bad-ass, because it's sort of casual, you know - "I don't care enough to use both my hands" :P

But he does care! Beause he is going to try to cure Dean, and in order to do that, you need purified blood and consecrated ground... and Sam apparently has clured into the fact that thanks to protestantism, he can do all these things (mostly) himself. I mean, he still had a priest bless the blood, so I guess it's not like making holy water? But apparently he could consecrate the dungeon.

We also find out that Dean's blood type is O, though we don't find out if that's positive or negative. That means that Dean is the universal donor, but a very rare blood type for receiving blood. Since I watch the show with scientists, this led to a length discussion about whether Sam and Dean have the same blood type and the possibilities for what their parent's blood type might be. I learned a lot. And now I'm desperately curious as to what Sam's blood type is.

We got into the discussion, because at first we were wondering why Sam didn't use his own blood - we thought maybe they were different blood types, which I thought was rare in siblings, but apparently isn't! (I am not a scientist)... but then we figured it was probably just because Sam wanted to stay as strong as possible throughout the ordeal. I mean, it wouldn't do for Dean to escape while Sam was feeling dizzy from blood loss.

So, this is where these quick reactions fall apart a bit, because this episode is HEAVY on the dialogue, which is AWESOME and my favourite type of episode to review on rewatches - but quick reactions are done after only watching the episode once, and there is no way I can remember exactly what was said when.

But, basically, Dean is doing the demon thing and being really mean to Sam - telling him that he doesn't know why he's trying. Then he goads him about the questionable things he did in order to track Dean down. We find out that Sam is the one who told Lester about the possibilities for making a deal, in order to trap a crossroads demon. I LOVE Sam hiding in the bushes correcting Lester's latin pronunciation. Demon!Dean, of course, makes the point that Sam really isn't much better than the monsters he hunts, since he lured an innocent man to his death to get what he wanted - but, of course, the difference is that Sam regrets it, that Sam had INTENDED to save Lester before he actually went through with the deal.

Sam brings up their father, which, yeah, kind of a mistake. Demon!Dean responds that their father brainwashed them into fighting his losing battles - ouch... not entirely inaccurate, but OUCH... though, it IS ignoring the bit where he kind of HAD to, because Sam and Dean were already marked as apocalyptic angel vessels.

At some point, Sam wanders out of the room for some air and goes to Dean's room. I love this scene, because I think it's Sam reminding himself of who Dean really is - and they have pictures, and the scene is adorable.

He also calls Cas, wondering where the heck he is (and I'll get to Cas later). Apparently, Sam is freaked out because the blood seems to hurt Dean, unlike Crowley who just got weepy... and he's worried that he's killing him. Cas points out that killing him is still one of the best options on the table. And I kind of love this conversation - I love the way Sam says "I could be killing my brother" (or whatever the exact phrasing is) twice with two completely different tones and they mean two completely different things.

Of course, this is when Dean escapes the shackles. Ironically, this is a sign that that the treatments are working, because Dean is human enough to get out of the demon cuffs and walk out of the devil's trap. (Sidenote: To date, there has only been one demon "powerful" enough not to react to holy water - Azazel. I still find that fact very interesting.)

Next comes Dean stalking Sam though what the multitudinous hallways of the Bunker. I know from BTS stuff that the set really only has one hallway, so it was neat the way that they made it look like tons of hallways. I really love exploring the bunker, so it was cool to wander around it. We find out that their kichen is disorganized and that they have a giant electrical room.

I also love the fact that Jensen directed this episode, because I had a giggle to myself about the number of times he filmed himself walking sexily towards to the camera. ;)

When Dean opened the draw to choose his weapon and picked up the cleaver first, it made me think of that scene from The Addams Family, where Wednesday is walking by the table with a knife, and Moriticia says "Is that for your brother?" and Wednesday nods, and Moriticia takes it away and gives her a bigger weapon instead. So, yeah, when Dean picked up the cleaver, I was like "Is that for your brother?" and then he put it down and picked up the large hammer, and it was like "yes, much better."

Sam, grabs the keys to the electrical room and puts the bunker on lockdown. This is where my friend and I started going on about how that was a silly plan, because now Dean would know exactly where he was AND Dean could just flip the switch again. Turns out though, that that WAS sort of Sam's plan - he locks Dean in the electrical room when Dean goes to turn the power back on.

Dean then destroys the door. To which me and my friend had this conversation:
Me: "That's an antique door!"
Friend: "I know!"
...
Friend: "Well, it SHOULD be, but it's apparently made of plywood, which isn't in keeping with historical accuracy at all..."
Me: "Well, alright then, I guess."

The whole time Dean is trying to kill Sam, he's trying to tell him that he doesn't want to be human - that he likes being a demon. And that he doubts Sam has the guts to kill him anyway.

The scene where Dean nearly takes Sam's head off with the hammer is great. In the end, Sam does have the knife at Dean's throat, but takes it away - seemingly proving Dean right, that Sam couldn't bring himself to kill his brother, but, Sam most likely saw Cas sneaking up behind Dean. Cas restrains Dean, they get him back into the dungeon, and they finish the treatments.

While Dean is passed out, Sam spells out his doubts to Cas - telling him how Dean didn't want to be human. I love that Cas points out why that might be - that along with their great capacity for joy, humans also have a great capacity for pain - implying, of course, that Dean probably just didn't want to be in pain anymore. Which, ouch.

Dean then wakes up, and SEEMINGLY the de-demonifying actually worked, and he's human again... though, to me, it all seemed WAY too easy.

Before we talk about the end-end, let's jump back and talk abut Castiel's story...

Castiel

So, we join Cas and Hannah on their way down to the bunker. Hannah, apparently, can't follow directions on maps... or, she COULD be deliberately misleading them, because she a)thinks the Winchesters are bad influences on Cas, and b)Doesn't think Cas is healthy enough to be getting anywhere near demons. She's not wrong about that second point.

Along the way, Castiel also tries to tell her how to communicate human-style. You say you are fine, when you arn't, the other person knows you are lying but doesn't mention it, and you both then ignore the issue. Yay! Haha, Cas has come so far in the past 6 years.

Hannah still wants Castiel to steal another angel's grace so that he'll stop dying. Cas refuses. And I'm kind of with Cas on this one... also, if Hannah was really all for it, she would offer up her own. The fact that she wants him to kill ANOTHER angel just proves that it;s something he shouldn't do.

Anyway, they stop for gas, and Castiel tries his best to make sure that Hannah isn't after him for his sexy body.... or, better said, he makes sure that Hannah is clear on the fact that Castiel doesn't have any romantic feelings for her and that his number one priority is the Winchesters. Hannah is a little pissed off - either because she WAS hoping to tap that, or because she resents the implication that she wanted his sexy body at all.

All the awkwardness is put on hold though, when Idina catches up to them and beats the shit out of both Hannah and Castiel in order to get revenge for Daniel's death.

Thankfully, Idina makes the classic villain mistake of killing them slowly, and Crowley is still invested enough in the Winchesters and Castiel to intervene. Crowley takes the moral decision out of Castiel's hands and steals Idina's grace before killing her, then feeds the grace to Castiel. Granting him a few more months reprieve from certain death.

Crowley explains that he did it because he wants Castiel to help deal with Dean. When Castiel points out that it means he might KILL Dean, Crowley just states that he's "not sentimental." Isn't he, though?!

Castiel, as we know, then finally makes his way to the bunker... so let's talk about Crowley:

Crowley

Crowley is back in hell, being bored out of his tree, because although he likes being top dog, he also seems to hate his job. He's bored. Crowley always ran hell like a bureaucracy, which WORKS, and is something that I always liked about him - because bureaucracy is the hell we can all understand.

But, there remains the fundamental fact that hell is so hellish that demons hate hell too. Crowley is dealing with traitors, and apparently demons who don't think he's appreciating them enough!? And meanwhile, Crowley is daydreaming about all the goodtimes he had with Demon!Dean. It's sort of weird...

So, does he save Castiel because he wants his escapades with Demon!Dean to stop undermining his authority in hell? Or does he do it because messing around with Castiel and the Winchesters is the only interesting thing about his life?

The End Scenes

Sam going out to buy Dean food, threatening to stuff it into his face himself, is all sorts of adorable.... and makes me happy that we sort of have caretaker-Sam for a bit.

Castiel points out that Dean still has the Mark of Cain, and that's a problem they also have to deal with - but Sam is just like "one problem at a time" and says that first he wants to get drunk... which, hey, fair enough. Though, yes, they DO still have to deal with the Mark, because demon or not, it's probably still going to be driving Dean into a bloodlust, only now he doesn't have the Blade to satiate it? I don't know - I guess we'll see. I'm still skeptical that it was that easy to get rid of the demonhood.

Castiel then goes to talk to Dean, and apparently, besides saying that he was hungry, Dean and Sam haven't really talked much. Because Dean asks Castiel if Sam wants "a divorce" - and I love the fact that Dean has made peace with the fact that he and Sam are now a married couple.

I also love that Castiel's response was like "of course not, Sam completely understands, and he has no problem with the fact that you tried to kill him with a hammer" and Dean is like "our lives are messed up." Because yeah, it really is just another day for Sam that his brother tries to kill him with a hammer. :P

Still, as much as I'm skeptical, I do hope that Dean is cured and that this season will be about getting back to being brothers again...though, I won't hold my breath, because this IS Supernatural, and judging solely on the last two seasons, I would say that The Carver loves the brother-conflict a little too much.

New Big Bad?

Apparently Supernatural has a thing for villianous redheaded girls? Also, I agree with Genevieve Padalecki on twitter - if she didn't want blood dripping on her, why did she leave the two corpses on the ceiling directly over herself?

Okay, I guess that's it? Next week looks like return to MOTW.

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments! 

Comments

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kaybee751
Oct. 22nd, 2014 06:59 am (UTC)
I wonder how often that priest gets called out to bless blood at the blood bank? He looked a bit sweaty and nervous, maybe Sam had some story about the blood that convinced the priest to bless it? I'm hoping there's a deleted scene that explains that. Maybe we'll find out at ChiCon.

I liked the demon who everyone thought was going to blow up the room, but he just douses himself and sets himself on fire... "Well, that was unexpected." Crowley's non-reaction leading up to this was interesting - is he so bored that he'd watch a guy blow up the room just for a change?

Also, hubby was right: with Dean being type O, either parent could have been anything but AB. If the parents are A and B, kids could be any of the 4 types. Well played, writers!
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 08:22 pm (UTC)
Well played indeed, writers. Now I'll never know everyone else's blood-type! Though, it occurs to me that we saw John's dog tags at one point in the series, and they'd have his blood type on there... hmmm...

*quick internet search*

HAHA! According to John's dog tags, he's type AB! So, not well played at all writers! You just made it so that John can't actually be Dean's father, though we know he is. So, yeah, science fail.

Anyway, I figure if a Doctor asks you to come bless a bunch of blood in the middle of the night, you're probably going to be a bit sweaty and nervous about it, no matter what story he weaves. :P
elvit
Oct. 22nd, 2014 08:57 am (UTC)
Thank you for your review! It's a pleasure to read it <3

> I know from BTS stuff that the set really only has one hallway, so it was neat the way that they made it look like tons of hallways.

- Oh, I didn't know it, they really did a good job! )

> Turns out though, that that WAS sort of Sam's plan

- Thanks for that! It makes sense now, cause Sam could'n lock the Bunker for real - he left entry open for Cas.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:12 pm (UTC)
Thanks for that! It makes sense now, cause Sam could'n lock the Bunker for real - he left entry open for Cas.

Exactly, which was another thought I had when he locked it down - "No, now Cas can't get in" - but Sam actually never meant it to be locked down for long.
raloria
Oct. 22nd, 2014 10:57 am (UTC)
I've read other fan's reactions that Dean's cure was too easy, but I'm not so sure. It certainly wasn't easy for Dean. In my mind, the Mark will still present enough of a problem for the boys to deal with for a while, so it's not like Dean really is completely cured. There's still a lot of problems to tackle including the boys being brothers again while dealing with the fallout from all of this.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:16 pm (UTC)
You are probably right that they actually do have enough problems without the demonhood. I guess I'm just not used to them solving problems! :P
thursdaysisters
Oct. 22nd, 2014 03:09 pm (UTC)
I was wondering about the ceiling corpses too (though it did look pretty darn cool), like shouldn't she have an umbrella?
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:19 pm (UTC)
I love how we've been watching this show long enough that we're not horrified by a gruesome murder, we're arguing the impracticality of corpse placement.
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percysowner
Oct. 22nd, 2014 04:25 pm (UTC)
I think The First Blade intensified Dean's need to kill, but he doesn't have to kill with The Blade to satisfy The Mark. He should be okay on that front. They hunt monsters. They kill monsters. The Mark gets fed by killing monsters. Dean's job keeps him alive. Although, since the Mark won't let him die, it's all relative. We shouldn't have to worry about Dean dying until The Mark is removed.

I wouldn't mind a return of Demon!Dean. Frankly, I was rooting for more of a Soulless!Sam season, where Sam doesn't wholly cure Dean of being a demon, but finds a way to control him. But they don't seem to be going that way, so, oh, well.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:21 pm (UTC)
It's more like Dean's job should keep him sane and not bloodlust-angry.

I think they wanted Dean to be Dean in time for the 200th episode - that's my guess anyway.
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katsheswims
Oct. 22nd, 2014 06:02 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed the episode.

I thought it was pretty easy to change Dean back. He was acting kind of confused when he woke up and was splashed with holy water with no effect and it had me wondering if he was only "mostly cured" and was just going along with it since they assumed he was back to normal...I guess we'll see. He does still have the Mark after all.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
Yup, time will tell! I mean, he was still murder-demon-y when he was human enough to get out of the cuffs and the devil's trap... so, who knows.
pushistyj_koshk
Oct. 22nd, 2014 08:00 pm (UTC)
Oh, wow. That's easily one of the best episodes of SPN I've seen. And a really good job directing, Jensen!

I haven't read your reaction post yet, so I'll be getting back with more comments (when I've had less wine, haha) :)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 08:15 pm (UTC)
It really was a fantastic episode! :)
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marlowe78
Oct. 22nd, 2014 08:40 pm (UTC)
Hey again :-)

So, this was Jensen's ep? (Well, his direction - you know what I mean) Wow, didn't even remember it while watching!
Well done though it was a bit sloooow at times. which might have been because of the interruptions of the road-tripping and throne-sitting kind, but well... Yeah.

. Demon!Dean, of course, makes the point that Sam really isn't much better than the monsters he hunts, since he lured an innocent man to his death to get what he wanted - but, of course, the difference is that Sam regrets it, that Sam had INTENDED to save Lester before he actually went through with the deal.
I LOVED that plotpoint. I loved that we saw Sam making tough and very immoral decisions when it came to saving his brother - because it's not far fetched. He was the one who kinda suggested killing a virgin just to get Dean out of the deal (though "just" isn't really the right word), and maybe he's still trying to work over his guilt about not looking for Dean while Dean was in Purgatory (even though Dean wanted him to not look - kinda. Well, we know that issue, don't we?) He's always been the one of them who got them most passionate about things - be they fighting with his father or getting revenge or saving his family. It fits him that he's overlooking his own moral code to get to his goal - though at least he DOES feel bad about it.

Also, Dean didn't tell Sam all - he told that he killed Lester, yes, but left out that he didn't kill the wife and he lied about the soul going to hell (I think he lied. Didn't he lie?) instead of telling him that Lester died without the deal being fulfilled, and therefore his soul wouldn't go to hell. (though it would have belonged there, in my opinion. Stupid sexist ass!)

There might not have been much human left in Dean, but as a demon, he still had some kind of moral code. Warped but there.

I also love the fact that Jensen directed this episode, because I had a giggle to myself about the number of times he filmed himself walking sexily towards to the camera. ;)

Hahaha! Never occurred to me (as I said, didn't remember it was his directing) but now i can't unsee it! :-D



marlowe78
Oct. 22nd, 2014 08:41 pm (UTC)

We find out that their kichen is disorganized and that they have a giant electrical room.

That was SUCH a male kitchen!
A cleaver in with a hammer? Seriously? Though for the Winchesters, maybe they sort by "tool" and "no tool" and a cleaver is too much a tool to not be with the hammer :-D

Dean then destroys the door. To which me and my friend had this conversation:
Me: "That's an antique door!"
...


And I thought - for the hundredth of times - if it's just the movies that make such doors, or if it's really an American thing with the crappy house-building. Because even the door to my sleeping room would withhold such a hammer for a LOT longer than that. Seriously... The locks are in-kickable, the room-doors can be kicked and hammered in - is it a German thing to build doors that reliably keep someone out?

though, to me, it all seemed WAY too easy.

Yeah... It's certainly very sudden.
Though I really loved how with just a little change in expression, the cocky Dean was gone and there was only that weary piece of human left that is the "real" Dean. Ouch. If you see the difference, you certainly see how someone would want to be a demon.

I think it's interesting, how much Sam doubted his right to make Dean human again. When in the same place, Dean never hesitated to decide, was just too prepared to let Robo-Sam "die" and get his brother back - with all his issues. Of course, Sammy's soul was with Lucifer at the time, so there was much more incentive than just being selfish.

And Sam... well, he was in a similar place now than Dean was before, with Ezekiel "possessing" Sam so he wouldn't die. He had the same choice - do something his brother didn't want or don't do it but lose him.
Because not curing Dean would have led to him being dead - I am rather certain Cas would have killed him. Sam... probably not.

I think it's good for Sam to see that what Dean did to him (with Zeke) was probably not chosen lightly and I'm sure he had that in mind, too. He was so insecure with his decision to cure the demon, maybe he was indeed remembering his own anger about his choices being taken away by his brother that he was now not convinced that HE should be the one to make the choice. Hmmmm...

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cappy712
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:26 pm (UTC)
Love the review - it hits the nail on the head.

I thought it was interesting the Crowley was the one who helped take the moral decision away from Castiel, he needed him to help the Winchesters because Dean was more than he could handle.

The fact that they cured Dean that quickly was sad, there could have been so many more things they could have done but then again, it would have just been dragging on.

I still find it interesting that instead of hurting Sam or tormenting him, when Deanmon came back he took off with Crowley? Still trying to wrap my head around it, the fact is they could have really done a number on Sam and instead he took off. That really doesn't seem like a demon to me. Some reason he still cared (even saying he didn't) he took off. Then the just let me go, I will leave you alone - come on that's just not "normal" demon behavior. The deal with Lester - by killing Lester instead of the wife, in a way Dean was still looking out for Sammy. He did something so wrong and couldn't prevent Lester from making the deal but then Deanmon killing Lester instead just kind of is off, yeah the guy was a jerk but still. It would have hurt Sam even more if the wife was killed and Lester's soul was on the line. There is so much in that, the way he was talking about things and really making a point of hurting Sam with his words. I'm thinking there was more of Dean there then he lets on. So, now that I've rambled...

We have yet to see what the mark is going to do to Dean but that's part of the fun.

Thank you for the review.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 22nd, 2014 09:49 pm (UTC)
Re:
The fact that they cured Dean that quickly was sad, there could have been so many more things they could have done but then again, it would have just been dragging on.

Very true.

There is so much in that, the way he was talking about things and really making a point of hurting Sam with his words. I'm thinking there was more of Dean there then he lets on. So, now that I've rambled...

I agree with you completely on these points. I don't think Dean was really as lost as he seemed. I think it was sort of like Cas' "crazyness" in S7, where it was a bit of an act, but when it came right down to it, he still had his head on his shoulders.

We have yet to see what the mark is going to do to Dean but that's part of the fun.

Very true! I'm intrigued to see how they move forward.
strgazr04
Oct. 23rd, 2014 03:06 am (UTC)
Dean's blood type is interesting. I didn't even pick up on it until you said that. I have type O as well. I find it to be so in character for him to have the universal donor but not universal receiver blood type. Though it also makes it harder with all the injuries he's had and being in the hospital. As someone who has had many surgeries, type O sucks esp when no one else in your family matches.


This also makes me wonder if Sam and Crowley have the same blood type since Sam used his own blood to cure him LOL

Edited at 2014-10-23 03:08 am (UTC)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 23rd, 2014 03:31 am (UTC)
I don't think Sam cared much about Crowley to worry about bloodtype... I don't actually think the bloodtype matters much in the ritual, but Sam got O for the symbolism of caring about Dean.

Technically, Dean's blood type is impossible, because John's dogtags named his bloodtype as AB, and AB parents can't have O children. But, hey, we don't have to be nitpicky about it. :P

But you're right, it actually DOES really suit Dean's personality to be type O. I wonder if that's why the writer's chose it.
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shadowsong26
Oct. 23rd, 2014 03:39 am (UTC)
Yay, new episode!

As for why Sam is using donor blood, it might be a combination of the two things--they didn't know/care what Crowley's host's blood type is (insert long digression on the relative value of hosts/vessels and why I wish the show would pay more attention here), and Sam has learned from experience that drawing the blood himself leads to difficulties/accelerated the Trials-sickness or whatever. My guess is it is the combination, rather than one or the other.

This episode is super dialogue-heavy and the dialogue was pretty amazing.

I, too, really love the conversation Sam and Cas have there. And I love that Cas is the one Sam calls to talk him down when he starts having doubts, and that he trusts Cas's advice. And I just...yay!

(Sidenote: To date, there has only been one demon "powerful" enough not to react to holy water - Azazel. I still find that fact very interesting.)

There's a theory that this is actually because he's a demonized fallen angel? Because apparently the leader of the angelic faction that fell because they decided to get it on with human women and create nephilim was named Azazel...it would also explain why no other demon has eyes like his, whether yellow or another color. IDK whether or not I buy into this theory, but it's food for thought, anyway.

Again, with the Sam pulling the knife away, I think both options are true--he can't bring himself to kill Dean, and he was backing off so Cas could restrain him. I don't know what he would have done if Cas hadn't come up when he did, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been able to actually cut Dean's throat or whatever.

You are right, in that the de-demonizing felt way too easy. Roommate even said, at the end of the episode 'they're trying to make him look suspicious,' which...well, we'll see.

That's a really good point, that Hannah would offer Cas her own Grace if she was really serious about it being a good idea. I hadn't thought of it from that angle.

Hannah is a little pissed off - either because she WAS hoping to tap that, or because she resents the implication that she wanted his sexy body at all.

Honestly, I'm kind of hoping for the second option. Not because I object to her wanting to tap that in principle, but because I really like the idea of lots and lots of happy/close platonic relationships in my media.

I think I'm kind of giving up on trying to figure out where the hell Crowley's head is at this point. I mentioned to Roommate that "no matter what he does now, it won't feel like it came out of left field." Which is mildly frustrating, but also kind of awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing what he's up to this season.

The closing scenes were wonderful--adorable happy caretaker Sam at least knee-deep in de Nile, slightly suspicious Dean, Cas JINXING IT by saying 'Heaven and Hell seem to be stable for now so you can totally take a vacation...'

Overall, I really liked this episode when I watched it. And thinking back, I love all the scenes/moments. But...on the other hand, the farther removed I am from this episode, the more kind of confused I am? I feel like there's a lot that's happening here that I'm missing. I think it just...felt like it was tying off too many things for such an early episode? So, as amazing as pretty much every part of it was, it feels...slightly unsettling. And the little threads we got--possibly-suspicious, still-marked Dean, Crowley not being as secure as he thought in Hell, that new redhaired Demon Lady at the end...IDK. I think I'll appreciate it a lot more when I have a larger context/know where it's leading.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 23rd, 2014 09:17 pm (UTC)
My guess is it is the combination, rather than one or the other.

Agreed on all points.

Because apparently the leader of the angelic faction that fell because they decided to get it on with human women and create nephilim was named Azazel...it would also explain why no other demon has eyes like his, whether yellow or another color. IDK whether or not I buy into this theory, but it's food for thought, anyway.

Interesting!

Honestly, I'm kind of hoping for the second option. Not because I object to her wanting to tap that in principle, but because I really like the idea of lots and lots of happy/close platonic relationships in my media.

Agreed.

So, as amazing as pretty much every part of it was, it feels...slightly unsettling. And the little threads we got--possibly-suspicious, still-marked Dean, Crowley not being as secure as he thought in Hell, that new redhaired Demon Lady at the end...IDK. I think I'll appreciate it a lot more when I have a larger context/know where it's leading.

I'm really just agreeing with everything you're saying. I don't have much to add... or, anything to add, really. It'll be very interesting to rewatch this episode once we get a broader context for it - which is, yet another reason, that reviewing this episode is better suited to a "rewatch" rather than a "quick reaction".

borgmama1of5
Oct. 23rd, 2014 05:02 am (UTC)
The whole time I was tied up in knots watching demon!Dean and tormented Sammy I was simultaneously being blown away by Jensen and Jared's performances...and thinking that Jensen was doing this phenomenal acting job while directing himself and !!!

I love that several fans figured out why Sam didn't use his own blood--because he didn't want to be weakened from blood loss--show left it out but we figured it out on our own :)

The ending made me feel unsettled because we didn't see a Sam and Dean reunion scene. And then I realized that could have been intentional--leaving the fans feeling off in the same way that the boys are feeling right now as Dean remembers what demon!Dean said and Sam struggles with knowing intellectually that wasn't Dean saying those things but it still hurts emotionally anyway.

hells_half_acre
Oct. 23rd, 2014 09:19 pm (UTC)
Jensen really did knock it out of the park this episode. I can't even blame him for Demon!Dean being a little more Texan than usual, because obviously he had enough on his plate without having to worry about schooling his accent too.

Also, this was the first episode of the season - so technically the first time he ever played demon!Dean, and before he knew the full context of what was going on - very impressive indeed!

The ending made me feel unsettled because we didn't see a Sam and Dean reunion scene. And then I realized that could have been intentional--leaving the fans feeling off in the same way that the boys are feeling right now as Dean remembers what demon!Dean said and Sam struggles with knowing intellectually that wasn't Dean saying those things but it still hurts emotionally anyway.

Very good point. They obviously wanted to leave us unsettled, just as the boys no doubt are.

supernutjapan
Oct. 23rd, 2014 12:26 pm (UTC)
because this episode is HEAVY on the dialogue, which is AWESOME and my favourite type of episode to review on rewatches

Isn't it though? :D I really loved all the Sam/Dean scenes.

I also love the fact that Jensen directed this episode, because I had a giggle to myself about the number of times he filmed himself walking sexily towards to the camera. ;)
LOL! I wonder if we'll get some in the gag reels? I really really loved those scenes. He wasn't hunched forward like he is as human!Dean. He had his chest out and confident of his demon powers. If it didn't take him long to break through a door, he is stronger than the average human as well. Not only is he demon, but he also has the MoC.

Along the way, Castiel also tries to tell her how to communicate human-style. You say you are fine, when you arn't, the other person knows you are lying but doesn't mention it, and you both then ignore the issue. Yay! Haha, Cas has come so far in the past 6 years.

Yeah... and then he goes and tells Dean that he looks awful. He lies to Hannah about himself, but he tells the truth as he sees it to Dean? Is that because he's on the other side? Worrying about Dean, while with Hannah, he doesn't want to worry her? Or, is that something to do with the new grace??

implying, of course, that Dean probably just didn't want to be in pain anymore. Which, ouch.

Which Cas understands because maybe he has a few more feelings than he wants? It also reminds me of Dean in Season 4 though(since I'm there in my rewatches). Wanting to forget all the guilt and pain from hell.

Enjoyed your review! sorry I was a bit late. I haven't been able to watch the show as quickly as I like and boy was I going crazy seeing you guys posting your reviews when I hadn't even seen it! Come and visit my post for some pics and gifs aye? :)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 23rd, 2014 09:27 pm (UTC)
He wasn't hunched forward like he is as human!Dean. He had his chest out and confident of his demon powers.

Good catch! I didn't even really realize the complete change in body-language, but it definitely helped switch the character in my head subconsciously - neat acting/directing decision from Jensen there!

Yeah... and then he goes and tells Dean that he looks awful. He lies to Hannah about himself, but he tells the truth as he sees it to Dean? Is that because he's on the other side? Worrying about Dean, while with Hannah, he doesn't want to worry her? Or, is that something to do with the new grace??

I don't think it's out of the ordinary nor hypocritical. Castiel says that Dean looks awful, but his point to Hannah wasn't that you shouldn't say that, it's that you should accept the person's answer that they're alright, even if you suspect that they are lying to you. Which Cas still does with Dean. He gives Dean an opening to talk to him, Dean chooses whether or not to take it, and Cas respects his choice.

Which Cas understands because maybe he has a few more feelings than he wants? It also reminds me of Dean in Season 4 though(since I'm there in my rewatches). Wanting to forget all the guilt and pain from hell.

That has definitely been Dean's MO for a while now.
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elvit
Oct. 24th, 2014 06:55 am (UTC)
Someone said that Dean chose the hammer because he didn't want to cheat on First Blade with a knife-like weapon! ^_^ How cute is that? :)

hells_half_acre
Oct. 24th, 2014 06:57 am (UTC)
Haha, aw Dean, so loyal.
tipsy_kitty
Oct. 27th, 2014 12:38 am (UTC)
So many insightful comments in your recap and this thread! So I'm going to throw everything off with a piffling question:

Was Dean wearing Sam's crucifixion shirt from Dark Side of the Moon?
hells_half_acre
Oct. 27th, 2014 01:02 am (UTC)
...I don't know. I'm not sure what shirt you mean? The one he was shot in? I didn't pay much attention to the clothes... I could rewatch and get back to you. ;)
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