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Quick Reaction: 9x11 First Born


I had a bit of a mixed reaction to this episode, but over all liked (of course).

Let's just jump right into it!


Oh wait, I'm already getting ahead of myself. How did the episode actually open? Oh yeah, with Cain killing people in 1863 Mississippi. Good times. At first, I completely forgot that I had been spoiled for the character and was super confused that he was killing people angel-style but with red-glow instead of white-glow....and then we saw the jawbone, and my friend knew exactly who it was, because she's surprisingly up on her Cain and Abel mythos, and then I remembered that I already knew that! So, as you can tell, I really brought my A game tonight /sarcasm. :P

Do we start with Sam or Dean? I think Dean.

Dean is drinking at the bar and he already has four empty bottles beside him... don't the bartenders usually take those away? Anyway, the point is, Dean, I think, is a bit drunk. So, that's when Crowley shows up! Dean DOESN'T kill him on sight like he promised. We find out that 1)Dean's in Tahmoh's bar, but Gadreel is long gone (and they really need to give us a name for Gad's vessel, because until then I'm just going to keep calling him Tahmoh.) 2)Crowley wants Dean to help him find "the first blade", which is the weapon that the archangels used to kill the knights of hell... Dean, eventually, reluctantly agrees, because he wants Abaddon dead and most likely has a bit of death wish, because Dean always gets a bit of a death wish when he's super depressed and not around Sam. BUT THEY'RE BEING WATCHED!

Cut to Cas and Sam in the bunker... Cas can't enjoy food anymore, because it tastes like it's component parts. I'm guessing the sensation is probably like when we put a complete meal in a blender - it suddenly makes all your favourite foods disgusting, even though that's the form they end up in inside your stomach (note: there is a reason you do not have tastebuds in your stomach.) ANYWAY... the most important thing here is.... SASSY!

Guys, I've been waiting years YEARS for Sam and Cas to have some goddamn extended scenes alone together. I think they have such an interesting dynamic, because they DON'T have a profound bond. Not to sound like destiel shipper, but even I have to admit that their dynamic is more brother-in-laws than friends... and I find it fascinating! Anyway, so I'm thrilled, from everything from Sam sticking his finger in Cas' PB&J (sounds dirty) to Cas trying to get the band back together again...

But I'm getting ahead of myself. Cas goes to heal Sam, and realizes that there's something inside of him that is resonating angelic-ly. Do we cut to Dean here?

Oh wait - before we cut to Dean, I have to say that I loved the part where Sam called Cas a bad liar and Cas is like "that's not true! I successfully lied to and betrayed you and your brother, so HA!" Brilliant.

Back to Dean, John Winchester was the last person to possibly hear information about the First Blade, because he caught and killed the peon that Crowley had sent to find it (was it Crowley? I can't remember anything.) He left a code next to the entry in the journal - which leads to a storage locker where he kept further information. Guys... I love this filing system so much, you have no idea. Suddenly, John's ability to keep everything in a small journal makes SO MUCH SENSE.

So, Dean and Crowley go off to the storage locker - Crowley makes jokes... reminding Dean that he's been inside Sam, and that joke does not go over well. Dean finds the information - John thought that the demon was lying about the FIrst Blade, and he worked the case with a partner named Tara. So - off to find Tara.

Meanwhile, Sam and Cas are researching angels - does Cas really need to research angels? Apparently he does! Angels leave behind a little of their grace, like a fingerprint...only actually not like a finger print at all. It's more like leaving behind 1/8 cup blood...or, dare I say it...no, no I won't say it....Okay I will, because if you take possession as a metaphor for sexual assault, which the show often does.... then, well...

ANYWAY... turns out the Men of Letters came up with a rapekit way to extract it...and if they can get enough grace, they can use it to track Gadreel.

So, it's off to the medical-bay! For some reason, Cas brings his sandwich... but we'll get to that later.

On the way, Cas tries to talk to Sam about Dean, reminding Sam that Sam DID choose to live instead of completing the third trial. Sam agrees, but is still made that Dean made a choice FOR him, regardless of Sam's earlier choice. Sam's kind of touchy about his free will, you guys... if anyone is confused as to why, may I suggest watching the first 5 seasons.

Meanwhile, Dean and Crowley meet Tara, who has a knee that detects demons - is super disappointed in Dean for working with the King of Hell, and still pissed that John Winchester was the love'r&leave'r type. Dean agrees with her, because he hates himself.... but again, depressed, so death wish and uncaring of consequences.

They do a location spell (similar to the one that Ruby did back in 4x16 when the angels took Dean...so that was really cool to see again.)...and then it's off to that location!

Meanwhile, Cas and Sam are playing doctor, and we get Sam in a t-shirt! Yay! And then we begin the process of removing the grace, which requires Cas to stick a huge long needle into the base of Sam's brain. Fun times! No one is enjoying themselves. The procedure causes Sam to have flashy memories and, as Cas informs us, it somehow undoes Gadreel's healing? I'm confused about this as well.

Sam tells Cas to keep going though, because he also has a death wish... and um, Sam, asking your brother-in-law to kill you is not cool. How's he supposed to explain that to his husband?

Back to Dean and Crowley, who arrive at the house that they've used a couple of times before - most notably (for me) in 3x01 Sin City, where it housed a dead family and Dean got hilariously knocked out on the porch by two other hunters. This time, though, we find that it houses Cain.

Crowley is terrified and wants to leave, but Cain's already seen them... we find out that Cain is a big murderer dude, or was, until he suddenly stopped and disappeared. Cain invites them in for tea and serves it to Crowley using the same pattern of china that my mum has!! GUYS IT WAS LIKE CROWLEY WAS DRINKING TEA IN MY CHILDHOOD! The rest of the cups had different patterns, which is something that my sister's mum used to do too...so, it was like a combination of the two mother-figures that I grew up with! And, that's when I decided that even if Cain was a crazy murdering bastard, I loved him.

So... I totally forget what they talked about, because I was distracted by the tea cups. Crowley was nervous...and then Cain made him shut-up and just talked to Dean. Dean told him that he wanted to kill Abaddon and needed the First Blade to do so. Cain told him he wasn't getting it and then kicked them out. Or something... oh, I think first Cain told him that it was actually CAIN that trained and made the knights of Hell....awkward!

So, it's off to the car, Crowley says they should leave- Dean says that they'll just wait for Cain to go into town, then they'll break in and steal the First Blade. Solid plan, Mr. Deathwish.

Meanwhile, Cas is still torturing Sam... Sam insists he keep going, Cas is increasingly uncomfortable with the whole situation.

Back to Dean... Crowley and him break into Cain's place and start looking... but they don't find anything, even though they stood in the middle of the room and looked around. Dean DOES find a picture of a woman named Colette though. Uh, Dean, it shouldn't come as a surprise that Cain might have hooked up...YOU'RE DESCENDED FROM HIM!!! But, fair enough, he's not descended from Colette, that happened later - because by that point there were already Campbells (which in my headcanon are the Cain/Lucifer line, with the Winchester line being the Abel/Michael line.)

Cain comes home....oh, I should say - meanwhile, that demon that was watching Dean and Crowley in the bar has gone and killed Tara. This is why you don't SHOOT devils traps to break them...geeez...just scratch off the paint and then put it back as soon as they leave. UGH.

Cain comes home and he and Dean have words about how Dean didn't kill Sam, because you never give up on family etc. Then Cain decides to test Dean by watching him fight the demons and seeing how much of a killing machine he is.

This part is pretty damn awesome, because Dean IS a killing machine. I also love the fact that Cain is just sitting there preparing his corn. So hilarious.

Let's cut back to Sam and Cas, because I can't actually remember the sequence of events here. Sam's still insisting that Cas keep going, but Cas looks over at his sandwich and the sandwich tells him to stop. Okay, so THIS is the part that I thought was a little...over the top. Firstly, what is with the weird shot of the sandwich? I don't think it was necessary, I don't think Cas needed a visual aid to remind him what being human was like. Secondly, when Cas pulls the needle out of Sam and then heals him completely after looking at the sandwich, I thought "holy crap! Did Cas just use up all his stolen grace to heal Sam and thus make himself human again?!" Because, that made sense to me - the fact that a)Sam should be harder to heal than normal, b)it would explain the look to the sandwich, because it would be something that Cas would actually regain by losing his grace, and c)I thought it'd be an awesome gesture friendship-wise.

But, nope, instead Cas just healed Sam and insisted they stop because he didn't want Sam to die - which, yeah, that's also a nice gesture of friendship, but again, I don't think he needed the sandwich to spur that on - I think the Sam screaming in agony as he forced Sam to do something that would probably kill him was enough.

Then Cas tells Sam about how he understands that Sam wants to sacrifice himself for a greater cause because of all the guilt he carries around with him - because is the same way. And he explains that he was always a means justify the ends guy, like Sam was currently being, but that he learned it was wrong... and such. And okay, so it IS everything that I wanted Sam and Cas to bound over, but it was kind of... all in one go, you know? I wanted that spread out and done in a much more subtle fashion... this way felt a little "Full House" to me. Or, as my friend said, "I learned something today..."

BUT, whatever, I can't complain too much, because it IS what I wanted out of Sam and Cas interacting, because they DO have the most in-common out of the everyone.

So, Cas tells Sam that he should stop having a death wish, that the world needs him around - not dead, etc. It's all very touching.

Back to Cain's house... Dean has successfully killed the demons, and then Cain lays down the truth.

He didn't kill his brother, he saved him. I LOVE this twist on the Cain and Abel myth, I have to say. In Supernatural, Cain wasn't jealous of Abel, he was despairing because Abel was talking to Lucifer, not God, and Lucifer was leading him astray. Cain couldn't stand seeing his brother go darkside, so he made a deal - he'd willingly go darkside and go to hell, as long as Abel got to go to heaven. The caveat, of course, was that Cain had to send Abel to heaven himself - hence the killing. Then Cain became a killing machine, made the nights of hell, etc....

Eventually, he fell in love with Colette, who made him retire from the killing.... until the knights of hell took her, because, like the archangels, apparently they missed their daddy. So, like any good father whose children are too codependent, he MURDERED THEM ALL.

Except for Abaddon, because she was wearing Colette and and then she killed her, and then she fled so that he ended up stabbing Colette instead of Abaddon, and then Colette was like "don't kill anymore!" and died...thus being stupid, because COME ON! Apparently being reasonable and saying. "Kill that one demon that just murdered me, and THEN don't kill anymore, mmmkay?" was too hard for her. Anyway, after that, Cain through the jawbone First Blade into the deepest part of the ocean. (There is an epic war going on between angler-fish now that we don't even know about as a result, I'm sure.

Anywho.... more demons start flooding the property and Cain offers Dean a deal - he'll give Dean the Mark of Cain, which is what powers the blade (ie: without the mark, you can't use the blade) but it comes at a TERRIBLE PRICE! Dean doesn't even wait to find out what the price is, he's just like "Deal! Gimme!" - because unlike Sam, Dean does not have anyone with him that is going to give him the "Deathwish = Bad" speech. Instead, he has Crowley, who has set this whole thing up from the beginning, with this end goal in mind.

So, now we have to ask ourselves, what's the terrible price? My first thought was "live forever", because in my opinion that's a terrible thing. My friend thought "soul destined for Hell" since that was what Cain's deal was.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Sam and Cas try the tracking spell, but they don't have enough grace for it to work. Sam is disappointed. Cas apologizes... and then we get Sam thanking Cas and HUG TIMEZ!!! AWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...it's a Sassy!hug. And it IS awkward, just like Sam thought it would be back in S6.

But guys, I love the fact that when Sam hugs Cas, and Cas just stands there, before Sam tells him he's supposed to hug back, Cas closes his eyes and you can tell he's just enjoying the hug! It's super adorable! More hugs for Cas now please! :P ETA: Also, adorable face-pat from Sam as he pulls out of the hug!! Seriously?!?! I think at that point Jared just wanted to kill me.

As Cas walks away to go find more information or something, he tires once again to get the band back together - telling Sam that they'll need all the help they can get. But Sam just says "we got this" - like him and Cas are all that they need...and okay, I know he's just not ready to be around Dean yet, but the idea that Sam might actually think that he and Cas can do everything on their own warms the cookies of my sassy!heart. (And again, I mean that in a friendship sense - I don't actually ship anyone on this show, except as friends.)

Crowley echoes the same sentiment as Cas though, as he too, tries to get the band back together before he leaves to search the bottom of the ocean for a jawbone.

But the band HASN'T gotten back together by the end of this episode...so does that mean that I get MORE Sassy goodness? I would approve of this.

So, yeah, a little bit of a mixed bag on this one... I'm interested to see what the mark of Cain means for Dean, though I'm worried, because it's for sure nothing good... and yeah...

But I find it really interesting that we basically have Dean going after Abaddon and Sam going after Gadreel... I kind of want them to stay like this for a while, but the show has a tendency to get the boys back together sooner rather than later, so I'm not going to get my hopes up.

And that's that! Pretty interesting episode. Let me know in comments what I missed that you desperately want to talk about...


( 36 comments — Leave a comment )
Jan. 22nd, 2014 08:53 am (UTC)
I loved the part where Sam called Cas a bad liar and Cas is like "that's not true! I successfully lied to and betrayed you and your brother, so HA!"

Me too...Cas was written very 'coherently' tonight, if you know what I mean--his behavior made sense. (Except the healing Sam of all the damage so easily--that made me go bwhuz?!?)

Twist on Cain and Abel story was excellent...wonder if I squint can I see any parallels to any other show characters...

Dean + mark of Cain = me more nervous about show than I have been for a couple years...there is no way this goes well...
Jan. 22nd, 2014 09:07 am (UTC)
Agreed all 'round, including the "bwhuz?!?" ;)
(no subject) - thursdaysisters - Jan. 22nd, 2014 08:47 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jan. 22nd, 2014 10:26 am (UTC)
I also thought when Cas looked at the sandwich he decided to give Sam the borrowed grace. So that scene was weird. The whole extracting grace thing was weird. If this is true, shouldnt Lucifers grace be in there too? Im okay with that because we got some bonding, a new room in the bunker, and that hug. Plus Cas really really wanted to call Dean. So obvious.

Dean having the mark of Cain is a big deal. I hope the show doesn't mess this up. I didnt see that coming, but I figured there would be parallels. Cain was first, so he was be whom Dean descended from. I loved how calm and in control he was. Dean was amazing as he took on three demons at once. Even the fight was well choreographed. Lately the fights seem boring, but this one was good.

I loved the episode.
Jan. 22nd, 2014 05:28 pm (UTC)
It's true... maybe that's why the tracking spell didn't work. (if it really didn't work)...because they had thrown BOTH graces in there? So the results were "deepest circle of hell and pizza-hut" or whereever Gadreel is. :P

Dean and Sam are descended from both Cain and Abel, but yeah, the whole "First Born" thing, just like Lucifer being the "younger brother" probably means that Dean might be the only one of the two of them that COULD take the mark, who knows.

I agree about the fights too! They haven't put that much effort into them in a while and it was nice to see!

Definitely an interesting episode!
Jan. 22nd, 2014 11:57 am (UTC)
So, it's off to the medical-bay! For some reason, Cas brings his sandwich... but we'll get to that later.

Once I saw the ep a 2nd time, I figured the sandwich didn't get moved at all. He left it in the main room and in that shot of it before he pulls the needle out it's all blurry around the sandwich. So they were just using it to indicate he was thinking of the sandwich. Yeah, a little beating over the head, but it's okay.

And I figured Cas was able to cure Sam so quickly because the Grace was all gone.

Actually, 301 was The Magnificent Seven, not Sin City. ;)
Jan. 22nd, 2014 05:22 pm (UTC)
I always do that with 3x01 for some reason. :P

And THAT explains the really weird "magic sandwich" shot - but yes, I REALLY don't think it was necessary for Sam to think about a sandwich. I mean, I think just his words would have been enough for the audience to understand that Cas was having feelings about human nature and whatnot. :P

The curing Sam quickly still doesn't make sense though, because it was the grace that seemed to be keeping him healthy, given the fact that extracting it was putting him back in the state he was before.

I don't know - I usually don't complain this much, and I'm sorry, but that bit kind of stuck in my craw a little.
Jan. 22nd, 2014 02:15 pm (UTC)
Not to sound like destiel shipper, but even I have to admit that their dynamic is more brother-in-laws than friends

I'm a total not Destieler, but I have always felt that for Cas, Sam is like his best friend's younger brother who hangs around all the time, so he gets tolerated. I have wanted Cas and Sam to bond so that made me happy.

I'm a tiny bit concerned that Cas's "I've lied and betrayed you and Dean before" is said and then soon after it's nope, not enough grace to find Gadreel, who I hate and despise. Oh, well, I'm going to look for Metatron, bye now. Because I think there is a tiny chance that it will turn out that Cas lied to Sam about the grace thing and the first statement was to remind us that he is more than capable of doing so when he thinks he needs to.
Jan. 22nd, 2014 05:19 pm (UTC)
I'm a total not Destieler, but I have always felt that for Cas, Sam is like his best friend's younger brother who hangs around all the time, so he gets tolerated. I have wanted Cas and Sam to bond so that made me happy.

Yes, exactly!

I'm a tiny bit concerned that Cas's "I've lied and betrayed you and Dean before" is said and then soon after it's nope, not enough grace to find Gadreel, who I hate and despise. Oh, well, I'm going to look for Metatron, bye now.

Very true and a real possibility, I'm afraid. I think the last time Castiel did an angel-tracking spell, it was to find Balthazar, and only he could see/hear the results.

If that IS the case, then Sam is going to be SUPER pissed, because of being lied to yet again.
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Jan. 22nd, 2014 02:31 pm (UTC)
I loved the mirroring of the "real Supernatural story" of Cain and Abel with Dean and Sam. The older brother made the original deal to go to hell/be hell's bitch to save his younger brother. Again! I mean, that family! The original sons then the Winchesters. And another "creature" that the dagger doesn't work on. Yeah. Also, I noticed that Cain's mark didn't go away when he gave it to Dean. He said transferred, but it was more like shared.. so now maybe Dean's sharing in Cain's deal?
Jan. 22nd, 2014 02:33 pm (UTC)
Mind you, now that I think about it.. Cain knows everything about Dean. And while he did kill demons - is he being trusted too fast? I mean... that story could be a lie. He *is* the first murderer.
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Jan. 22nd, 2014 08:58 pm (UTC)
So, I really loved that episode. Yeah, that sandwich was a bit overdone, like "Oh, wait, maybe some Bieber-Fans are watching... make it easy to understand" ;-)

And the grace is getting... weird. Very weird. I like the parallels you draw, with the rape-kit and stuff. Nver thought of it that way, but yeah... interesting and if that's the case - Well done, writers for being so very subtle :-)

I loved Cain-Lassiter. And I'm really hooked about what that mark will mean - I think the bible says that it was a sign telling every one that he will not be harmed and is under protection of God himself (which is interesting - is it valid if God is on Holyday?) - would that mean he can't be killed? That... might indeed be interesting for Dean, though right now I think Dean wouldn't see it as a burden.

Hmmm... would it mean that angels can't kill him? *scratches head* The Winchesters should change up their prey ;-)

Anyway - since they messed with everything in this show, even the "one sole truth" that Cain murdered Abel, I'm trying not to get ahead of myself here ;-)
Jan. 22nd, 2014 10:15 pm (UTC)
I think Dean would see it as a burden when he realizes that inevitably, he will outlive Sam...and then live alone forever. I don't know, I'm not a fan of living forever, I think it would get horribly lonely and heartbreaking. I don't even have pets, because the thought of getting attached to something that I know has a severely limited lifespan just doesn't appeal to me.

I love how they mess with everything in this show.
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Jan. 23rd, 2014 12:39 am (UTC)
The mark of Cain on Dean --- wow!!! 0_0

According to lore (wikipedia :P ) Cain becomes a fugitive or wanderer. Theoretically, the mark protects him from those who would harm him. It's probably a Hebrew Letter. I'm notoriously bad with Hebrew, but I think it might have been Ayin, which would be one of the letters in the Hebrew word for Fugitive. (Now I've got "the Lonesome Fugitive" by Merle Haggard locked into my brain!
who am I kidding, this song has always been Dean to me. and, it actually references Cain in the first verse. ) The mark also "excludes him from the family unit" D: which is pretty much Dean right now.

Here are the relevant verses from Genesis 4:
10 The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 ... You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” 15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him.

Re the first blade: the jawbone of an ass is a very memorable weapon, but it was actually Samson's weapon in Judges 15, not Cain's. :P It COULD have been a jawbone that Cain wielded, but just as likely a stone, or anything. BTW I always liked that scary obsidian+femur thing that Dean carried in Purgatory. Creepy!

The sassy stuff was perfect. Cas was ideal. Awkward hug ftw \o/

Also, loved Crowley in this ep. The guy playing Cain was super (I don't watch Psych)

Plus, Tara rocked!! Very sorry she got killed so fast. ):
Jan. 23rd, 2014 12:46 am (UTC)
I THOUGHT it was a stone that Cain used, but I just assumed I was wrong when my friend said he used a jawbone. But, perhaps there are different versions. I think the last time I head the story of Cain and Abel, I was in third grade (I went to a Christian-based school).

Regardless, the jawbone is pretty cool.

Well, Dean's already a fugitive wanderer, so not much will change there... unless it prevents him from being around family, in which case UH OH!

I agree about the guy playing Cain - super awesome. I don't watch Psych either (only saw a few episodes, didn't hold my attention enough to stick around.) I do know that he came to VanCon a couple years ago and sang my favourite Bobby Darin song though, so I already loved him based on that. ;)
Jan. 23rd, 2014 01:52 am (UTC)
I really liked the episode. I loved the twist on Cain's story and making him similar to Dean. I was not expecting the mark transference, but as soon as it was brought up as a possibility I knew Dean would take it--though he didn't even listen to the price/side-effects (but he hates himself right now and doesn't care so...). I also think eternal/long life could be the price...

I also thought at first that Cas had used up his stolen grace to heal Sam and was human again. That would have made more sense at first--but I guess what happened works.

Cain's house also brought to mind the seven deadly sins episode. I thought that was the same house we see in the beginning. Though I think "Sin City" is later with Casey and the priest demon, and it's "Magnificent Seven" or something like that for the title on S3 ep.1.
Jan. 23rd, 2014 05:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, I accidentally wrote Sin City instead of Magnificent Seven - I often get that title confused. That's what I get for typing up these reviews at midnight :P

Sounds like, once again, you and I had similar thoughts on the episode! :)
Jan. 23rd, 2014 02:27 am (UTC)
Re the house, it is actually Bobby's house too according to sources who read Jared's comment on Twitter, and the inside set has been used quite a few times before as well. Interesting!

Anyway, LOVED the episode, LOVED your review. Laughed all the way through it.

Sam tells Cas to keep going though, because he also has a death wish... and um, Sam, asking your brother-in-law to kill you is not cool. How's he supposed to explain that to his husband?

I love that. So true!

This is why you don't SHOOT devils traps to break them...geeez...just scratch off the paint and then put it back as soon as they leave. UGH.

She wasn't a very sharp hunter obviously. If you have the King of Hell coming by looking for the first blade, there is a good possibility more demons are going to come by again. Be prepared!!

unlike Sam, Dean does not have anyone with him that is going to give him the "Deathwish = Bad" speech. Instead, he has Crowley, who has set this whole thing up from the beginning, with this end goal in mind.

I have a bad feeling, as you do, that Crowley has more on his mind than just Abbadon... Making Dean his knight?? (shudders)

Looking forward to next week!

Jan. 23rd, 2014 05:51 am (UTC)
It's not the outside of Bobby's house... though they may have used it for it in Dream a Little Dream of Me - the outside of his house looked a little different in that episode. I thought that tweet was referring to the INSIDE set, which I think was a rearranged version of Bobby's house. But hey, could be wrong.

I have a bad feeling, as you do, that Crowley has more on his mind than just Abbadon... Making Dean his knight?? (shudders)


I mean, as absolutely horrible as that would be - at the same time, not gonna lie, I think it'd be pretty damn hot. :P
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Jan. 26th, 2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
A lot to say - another wordy comment
What an awesome episode. So much to think and talk about.

I loved the shout out to Castiel being a good liar when he corrected Sam saying that he lied for a whole year to the brothers during his fight for Heaven and against Raphael. Ouch to bring that up, but yes, Castiel can lie like the rest of them. However, I do think since he has now experienced humanity for himself, it may not be as easy for him to lie to them like he did then.

I also loved the shout out to John's journal. It was cool how the search for the blade brought in an earlier hunt with John, and how he documented that in his journal. AND how quickly Dean found it in John's journal. I mean, Dean almost went right to the pages where John talks about that particular hunt. Which brought to my mind his conversation with Henry and how often he has read John's words. I loved the fact that Dean was carrying that with him. Almost like a security blanket. If Dean couldn't have Sam, at least, with this journal, he could have his father, or still be close to his family in some way. I just found that very touching. And for the journal to still have some relevant information - that is THE BEST.

The Sam/Castiel moments were cool. We don't get them alone very often, but I did like their interactions with each other. I particularly loved it how Cas kept trying to weave Dean into their conversations and find a way for Sam to help him forgive his brother. Always the guardian angel.

I love it when they do location spells or conjuring spells, as was the case in this episode. I'll have to do a post on those. I just love it when they bring out the alter, and ingredients, light the match and voila! It's so normal for them to be doing such things. I find it intriguing.

I didn't completely understand or like Sam's death wish in this episode. Sam just really wanted to die and that just really bothered me. I guess I can see why he would feel insignificant and wanting to end things, especially if you think back to how he was at the end of last season. Now that we have the "REAL" Sam, I guess those feelings are still there, being as what we have seen of Sam so far has probably been tempered a lot by his possession of Gadreel.

I read another review that touched on Sam's death wish a little more and what they said really alarmed me. She talked about how if Sam had gone through with killing himself, how would Dean have reacted to coming back to find his brother dead. Dean would not have reacted well, there would have been so much left unsaid and undone between these brothers that Sam killing himself or having Castiel do it by extracting Gadreel's grace would have ended Dean. Dean would not have had any further purpose, and the dark path that he is following right now, he would never come back from. Dean would have gladly and quickly crossed that line that he is teetering on right now and gone full bore into killing Abaddon, Crowley and Gadreel and all the while turning himself into a monster that he has fought against his whole life. So, yea, if Sam were to have died at this point, the ramifications would have been catastrophic. So, I am very grateful that Castiel was there to talk some sense into Sam and bring him back into the fight more emotionally. Because Dean needs Sam more than ever right now. I just hope Sam will be able to see that soon.

Jan. 26th, 2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
Re: A lot to say - another wordy comment
Tara was a great addition. I just wish she didn't have to be killed so quickly. But, I do agree with you, it was stupid of her to shoot at the Devil's Trap. Scratching a hole in the line and letting Crowley out would have been the more prudent thing to do. Then once Crowley was gone she could and should have quickly repainted the line back up, making the trap whole again. Really not a smart thing to do for a seasoned hunter like that.

Dean's fight scene was most awesome. Dean is a killing machine, and he is a tested and true fighter. Especially after his year with non-stop fighting in Purgatory. It was very interesting to watch Cain observe Dean as he fought against the demons one by one, and how he let them trickle in until he had seen enough. All done while Cain shucks his corn and gets himself a drink. Very well done. It was good to see Dean in action again that way. It has been a long time since we have really seen that side of him, and boy did he ever deliver.

I also loved all the remarks Cain made to Dean about his reputation. Which just really makes me want to have an episode where the brothers run into other hunters and they hear more about what those reputations are all about. I would love to see other hunters in a bar, such as Harvelles, and have them talking about the Winchesters. There is this whole other side to the hunting community and they all know A LOT about the Winchesters, but the brothers know so little. I just really would love to actually see some more interaction with other hunters, and have the brothers realize what a mark they have made on this world. Remember Walt and Roy? "You really want to spend the rest of your life knowing Dean Winchester's on your ass?" I want to see more hunters that think and feel this way. Maybe if Dean and Sam knew a little bit more about their reputation and what others thought of them, they both might start to feel that YES, they have been important in the scheme of things, and despite all the havoc and death that has surrounded them, they would feel more positive about their existence and their place in the whole story.

Given the previews for next week, we do see that the brothers are back together again. It would have been interesting to maybe see them apart for another episode, each exploring their own path of revenge, but I am glad they are getting back together. However, what has me on pins and needles is HOW will the show bring them back together. Will Dean reach out to Sam? Will they find each other by accident, ala Season 7? Or will Sam reach out to Dean? I really hope that Sam is the one that reaches out first this time. Dean is in such a dark place right now, Sam has to be there and come for his brother. Sam has to help Dean stay human.
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