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Quick Reaction: 8x10 Torn and Frayed

Oh man... I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

My friend was accidentally spoiled for the ending of this episode, and so decided it was in my best interest if I was fortified with a lot of wine before we watched... no worries, it's not like I have to work tomorrow or anything. (In all fairness, I was the one that just kept drinking... :P)

So, let us begin at the beginning...

I don't actually remember the beginning. I think it was Sam moping in a hotel room? Sounds like something Sam would do. And there's a knock at the door, and Sam reacts the same way I do when there's a knock on my door... like the door is some sort of malicious enemy come to eat me. Seriously, there's nothing that makes you feel like you have psychological problems more than realizing that you have the same habits/reactions as a Winchester.

But no worries, it's just Dean! Dean is there to further defend Benny. Or get pissy at Sam for not trusting him. Sam argues that Dean wasn't asking Sam to trust him, he was asking Sam to trust Benny and Sam doesn't know Benny...but I call bullshit on that excuse, because that's the same as Dean asking Sam to trust Dean. Because he's asking Sam to trust him that Benny is a good person. So, yeah, but whatever, I'll give Sam a pass because I think he's pissed about the whole Amelia ruse, and I think if he had actually met and talked to Benny he'd PROBABLY have given him a chance. At this point we'll never know...

Anyway, Sam's pissed about the whole Amelia ruse - and he actually brings up the L word. (Hint: It's not "lesbians"). And Sam does make a good point, it's pretty low of Dean to make Sam think that his girlfriend is in danger when Sam suffers from penis of death syndrome. It wasn't exactly like it's too outside the box for Sam to think that some evil thing had tracked down Amelia - and Dean probably shouldn't have played that card. That being said, I'm still of the same opinion that I had after 8x09 - that ploy was just too brilliant for me to give Dean a hard time about it. Seriously, if you are clever enough, I seem to excuse a lack of morals... this does not say good things about me.

So, Sam and Dean have their fight and then they break up. Dean takes off for Montana and Sam stays in Texas.

Meanwhile, Cas is off curing babies.

OH NO WAIT, I FORGOT THE WHOLE REASON I WAS DRINKING SO MUCH WINE! 

My baby angel was being tortured with head spikes! NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..................

Oh Baby-Angel... Your death certificate was signed the day I fell in love with you. Just as Sam has the penis of death, my love is a death omen.

Anyway, Cas gets called away from fixing babies to Naomi, who is still shady. She wants him to rescue Samandriel - and YES, this is what I wanted, but I had already been forewarned not to get my hopes up - and so I did not. Still, I'm glad that Castiel wanted to rescue Samandriel. I'm glad, in the end, that Samandriel was loved.... 

So, Cas goes off to get Dean, who is snoozing just outside of Whitefish. And I like that Dean is of course in right away...that there's no question about it really. 

The scene with Dean opening up the laptop and having the porn still there was pretty funny... I'm just imagining the reactions now "mustn't let your boyfriend find your straight porn."

They track Crowley down to Nebraska - meanwhile Samandriel is burning bushes. I loved Cas' line about "manifesting in shrubbery"... mainly just because I love the word "shrubbery". It's a funny word - Monty Python knew.

I also liked Cas' line about "Yes, that's his serious face" when the burn victim asked Dean if he was serious. 

Of course, this whole time poor Samandriel is being tortured. Oh Samandriel. My friend thinks that they should invite the actor to Cons, just so that all the fans can give him comforting hugs (comforting for the fans, of course, the actor would probably find us all very creepy).

Meanwhile, in Texas, Sam and Amelia are having very awkward conversations. Seriously, I know I always write these reviews from a position of positivity, because I like to like things, but I was not feeling the Sam/Amelia vibe this episode. Maybe it's because I had been hoping for more from that storyline...I was really hoping that the weird filters they used on the flashback scenes meant that at least part of the relationship took place purely in Sam's brain or something. I just wanted some sort of manifestation of a broken psyche - because last season Sam DID have a broken psyche and then it was miraculously fixed and then the centre of his entire world died...and I just wanted SOME CONSEQUENCE of that. But, I suppose Sam abandoning hunting because it kills everyone he loves is the consequence they gave me and what I'll have to live with.

But even if you ignore my disappointment in that storyline not having more to it, I still wasn't really feeling the Sam/Amelia vibe. They're conversations were awkward - I mean, come on, WORST POST-SEX TALK EVER. And this is coming from someone who once cried during a post-sex talk...like, my standards are not that high. :P

On the other hand, they didn't make Jared wax his chest. Though, how Sam can still have perfectly coiffed hair after sex is a mystery to me.

Anyway, I've jumped around a bit...apparently what happened was Amelia showed up at the bar, confirmed it was Sam, and then RAN AWAY. Okay, weirdo. Then she shows up at the door and is like "You can't just leave and then come back" and I'm sitting there thinking "dude, he didn't come back! He looked into your window for like ONE SECOND and then left WITHOUT TALKING TO YOU. YOU were the one that chased HIM down." But whatever, I guess she gets a pass because she's apparently thinks about him all the time and is in love with him. But then Sam is like "well that sex was a mistake" and she's like "YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE! YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE FOOT IN!" and I'm like "DUDE! YOU WERE THE ONE THAT TRACKED HIM DOWN AFTER HE REMOVED BOTH FEET!" 

Anyway, they set up a deal where if the hotel room is still occupied in 2 days, they'll run off together or something.

Meanwhile, Dean and Cas go to Garth's safe-house-boat, to find Kevin all alone trying to decifer half a tablet. I guess without the whole thing he can't read it with his prophet super-powers, so he's trying to take the linguists approach. Good luck, buddy.

Dean wants more demon bombs, and Kevin is annoyed, and Cas goes off to find the ingredients, and Dean is all bragging about how convenient an angel friend is. And then Dean gets bored, and Kevin puts on his noise-cancelling headphones and so Dean takes the opportunity to tell him that his mom is hot. I bet Lauren Tom will get a kick out of that dialogue.

While he waits, Dean gets a call from Benny, who is jonesing for a fix (do people still use "jonesing"?)... Dean really is Benny's sponsor, but the problem is that Dean's also a hunter and he can't just drop everything and go talk Benny down from the live-blood ledge. Especially not when his brother is all pissed at him and his angel's friend is being tortured by demons.

Cas recruits Sam. I loved the scene where he just shows up next to Sam in the park, and he's like "Ah, people watching! That's one of my favourite things too!" (paraphrased, of course). Sam and Cas are buddies when it comes right down to it. It's a weird relationship, but it works.

So Sam comes to and he and Dean do that "I'm so angry at you" stare across the boat as we cut to commercial....

Meanwhile, Samandriel is still being tortured...and they've discovered his "operating system" - as in, the basic instructions that all angels have encoded inside them. I guess it's sort of like birds, who are born already knowing what shapes in the sky they have to be afraid of. "Obey" is the first commandment, it seems. Then there's some other stuff and it gets to the tablets, and the angels know how many there are and what they are each about...

So, it's off to save Samandriel. Castiel can't enter because of the angel warding. So he writes on Sam's hand the symbol that the boys have to cross out in order for him to enter. What's with this weird fetish people have with writing things on Sam's hands? Fine, it's only happened twice, but twice can be a pattern! I guess Sam has big hands that are good for writing on. I think it's a strangely intimate thing to do though, to write on someone's palm...but hey, Sam and Cas are buddies, so it's all good.

Apparently angel swords can kill demons too. INTERESTING. Odd that it hasn't come up until now, but it makes a lot more scene that an angel's main weapon would slay demons rather than an angel's main weapon being ONLY USEFUL for slaying other angels. Also, now I have a headcanon that the demon knife is carved out of an angel blade... that maybe there's something about the colt that is as well.

Off they go, killing demons and crossing out graffiti... and I do like that even though the boys are fighting, they still work great together.

They finally get Cas into the place, but he's all weak and weirdly terrified by Samandriel's screams. I do love that Sam and Dean just immediately go crazy trying to break down the door when they see what the screams are doing to Castiel. I loved the "Okay, we'll go with plan B" and Sam's "there's a plan B?!" Because that was something that Dean said more than once to Soulless!Sam who always had a plan B. Turns out, Dean's plan B is just to do whatever he's currently doing even more violently (which, come to think of it, was also Soulless!Sam's plan B, when it came right down to it.)

They finally get into the room and go mad, but sadly not before Samandriel gives Crowley some information that he's actually happy to have. 

There's an angel tablet. Makes sense to me. When it comes right down to it, angels are just another monster in Supernatural - albeit ones associated with "good" by the common folk and not as blood thirsty as any of the other monsters. But Dean told Lucifer much the same in The End. It was actually one of my main objections to the Dean/Cas pairing for the past four years. I've always thought that Dean was bisexual, so it wasn't the homosexuality that I thought stood in the way of the pairing, it was the fact that Cas ISN'T HUMAN. He's a creature, and Dean does not think highly of creatures, no matter what kind of creature they are. Now that being said, in this season that's changed. After Purgatory, Dean's attitude towards creatures has changed (whether this is because of Benny, or has led him to trust Benny, or whether it's because of CAS and just transferred over to Benny too is a matter that's up for debate.) But, now, I really think the only thing standing in the way of Dean/Cas for me is that I need confirmation that Jimmy is dead, and then I'd be on board.

But anyway, there's an angel tablet, and Crowley wants it.

Cas saves Samandriel, but sadly, Naomi has done more to Cas than we thought. She too tortured him somehow. She somehow took away the free will that Cas nearly destroyed himself to obtain. It's really rather tragic. Samandriel knew, because Naomi had done it to him too. Who knows how many Naomi has under her command?! There were so few angels left after Castiel devastated heaven, you have to wonder if by the time Crowley finds the tablet, the work won't already have been done for him by the angels themselves. After all, we don't actually know how new angels are created. They aren't created from human souls like demons, and they don't seem to procreate in more traditional ways...so, it's a curious problem. Are all these angel wars burning through a finite supply?

So, Samandriel dies by Castiel's hand, even though Castiel loved Samandriel and Samandriel was good. Even though Castiel didn't want to... even though Castiel was trying to atone for his angel-killing sins, not add to them.

And I think part of Castiel is fighting against Naomi's brainwashing - hence the bleeding from the eye, which of course Sam and Dean pick up on, but I think Sam realizes there's something fundamentally wrong even before the blood appears.

Castiel takes Samandriel to heaven, and Dean and Sam go back to the cabin and temporarily angel-proof it in order to talk about Cas. They both think that there's something weird going on "ever since purgatory"... and it's true, because none of them actually know how Cas got out, and Dean KNEW all the monsters in purgatory were gunning for him. It was why Dean was so convinced that Cas was dead the moment he was left alone there.

Then the boys have their talk about what the heck to do about their own relationship. Dean is sick of fighting, but he's also not going to force Sam to join him on the road. Dean does what Sam couldn't do for Amelia and he leaves it up to him. Dean admits that maybe he was jealous, because he was never able to leave the life...but that "one of us might as well be happy" and then Sam says "yeah, because you're such a hugger"...and I honestly have no idea what the hell those lines meant paired together. So, if anyone wants to enlighten me, I'm all ears. My friend's husband thought that Sam was tying to say "yeah, and it's impossible for you to be happy so it'll have to be me." But yeah, your thoughts?

But Dean says that Sam has to choose. Sam is left with the same choice that Amelia had. Does he choose his new love or his old one? In the end, Sam chose FOR Amelia and he decided that she stay with her old love. Sam's decision is no different - he chooses his old love, even while Amelia tries to choose her new love on the other side of the county only to discover that he has not chosen her.

Before that happens though, Sam goes for a walk, and Dean calls Benny - and he too, chooses his old love over his new one. Even without knowing Sam's decision, Dean decides that he can't be Benny's sponsor... that it nearly came between him and Sam and perhaps deep down Dean knows that it's really only a matter of time before Benny cracks, and probably Dean just hopes that he's not the hunter who has to put him down.

And so another Winchester fight is behind us.

But please - a moment of silence for my baby angel. :(



Let me know what I missed in the comments!

Comments

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raloria
Jan. 17th, 2013 09:26 am (UTC)
But then Sam is like "well that sex was a mistake" and she's like "YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE! YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE FOOT IN!" and I'm like "DUDE! YOU WERE THE ONE THAT TRACKED HIM DOWN AFTER HE REMOVED BOTH FEET!"

Yes!!!! Thank you!!! Glad I wasn't the only one who felt this way about the whole Sam/Amelia situation. You'll see it in my review. ;)

Dean admits that maybe he was jealous, because he was never able to leave the life...but that "one of us might as well be happy" and then Sam says "yeah, because you're such a hugger"...and I honestly have no idea what the hell those lines meant paired together. So, if anyone wants to enlighten me, I'm all ears. My friend's husband thought that Sam was tying to say "yeah, and it's impossible for you to be happy so it'll have to be me." But yeah, your thoughts?

Yep, I thought that was a weird thing for Sam to say, too. Um....what???
I hope someone has an explanation 'cause I've got nothin.

hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 09:41 am (UTC)
Well, I'm glad I wasn't the only one lost on that line... or feeling that way about the Sam/Amelia situation. :P

Hopefully someone knows what Sam meant. I'll let you know if I get a fabulous answer from someone.;)
liliaeth
Jan. 17th, 2013 09:52 am (UTC)
Is it weird that when I saw Castiel being tortured that I instantly thought what a boon this is to Castiel hurt/comfort fans?

Now they can also instantly imagine what had to have been done to Cas and Anna in s4 when they went through their respective reprogramming
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 10:00 am (UTC)
Very true! They had their frontal cortex messed with. :P
etoile444
Jan. 17th, 2013 11:15 am (UTC)
Sam and Amelia will always be awkward, but this was probably the best we've seen from them. I think Jared did a good job conveying that Sam was using/fantasizing that Amelia was Jessica. I think he was creating something that has long passed and is no longer and option for him. I wish they'd written it all much better this season. If I wrote something that bad I wouldn't have shared it publically. Maybe knowing its over made it easier to watch.
fannishliss
Jan. 17th, 2013 05:45 pm (UTC)
I had a weird reaction, which was that I think the Sam/Amelia relationship was really meant to be just as lacking as it was. Amelia and Sam are two wounded people offering each other compassion and love, but that's not much for a relationship to go forward with. I usually am a big fan of SPN women -- Ellen, Lisa, Jodie, Charlie are all incredible strong women -- but I kind of think having Sam fall for someone who is in a pretty bad place in their life seems fair.
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 07:01 pm (UTC)
I just think they should have played that up more, if that were the case. That we should have seen more of the cracks and the clinging part of the relationship. I mean, it's fine for Sam to fall for someone who's in a bad place in life, but I still think they should have written it stronger.

But again, rare criticism from me, and maybe it'll be better on rewatch.
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 06:59 pm (UTC)
Yes, I agree. Sam/Amelia is awkward because it's a broken relationship that's been broken from the jump. I think it could have been written better though - maybe they'll manage to turn it around for me in the coming episodes, but it sort of looks like the writers are done with that storyline, so maybe not.
katsheswims
Jan. 17th, 2013 02:07 pm (UTC)
I think this exchange: "one of us might as well be happy" and then Sam says "yeah, because you're such a hugger"--Dean said that because of what Kevin said to him earlier, but Sam's line is much more puzzling. I really have no idea what he meant by it.

When Samandriel died I thought of you! I knew you really liked him.

I had a lot of the same thoughts about the Sam/Amelia scene. I think it was one of the better scenes with them--but too much still like a soap opera for me. I just can't believe that Sam would love her--they keep saying it, but not really showing us why he would. I think we're not supposed to believe it. I believe he cares about her, but in the end she was just a replacement, and now Sam just has to realize that.
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 06:57 pm (UTC)
Well, at least I'm not the only one confused about that line.

Maybe it's because we're just not used to blatantly romantic storylines in Supernatural? I don't know...

But I agree with you. I think she's just a replacement. Sam DOESN'T love her, and we're not supposed to believe that he really does... he kind of latched onto Amelia for no reason because he needed SOMEONE to love... sort of like how Dean turned Lisa into the symbol for a fantasy life he could never have.
ellecc
Jan. 17th, 2013 02:07 pm (UTC)
Honestly, the "hugger" line baffled me, too. Like... Was Sam implying Dean needs hugs to be happy? That he'd never be happy without hugs, which he's obviously not going to get anywhere? So Sam is the only one with a chance to be happy?

LOL. I don't knowwww.

OBVIOUSLY it means that Sam and Dean need to hug more! The end.

ETA: OH! And what about Dean's plaid sports coat?? That's a first, right? I know you don't track their suits, but that really jumped out at me. It was so... IDK. Well, it was kind of like that time he wore a sweater vest last season. Unexpected! (But not nearly as hot as the sweater vest, I'm afraid.)

Another stray thought--I love that Dean opened Sam's beer at the end :) Old habits are hard to break, and with some, you shouldn't even try.

Edited at 2013-01-17 05:56 pm (UTC)
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 06:54 pm (UTC)
Was Sam implying Dean needs hugs to be happy? That he'd never be happy without hugs, which he's obviously not going to get anywhere? So Sam is the only one with a chance to be happy?

See, I thought the line might be sarcastic - so Sam was implying that Dean WASN'T a hugger...though, I think Dean actually is one deep down. So, yeah, I'm just confused. :P

OBVIOUSLY it means that Sam and Dean need to hug more! The end.

Agreed! ;)

ETA: OH! And what about Dean's plaid sports coat?? That's a first, right? I know you don't track their suits, but that really jumped out at me. It was so... IDK. Well, it was kind of like that time he wore a sweater vest last season. Unexpected! (But not nearly as hot as the sweater vest, I'm afraid.)

I've noticed that Dean dresses differently when he's playing a reporter rather than an FBI/gov't agent. He dresses more casually, though still suited up. It's sometimes a little jarring, actually...but for some reason Dean has decided that his fake reporters should look different than his fake fbi agents. :P

Another stray thought--I love that Dean opened Sam's beer at the end :) Old habits are hard to break, and with some, you shouldn't even try.

I loved that too!! :)
elliemurasaki
Jan. 17th, 2013 03:46 pm (UTC)
Then there's some other stuff and it gets to the tablets, and the angels know how many there are and what they are each about...

Um.

Is there information I missed somewhere after 8x02 that would explain why Sam and Dean first learned about the leviathan tablet by stealing it from a leviathan, when there were many perfectly good angels who presumably knew it existed, if not necessarily where to find it?
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 07:04 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, oh man, good point. Maybe it's "hardwired" and not necessarily "accessible" information?! Maybe the angels were too busy reeling from Cas' massacre in heaven last season to address the Leviathan issue?

Or maybe they just messed up. :P
gryphenn
Jan. 17th, 2013 04:22 pm (UTC)
Ohhhhh, here's a thought! Naomi is the one who 'punished' Cas when he was snatched for 're-education' so he wouldn't spill the beans to Dean.

He only ever said it was unpleasant and the whole how was dropped. Well, torture is very 'unpleasant' so that leaves it open for Naomi to be the Angels re-education goon. That also leaves it for her to have a whole different agenda than the Angels who were all in to the Apocalypse.

I'm dying to find out!
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 07:07 pm (UTC)
Yes, that's an interesting idea that might be true! You have to wonder what the agenda is of an angel who can reprogram/control other angels? There IS a power vacuum in heaven right now that was caused by an angel wanting free will... what better way to fill that vacuum AND secure your position then by taking away the free will that lead to the revolt in the first place?!

We'll see though, if this is a power grab or not... you'd think if it were just about that though, Naomi wouldn't have bothered rescuing Cas from purgatory to what? Spy on the Winchesters? Did she give a good reason?
pielover62
Jan. 17th, 2013 04:26 pm (UTC)
“I just wanted some sort of manifestation of a broken psyche - because last season Sam DID have a broken psyche and then it was miraculously fixed and then the centre of his entire world died...and I just wanted SOME CONSEQUENCE of that.”

Yes, this! I totally agree. I know Sam and Dean ore different people and react differently, but it’s really been bugging me that Sam didn't have more of a reaction to loosing Dean. I mean, the part where he ran I can kind of understand, but then to just forget all about him and start a love affair? It just never quite tracked for me.

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hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 07:11 pm (UTC)
Exactly, exactly. I just want there to be something else to the "while you were gone" storyline that actually shows Dean (and us) how Dean's death really affected Sam - BEYOND the whole general "hunting kills everyone I love" thing.

I don't mind if you friend me at all! I try to keep all my reviews positive. This is actually one of my more negative ones, if you can believe it. :P I can sometimes get a bit more critical doing my rewatches, but my quick reactions are usually all pretty cheery.

Anyway, friending is always welcomed. :)
ashkiryn
Jan. 17th, 2013 04:33 pm (UTC)
Just to start with: when the baby angel showed up, I immediately thought of you. :)

Also: I am immensely proud of Dean during his opening conversation with Sam, and that his emotional maturity is still going strong.

Sam, on the other hand....I am disappoint. YOU'RE SLIPPING, SAM, DON'T DO THAT, DON'T LOSE OUR MOMENTUM!!!!!

But CAS!!!!!!! Seriously, I wanted to cry when I realized what Naomi had done to him, that she was compromising his hard-won free will, and just....NO. BAD NAOMI. LEAVE CAS THE FUCK ALONE RIGHT NOW OR I WILL CUT YOU. Also, I just don't GET her. Like....WHO ARE YOU? What's going on in Heaven, what was your position in all of the past shitfest, just....what? Hell, how did you get Cas out of Purgatory in the first place, because isn't it supposed to be nigh impossible? QUESTIONS.

And hey, at least Sam and Dean aren't buying Naomi's bullshit, and that they've recognized there's something wrong with Cas. I saw many people apparently hating on this, that we're back to "Dean not trusting Cas", but personally, I don't think that's it. I mean, there is SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY WRONG WITH CAS, but it's not Cas's fault, and I think Dean and Sam recognize that. It's not that they don't trust Cas---they don't trust whatever is using Cas.

But back on the bad side of things, DEAN. NO. DON'T CUT BENNY OFF. I completely got the whole sponsor/recovering addict needing to be talked off a ledge vibe from them too, and I just...I can't believe I'm sticking up for the vampire, but I just can't help but feel that this is going to bite Dean in the ass, and....fine, I admit it, I feel sorry for Benny. He needs something to hold onto, damn it. And now I'm afraid. Like...Winchesters (and paralled by Kevin pushing away his mom), you can't afford to lose the very few friends that you have left! ONLY BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO COME OF THIS. *bites nails anxiously* :/

I, too, was not feeling the Sam/Amelia, and...whoa, Sam's using the L-word?! LOVE? Like...holy shit. I'm pretty sure only Jessica's had that distinction in all of Sam's past relationships, and it immediately makes me even more wary. And SAM. STOP IT. STOP REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKES ALL OVER AGAIN. PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. NEITHER IS REFUSING TO TELL THE PERSON YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOURSELF, DAMN IT. Also, none of this makes me feel good...either Dean giving up Benny or Sam giving up Amelia, because...I have the horrible feeling that this will come back to bite them, and that this is far from the last we'll see of those characters.

And NOOOOOOOOOO, SAMANDRIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D: Also...did Cas kill him against the Impala? Does the Impala have angel wings burned onto it now?

And well...if what Naomi is doing to Cas is the same as what Heaven did to him back in season 4...I'll hope for that, because then at least we'd have a precedent of Cas overcoming the reprogramming.

OH! I also found it very interesting that Dean ended up with Ruby's knife, and that Cas gave his angel sword to Sam to use. See, more proof that Cas doesn't exclusively favor Dean. Also, Cas telling Dean and Sam to stow their crap made my night. And Dean, I was proud of you for just killing that demon, and not letting it manipulate you.

Okay...I think that's all.

*moment of silence for Samandriel*
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 07:26 pm (UTC)
Also, I just don't GET her. Like....WHO ARE YOU? What's going on in Heaven, what was your position in all of the past shitfest, just....what? Hell, how did you get Cas out of Purgatory in the first place, because isn't it supposed to be nigh impossible? QUESTIONS.

Agreed!!! I'm thinking that she's trying to fill the power vacuum created in the wake of the apocalypse and Cas' rampage?! But then why rescue Cas (supposedly at the loss of even more angel life)??! I mean, if he was the one that wrecked things in the first place with his free will, why not leave him safely trapped in purgatory while she takes over heaven?!?! QUESTIONS!

I saw many people apparently hating on this, that we're back to "Dean not trusting Cas", but personally, I don't think that's it. I mean, there is SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY WRONG WITH CAS, but it's not Cas's fault, and I think Dean and Sam recognize that. It's not that they don't trust Cas---they don't trust whatever is using Cas.

Yeah, I don't see why people would be hating on this. They're reaction wasn't "ah crap, Cas has gone evil again" it was "Cas needs our help! Something nasty seems to be controlling him!" Because the boys KNOW Cas well enough now that they know he wouldn't do bad things intentionally.

Like...Winchesters (and paralled by Kevin pushing away his mom), you can't afford to lose the very few friends that you have left! ONLY BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO COME OF THIS. *bites nails anxiously* :/

See, I think Benny is going to start eating folks, and Dean will feel guilty that it's his fault...and maybe I'm just a pessimist when it comes to people, but I think that even if Dean did keep in touch, even if he DID drop everything and continually meet Benny for coffee...I think Benny would still eventually go bad. Maybe if he hadn't been pushed out of Louisiana he'd have been alright... but now? I really think it's only a matter of time no matter what.

NEITHER IS REFUSING TO TELL THE PERSON YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOURSELF, DAMN IT..

I think that's part of the reason that I don't really buy the "love" aspect of their relationship, even from Amelia's side. Because how the hell does Amelia love Sam when she knows absolutely nothing about his life or his past?! How is Sam not still completely alone in the world as long as he keeps that a secret?! With Jessica it was different, because Sam was younger and had only hunted small things around school. He was basically a normal kid with a history of strange extracurricular activity - but at this point, it's been 10 hardcore years. Amelia MUST be able to feel the ENORMITY of what Sam is keeping from her.

And NOOOOOOOOOO, SAMANDRIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D: Also...did Cas kill him against the Impala? Does the Impala have angel wings burned onto it now?

Haha, I was wondering that too!! I'm guessing he must have cleaned it up, or else Dean definitely would have commented. I'm kind of sad that we didn't get to see the angel wings. I really love that visual. Also, the Impala would look cool with wings charred into it. :P

And well...if what Naomi is doing to Cas is the same as what Heaven did to him back in season 4...I'll hope for that, because then at least we'd have a precedent of Cas overcoming the reprogramming.

I'm hoping the same thing. I think the eye-bleeding was perhaps a sign that Cas IS trying to overcome the programming. We'll see though.

OH! I also found it very interesting that Dean ended up with Ruby's knife, and that Cas gave his angel sword to Sam to use. See, more proof that Cas doesn't exclusively favor Dean. Also, Cas telling Dean and Sam to stow their crap made my night. And Dean, I was proud of you for just killing that demon, and not letting it manipulate you.

Agreed on all fronts!

:)
fannishliss
Jan. 17th, 2013 05:48 pm (UTC)
I am super sad about Samandriel, and also for Cas, because that was so awful. The torture was extremely disturbing, and then for Cas to be ordered to kill him..... SHUDDER. That was some strong stuff.

O_O
hells_half_acre
Jan. 17th, 2013 07:13 pm (UTC)
Agreed. :(
borgmama1of5
Jan. 18th, 2013 04:26 am (UTC)
I can't think of anything to say other than the you-ness of your review made me smile :)
hells_half_acre
Jan. 18th, 2013 06:31 am (UTC)
Awww, that's sweet of you! I'm glad I can make you smile by just being me :)
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