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Oh man....

Ben Edlund, you both amuse and destroy.

Before we get going - I really liked the way they did the scene transitions in the THEN. It was cool.

So, the beginning...and the "glampers" - let me just say how much I loved how ridiculous that was. They brought a generator and a BED FRAME "camping." My university flatmate and I used to get into arguments about what "real" camping was. She thought camping was when you parked a trailer somewhere. To me, camping was fitting whatever you could into a canoe, along with four kids, and paddling until your arms hurt and the only non family member around was a moose.

Anyway, I got off topic there.

We finally see why we haven't been seeing motel rooms in the last few episodes...they haven't been staying in them. I liked actually getting to see them getting an abandoned house ready - even if the electricity promptly failed. I also loved how when Bobby didn't know what a "glamper" was, Dean just said "Sam" and Sam explained it...while looking amused. Awww, brothers.

I also liked Dean's speech about how maybe the world WANTED to die. Hahaha...I know Bobby didn't like it, but I thought it was hilarious. Like all of Ben Edlund's episodes, this episode had so many great lines. The only reference I didn't get was Bobby mentioning Anne Sexton, because I can't remember who that is or what she does.

And then we get to Biggerson's.... I had a feeling that Ranger Rick being "stoned" would be a plot point, and then when Dean REALLY enjoyed his sandwich, I thought that was suspicious too, but I did not put the two together until Dean started acting stoned and then one of my friends said "The sandwich!"  

Oh oh...and I almost forgot the waiter dude! I forget what Dean's lame comeback was, but I love Sam's encouraging line afterwards, about how it wasn't the best comeback, but Dean sure put that guy in his place, or whatever...man, I wish I could remember lines, but I can't! 

Dean being stoned was hilarious. But I'm getting ahead of myself - first, they go hunting!

I liked the little back story about the boys hunting with their Uncle Bobby as kids...and how it was actually Bobby who trained them in tracking. I also liked Bobby saying that he could never get either of them to kill a deer. And Dean still defending himself saying that it's Bambi...I just like the idea of the big tough hunters being all like "Nooo, don't shoot the cute little deer!" And of course, on the flip-side, I also loved Bobby's line "You don't shoot Bambi, you shoot Bambi's mother." Awesome.

Bobby was VERY awesome this episode...and that really should have been my first hint...but, we'll get to that...

The gross gooey guy that they shot out of the tree was...well, gross. Sam and Bobby dissecting him and then Dean being all stoned in the background was also hilarious...and gross.

I also like Sam and Bobby slowly coming to the realization that there was something wrong with Dean, and then once they get to Biggersons, coming to the realization about WHAT was wrong with Dean. And then...yeah...stoned Dean is funny, but I said that already. I do like the fact that while stoned, Dean actually mentions the things that are weighing on him...mainly Cas. 

I liked Bobby and Sam talking while Dean is sleeping in the truck. Sam still sees Lucifer, but he doesn't mind, because all things considered it's probably the best-case scenario for him. Again, I've said this before, Supernatural is really a story about a Pessimist and an Optimist on the road together. :P  I loved Bobby's line about how Sam's always been "deep"...again, can't remember the line exactly, but it was both amusing, and affectionate. I also liked how Bobby pointed out that all Sam and Dean do is worry about each other and never think about themselves...which, you know, probably leads to all the reasons why they worry about each other.

Anyway, we find out that Doctor Leviathan has moved into the meat-packing industry...and is trying to come up with a formula to keep humans overweight and docile (basically, like cattle...which makes sense). Only, the formula isn't so great, and every once in a while you get a Reaver...I mean...a gooey super-strong man-eating monster. Interesting.

Then Sam goes off and Bobby and Dean get to have their heart-to-heart, now that Dean isn't stoned anymore. And Bobby tells Dean to stop being a hopeless suicide risk....and Dean listens, because that's what Dean does when it comes to Bobby.

And then of course, the shit hits the fan. Dick shows up. We get a short lesson on who he is...with badly photoshopped pictures. I mean...I guess they are short on time, but sometimes I think Supernatural should hire a fan or two to do their photoshopping, because I've seen better than that in fanart-manips (and I hate manips, so I don't actually look at them that often).

I loved Dean's line about Crowley saying he hated Dick - "I thought he meant in general..."  Haha

Anyway, Dick "bibs" the doctor leviathan for making the papers...and we finally find out what "bibbing" means and why the leviathans are scared of it...apparently they can EAT THEMSELVES. Does this mean that the doctor leviathan is dead? And, also, how can their only be goo left? I mean...there's a logistical problem with eating yourself.

And then Bobby gets captured...and all is lost! Only it's not, because although Bobby says that Dean and Sam aren't stupid enough to try a rescue, THEY ARE! And they succeed! ALMOST.


I knew, as soon as Dick fired that shot at the closing sliding door...but geez....there's a HOLE IN BOBBY'S HAT...and the boys don't realize right away...and then we just get them yelling for Bobby as it fades to black, and... NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo........................

I was wondering, because this season was supposed to be about taking everything away from them...and I thought "are they going to take away Bobby?" and then they took away Bobby's house, and I thought "Ok...ok...maybe just Bobby's house then..." but it seems we are not that lucky. What on earth are they going to do without Bobby?!?! And...man.... I can't believe I have to wait 2 weeks to find out what happens...and then a month to find out what happens after that...because I highly doubt they'll leave the mid-season finale on a high note, seeing as how they never have before...which, doesn't bode well for Bobby.

Man, I didn't talk about much with this episode...this is a pretty short post in comparison to most of my quick reactions. I must be forgetting a lot...

I will say that it's always nice to have an Edlund episode. He writes such great lines, and they are very well spaced. As I've been working on my vid, I've been watching some episodes from S4 and S5...actually, S4's On The Head of a Pin especially (which is another Edlund episode), and I realized as I was going through it, that it is filled with these great moments of silence, or slow conversation...and it gives so much more reality and weight to the moment, and I think that's been lacking with the last few MOTW episodes. The things we say between words, I guess. And this episode didn't have as much as OTHoaP of course, but it had a bit...and I guess I'm saying that Edlund really knows how to write conversations - funny or serious. You really hang on every word in them. 

So, great episode. 

Oh! The PLANS! That's another thing we don't know if Bobby is...um...unavailable to us. What was in those plans in Dick's briefcase?! Why was Bobby so frightened of them?! Because he was frightened of them - you could see it in his eyes and in his hands...and man...he's the only one who saw them!


Ok, I think that's it.

Is it Dec. 2nd yet?


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Nov. 19th, 2011 07:28 am (UTC)
Yay! I loved this one :) Dean: "Guys, I think you pissed off my sandwich." Hee! Stoned!Dean is VERY AMUSING.

And the sad parts were really sad, but I'm glad this stuff is getting talked about finally. But BOOOOOBBYYYYY! NO! I have no idea if he's really dead or not, and I'm resolving to stay spoiler-free if I can. It's very tense!

Anne Sexton was a suicidal American poet from the 50s. A typical example - http://poemhunter.com/poem/wanting-to-die-3/

Anyway, last week didn't do much for me, for various reasons, but this one was awesome. Huzzah!
Nov. 19th, 2011 07:34 am (UTC)
Stoned Dean was great...and you know, made me wonder if maybe every few weeks Sam and Dean should smoke a joint just to help with the stress a little. :P Mind you, if they got the paranoia side-effect, that could potentially be catastrophic.

I watched the promo for next week...but yeah, I still have no idea if Bobby is dead or not, and I also plan to stay spoiler free, if possible.

Even if he lives though, I don't think you just bounce back from a gunshot wound to the head. :(

Ah, thanks for telling me who Anne Sexton was. That makes sense.

I tell you, Edlund always delivers. I really hope he never leaves the show for other things. I would miss him terribly (I'd probably still watch the show though, I'd just miss him.)
Nov. 19th, 2011 07:32 am (UTC)
I am clinging to the faint hope that because Bobby saw the plans he isn't dead because he has to tell the boys about them.

Faint, faint hope...
Nov. 19th, 2011 07:35 am (UTC)
Yes, that is also my faint hope... but, yeah...you don't just bounce back from a gunshot wound to the head. I have a feeling next episode will be an entire hour of me wanting to crawl into the TV and hug fictional characters.
Nov. 19th, 2011 04:30 pm (UTC)
I'll be crawling there with ya! But I think Mama's right; Bobby's got the intel; HE MUST LIIIIIIVE!
Nov. 19th, 2011 07:50 am (UTC)
The plans are one major reason I don't think Bobby's going to die yet. It would be one thing if that plotline came up at the beginning of an ep--plans fall into Bobby's hands, he calls the boys, they can't get to him in time and the plans are destroyed with him, woe is everyone but at least they know the plans existed. They have done that before. But to show that at the *end* of the ep, when the boys don't even know Bobby found that info? I just don't see Edlund writing a plot point that would go nowhere if Bobby actually died now.
Another major reason, though, is that I strongly suspect that Dean's going to call up Death and offer to die in Bobby's place. How that will turn out, I don't know, but I just can't see Dean letting Bobby stay dead. Not now.

Dean's take on the world wanting to end intrigues me, though, because I've been wondering for a while--and even mentioned the question in the last bit of meta I wrote and in "Mirror"--how much longer that universe can exist in its current destabilized state before it implodes, what with God being gone, a power vacuum in Heaven, interdimensional rifts being opened in rapid succession, etc. Dean may be looking at it through the lens of despair, but I'm not so sure he's wrong.
Nov. 19th, 2011 07:54 am (UTC)
True. It'd be different if Bobby mentioned the plans - if they knew there were plans that they needed to discover...but the fact that their still in the dark is a good sign that Bobby will live to tell the tale...though, I don't see this being as easy a recovery as they usually have on the show. Not without Cas around.

I don't see Dean calling up Death - but the show could always surprise me, and Dean is always very volatile and unpredictable in grief...still, Dean learnt his lesson in deals, I think, and especially after Bobby told him that he didn't want Dean to die first.

I'm not sure I agree with you (or Dean) about the world either, but I'm willing to be proven wrong there, and I don't have a counter theory to offer....so, we'll have to wait and see on that one. ;)
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:12 am (UTC)
No, you're right, I don't think it'll be an easy recovery. And the rest? Pure speculation on my part. We'll see what happens. :)
Nov. 19th, 2011 09:25 am (UTC)
"Bobby was VERY awesome this episode...and that really should have been my first hint...but, we'll get to that..."
Whenever a character that isn't Sam or Dean has a tender moment I immediately perk up and think, 'oh no.' Supernatural's trained me well. Yeah, there were a lot of great Bobby moments with the boys, really touching! Especially delving into their past with Uncle Bobby.

Oh man, Stoned!Dean was awesome. It may be because I smoke a bit of weed myself that I find that shit hilarious, but man. I pretty much squee'd the entire time.

Is it weird that I get a lot of pleasure of them using Bigerson's over and over? I mean, I frickin' love that they have their own fake chain restaurant that serves up American obesity. It's like Denny's minus a lawsuit!

I also was questioning on if they were taking Bobby away this season. I'm still really scared because it sounds like there won't be any definitive answers by the end of the mid season finale. And after listening to the podcast with Guy Bee, it could go either way. He's really good at freaking you out without actually spoiling anything.

I have to say I was really happy with this episode. Strong writing and character direction, and intriguing the entire way through. What a ride!
Nov. 19th, 2011 09:33 am (UTC)
Yeah, I guess I just got used to Bobby being "safe" that the tender moments didn't trigger the usual "oh no" reaction in me until that very final scene.

I don't smoke weed myself, but man, I wouldn't mind if Dean did. ;)

I love the fact that they have their own restaurant chain too. Mainly because it adds richness to the universe. This isn't the first time they've used Acme cleaning as well. I love things that carry through like that.

I haven't listened to the podcast with Guy Bee yet. Hopefully I'll have time this weekend... but yeah, as I said in the post, they never end the mid-season finale on a good note, so I can only assume that there either won't be a definitive answer, or something bad will happen.

Awesome episode indeed.
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Nov. 19th, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC)
Oh man! I had forgotten about "The Rise of Dick" HILARIOUS.

Yeah, I was suspicious as soon as Dean made such a big deal about how delicious it was...yet then I got a bit caught up and forgot...but it was fun to see the boys slowly come to the realization.

Yeah, even if Bobby dies, he could come back...but the dead don't come back as frequently or as easily (or as human) as the living. So, I'd prefer if Bobby stayed living. ;)
Nov. 19th, 2011 10:33 am (UTC)
Gah! So worried about Bobby. :(
They're taking everything away from the boys this season, but why does it have to be Bobby, too? *cries*

The next eppie (in 2 weeks) is going to be intense.

I just finished my own review and I missed a lot of lines myself. Stoned!Dean was a riot. I bet Jensen had fun with that. *g*

And I love Edlund's writing, but I must admit that the witty dialog was getting to be a bit much for me. Does every line have to have a punch line? Can't the guys just talk normally from time to time? Maybe it's just me, but I found myself tiring of it just a bit in this ep. It's my only complaint though. Oh, and the grey gooey sandwich was absolutely disgusting. Bleh.
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)
We'll have to agree to disagree with Edlund. Though, it's a matter of taste really. I love the way Edlund writes a conversation.

I am so worried about Bobby too! I'm going to be on the edge of my seat for two weeks, and then probably for the whole month after that while I wait for the show in January. :P
Nov. 19th, 2011 12:48 pm (UTC)
I agree this was an incredible episode, touching on everyone's issues (Sam's summary definitely the best) and Bobby goodness all around. Maybe I should have sensed that was going to be an issue but I don't recognize a setup when I see one. The cliffhanger was awesome and the Leviathan plans insidious (people as cattle). While Bobby was not able to take away the files, I think that is too key a point to have him die without passing the information to Sam and Dean.

Bonus: You used Jann Arden lyrics for your cut. Love that song!
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:53 pm (UTC)
Haha, Jann Arden comes up on my ipod a lot...most of the time, her lyrics don't really suit the episode. ;)

I really enjoyed Sam's summary with Bobby too. And yeah, I did not recognize the set-up either.

And yes, I'm resting a bit easier knowing that Bobby still has knowledge that he has to impart...which means, one way or another, Bobby's got to live.
Nov. 19th, 2011 01:14 pm (UTC)
I did love stoned Dean...and that his voice was in the normal register instead of all deep and gravelly.

Bobby...I just rewatched and I wonder if it's even Bobby that made it to the van. When he was with Lev!Dick, he told Bobby "we could be you, if you were worth the time and effort". And we did lose sight of Bobby there at the end of the rescue...

I can see the Leviathans thinking that losing Bobby would destroy Sam and Dean...and sending in a Leviathan Bobby. They'd also have a spy in the other camp.

I don't know...it seemed odd that Sam and Dean and Bobby wouldn't all leave at the same time, and it was a very choppy scene at the end, where Bobby was alone, confronted by leviathans, then suddenly he was running out of the warehouse, with Dick behind him. One of those things that make you go "hmm..."

That photoshopping was HORRIBLE! And cheesy.
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:51 pm (UTC)
When he was with Lev!Dick, he told Bobby "we could be you, if you were worth the time and effort". And we did lose sight of Bobby there at the end of the rescue...

The blood on the hat was blood though..the leviathans always bleed black inky stuff.

Still, it's an interesting theory...and would mean that maybe Bobby is alright somewhere.

It WAS choppy at the end though...I don't know that's just the directing or the editing, or if it was done on purpose. I mean, Bobby wasn't THAT far behind them, yet they had time to get the van and pull up to the door before he came out...it's either a suspension of disbelief, or it's a clue. (and both are possible on this show ;)
Nov. 19th, 2011 06:01 pm (UTC)
No, WHAT???? We have to wait TWO weeks???? Shit, I forgot about that. Stupid useless holidays *frowns*

Man, I was SPEECHLESS after this episode. And ... well, there was a uh, she called it a "fic" but it was really a rant about how bad last episode was and how she didn't want to ever watch again and a lot of crying and complaining - and because I really HATE when people try to make me dislike what I actually liked, I was sitting on my couch after watching and I thought "HA! I hope you little cry-baby kept true to your word and will NEVER watch that awesome episode!"

Yes, I'm completely mean and vindicative of people who spoil my fun...

Anyway, the story was awesome, the photoshop... well. Not mentioning that :-D but the villain-Dick is a fiiiiiine creepy character.
Eating yourself is probably not possible in its entirety, but maybe Dick and his assistant had a bite as well?

And... BOBBYYYYY *cries*

Noooo, don't be dead! I loved you, I actually said "awww" when he told Dean that he'd kill him if Dean died before he did.
I loved the dissecting and stoned-Dean was a joy. And HOLY shit, that zombie-burger-man waking up on the table - I nearly peed my pants. Haven't been shocked like that in ages.

In short: awesome episode. Evil cliffhanger. *prays a little*
Nov. 19th, 2011 06:14 pm (UTC)
btw, I know it might be completely thought with pink glasses, but maybe Bobby wasn't actually in his cap while the bullet tore through? So he might be injured but not a head-wound? Maybe? maybe Sam has a hole in his leg?

But when Bobby didn't escape with the Winchesters, I was pretty sure that SOMETHING would happen to him. He has to at least stay breathing long enough to tell them about the plan - he might still die afterwards (I sure hope not!)
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:44 pm (UTC)
I sure hope not too!

I think Bobby was definitely shot. Haha, I doubt Sam wouldn't notice himself getting shot. :P
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:48 pm (UTC)
Yeah, American Thanksgiving...apparently, it's a pretty big deal down there. :P

Oh man, I hope that girl didn't watch too - I HATE when people try to make me dislike things and write rants and disguise them as "fic" or "meta."

I loved how instantaneous their reaction was when that zombie-burger-man woke up on the table. It was a jump scare, but in regular horror movies, that's when the zombie-burger-man would have killed one of them - in this case, we get to see three highly trained people pump him full of bullets before they even really realize what they are doing. :P

I REALLY looking forward to next episode. I know it'll probably end on a cliff-hanger too, but...but...BOBBY!!!
Nov. 19th, 2011 06:09 pm (UTC)
Wow, I had lots of the same reactions as you.

I knew as soon as Dick put that gun in the back of his pants that one of the guys was going to get shot, then when Bobby was running to the van I knew it'd be him. It's Bobby knowing the plans that makes me think he's going to live-for a bit. But I think ultimately he's going to die from this in the next episode. But I could be wrong.
Nov. 19th, 2011 08:43 pm (UTC)
I don't know about that...if Bobby HAS been shot in the head, and lives, I see coma-Bobby, then slow-recovery Bobby...and then Bobby able to tell the boys about the plans in episode 20....and then hopefully not dying.

But, maybe that's just because I don't want Bobby to die. :(
Nov. 20th, 2011 09:04 am (UTC)
Reavers, lulz. Close enough right? And I'm thinking the show threw us a bone by letting us have the Dec. 2 ep because don't they normally just go ahead and go to holiday hiatus for Thanksgiving on? IDK but I'm with you, NO KILLING BOBBY!!
Nov. 20th, 2011 11:47 pm (UTC)
I'm super nervous about Bobby, I gotta say.

And yeah, usually they do just stop at Thanksgiving...but they started pretty late in the September, and I think that's why we're getting the episode on Dec. 2nd. They usually always do 10 episodes in the fall and 12 episodes in new year. (though last year was 11/11)
Nov. 21st, 2011 01:03 am (UTC)
We're getting an extra episode this year too so maybe that's why since they started late too. idk.. In SO much denial about Bobby.
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