Ok! Back to funny...
More complicated clothes in this one. Sam has a new plaid shirt (bless the boy, but I am running out of plaid shirt descriptions.)
Anyway, let's get started...
Ellen!! I love you. Uh, sorry, it's just that she kicks off the THEN.
Oh yeah, mousetrap/rubegoldberg-machine death... I actually love deaths like this, it's a clever use of expectation and suspense.
I don't think a garage door could ACTUALLY decapitate you...it could probably break your neck though, which is pretty bad anyway.
*mouthing* "Say something"
*mouthing* "No, you!"
- I love this. It's like those little parts of Bugs that I like when it's just subtle, but you are like "oh, brothers, so adorable."
First sign that something was fishy - Dean wins with scissors! I remember when I watched this, I was like "WHAT?!?" Hahaha, I love that the show has character-things like that - I mean, someone just tuning in wouldn't know what it meant, but a lot of the fanbase shared my reaction, I'm sure.
"Bobby, you haven't slept in days."
"*mumbles* sleep - what are you my wife now?"
-I'll come back to this, but I love this line because 1)We'll come back to it at the very end of the episode, and 2)On first viewing it's just sarcasm, on second viewing, it's sarcasm with a hint. ;)
"You know when I realized Rufus was done for? The day I met him, it was only a question of who first, him or me. Now do you want to stand there and therapize or do you want to get me some coffee? Make it Irish."
- Dean comes from a long line of people who make bad alcohol decisions.
- On another note: Bobby has a point - when you are in a field of work with a high death rate, people assume (or you assume yourself) that you should be able handle it, that you should be prepared. Of course, we all know (hopefully) that's not true. You still feel the loss just as strongly.
It might just be me, but the boys seem more settled and stable in the alternate universe as well...maybe because Ellen is still alive and living with Bobby? (and of course, Jo is still alive too.) Or maybe I've just gotten used to them being HORRIBLY broken, and this is a sweet spot between Sam being soulless and Sam's wall breaking down and Dean being horribly betrayed by his best friend.
Mustang! This was the BIGGEST "what the f*ck?!" moment and the give-away that the world had changed. I sort of noticed when they were in the car, because they are more squished together than usual.
"Tell me you haven't been drinking this whole time."
"You're worse than the boys..."
-Aww, it's like they're a family (and they are) and just... ELLEN, WHY'D YOU HAVE TO LEAVE US?!?!?!
"Anybody ever tell you you're a pain in the ass?"
"That's why you married me."
-And they are MARRIED. I wonder how that worked out.. Anyway, I remember at this point, it was "Definitely an alternate universe." I love that in Supernatural AUs are canon.
-I love how Sam knows how to test for gold - I didn't even know how to test for gold (<---I love how I say that like I'm supposed to know everything. Arrogant.) ((Ok, now I am taking notes on my notes...I am obviously going insane))
"There's definitely a skeleton in this family's closet. I mean, accidents just don't happen accidentally!...you know what I mean!"
- I love Dean.
"Was anyone ever killed or maimed in a war or...some other violent thing?"
"What do you mean?"
"Like something so dark that it would sully future generations?"
"Good, good stuff. Anyone own a slave?"
"Routine question. Any ties to the Nazi party?"
"Did grandma ever piss off a gypsy?"
- Hahahaah, I really think Dean should have gotten Sam to do this interview. I love his "routine questions"
"Ok, I'll just cut to the chase here - your life is in danger."
"What? What is that a threat? Are you threatening me?"
"No, I'm not threatening you, I'm just simply saying that if you don't watch your back, you're going to die."
- Hehehe, like I said, maybe Sam would have been a better choice.
I love the posters in the travel agent's place: Cuba: America's #1 destination and Detroit: voted America's top city! And she's trying to sell Havana on the phone, and it's great...especially since Cuba is a pretty damn popular place for Canadian to hang out....mainly because there are very few Americans, the Cubans probably hate us, because it's not like we're any better.
Ellen: "Oh don't worry, I'm kicking his ass back to health and happiness"
Bobby: "I heard that, who asked you to, the hell with you!"
Dean: "I heard that."
Ellen: "He'll be ok."
Dean: "Are you ok?"
Ellen: "Aw, honey, you're sweet. You know me, I just worry about you boys."
-Oh Ellen, how they need you. I was just talking about this a little with special_k414
in the comments of my previous rewatch, but one of the themes or subjects continuously explored in Supernatural to me is masculinity in the absence of the feminine. Basically, the show is a tragedy about men who cannot keep females in their life. It's what they want, but they are always denied it. Supernatural is a great exploration of masculinity in the modern era, and one of the ways they explore it in the show is by isolating it very severely. Ellen, to me, in this episode, isn't so much Ellen as a representation of what the boys crave (Bobby too) and that is for a feminine influence to love them and look after/out-for them. She is what they cannot have. She is what they continually fail to protect. There's a metaphor in there somewhere.
"It's a boat. It did what boats do."
- I like this line. It's true. Nothing (and no one) ever becomes famous for doing what it's (they're) supposed to do.
"This first mate, Mr. IP Freely."
"Well that's not suspicious. You got a picture of Mr. Freely?"
"You gotta be kidding me."
-I love how Balthazar is basically the angelic/adult version of Bart Simpson.
"Why did you unsink the ship?"
"Because I hated the movie."
"So you saved a cruise liner because-"
"Because that god awful Celine Dion song made me want to smite myself."
"Who's Celine Dion?"
"Oh, she's a destitute lounge singer somewhere in Quebec, and lets keep it that way please."
- I have never seen Titanic, and I don't ever plan to. I remember when the poster came out. "She lives. He dies," I said, "the boat sinks. I have better things to spend $8 on." Man, remember when movies were only $8? Those were the days...also, I am not a fan of Celine Dion.
"You totally butterfly-effected history!"
"Dude, dude, rule one, no Kutcher references."
- I love that they have a RULE...haha, I'm sure he was just using that as an expression, but it was hilarious.
"Like you don't drive an Impala...yes yes, what's an Impala, trust me, it's not important. And of course, Ellen and Jo are alive."
"Ellen and Jo are.."
"Yes yes, they're supposed to be dead."
-Um, excuse me, but the Impala is the MOST IMPORTANT OBJECT IN THE UNIVERSE! I kind of wish they had addressed that - but I guess in this universe, Sam bonded with the mustang and IT saved the world. Oh Sam, you are so capricious with your love.
"I'm sorry you have me confused with the other angel, the one in the dirty trench coat that's in love with you. I don't care."
-Yes, I know these comments are verging on fanservice - but even as a non-shipper, I love them.
"You know, the easiest way would just be to get that angel to resink the boat."
"Big difference between dying awful and never being born, Dean."
"We are not sinking the boat, Bobby, okay, don't even think about it."
-Part of me wonders if that line is significant...they keep bringing it up, ever since the fifth season...that it's better to have never been born. I wonder sometimes if it's foreshadowing, or if it's just coincidence, or if I'm just reading way too much into it...
"Ok, what's got your panties in a clench."
"Try that again."
-I love Bobby...also, Dean likes wearing panties *giggle*. (Seriously though, the Dean/Panties thing is the closest I get to a ship. I have such a thing for crossdressers...I really really wish 99% of them weren't gay.)
"Apparently a crap load of dominos get tipped over if the titanic goes down, and bottom line, Ellen and Jo die."
"Okay you two listen up, you make sure - keep those angels from sinking that boat, you understand me."
"He's bad enough with her, think how he'd be if she was gone."
-Think how you'd all be! But he still has you, at least.
I think that's the west side of Vancouver. I could be wrong....but it looks far richer than me. (I live on the east side, where the poor people are.)
The bus is Route 666 Haha! I didn't notice that the first time.
"Sam, check it out!"
*points to Russo advertisement*
"Yeah, Dean, I'm pretty sure 6 seconds is too soon."
- I think Sam and Dean have absolutely ZERO issues in this episode. It's so rare...and they are hilarious.
"Her? As in Fate her?"
"What'd she look like?"
"Kind of like a...librarian."
"Your kind of librarian or my kind of librarian?"
"Well, she was wearing clothes, if that's what you mean."
-Again, just funny.
You'd smell that much gas pretty much right away...but I guess it's all in the other room.
"Hey, thanks, man. Where are we?"
-You know, I kind of wish it was still called "White Russia", it's just...more romantic...like snow, and stuff. Also, technically the second time that Sam and Dean have been overseas!
"So what do we do?"
Cas: "Kill her."
-Oh man, you know, you start to get the feeling that things aren't what they seem when Cas suggests they kill Fate...well to me, anyway. I mean, it seems pretty drastic. But maybe I'm just looking at it with my hindsight goggles on.
"You need new friends, Cas."
"I'm trying to save the ones I have, Dean."
- I think Cas's friends need new friends. OUCH! BURN! Aww, ok, I feel bad...poor Cas, he is just a wayward angel making all the wrong choices. He needs a hug and an after school special. ("after school special" sounds like a good name for a marijuana brand....or something sexual, only, you know, among consenting people of a certain age.)
"Quickest fix is to just sink the boat."
"Why would you say that?"
"Well, cause right now people are dying bloody, not the same as never being born."
-Again, why do they keep repeating this? Is it just because it's true? But is it? Is it not better to have lived and lost than never to have lived at all? Oh wait, I'm getting my sayings confused.
"So, not just me, but Jo too."
"Their not going to sink the boat, I promise. The boat stays, you don't have to worry."
"Well, if it was meant to be, then I guess whatever happens happens."
"That's just my point, nothing's meant to be! Whether we're together isn't the whim of some dick angel."
- Technically, whether John and Mary were together was also the whim of some dick angel(s). It seems to be the way of their universe, whether or not they agree to it.
"I can't, we need you, especially me."
-And again, we return to the theme of them desperately wanting, but not being able to keep, women in their lives. It's why I don't really see the lack of women on the show as misogynistic. I know countless people disagree with me (and please not I will NOT be engaging in any sort of misogynistic debate in comments), but to me the show points to it's lack of women with a neon sign and says "this sucks!" The lack of women is part of the story they are telling. It's not incidental.
Whole tempting fate sequence is fantastic. I love it.
"I had a job. God gave me a job. We all had a script. I worked hard, I was really really good at what I did. Until the day of the big prize fate and then what happens? you throw out the book!"
"Well I'm sorry, but freedom is more preferable."
"Freedom? This is chaos, how is it better? I even went to heaven to see what to do next, and you know what? No one would even talk to me."
-This is really an age old debate. What's better freedom or control? How much do you balance the two? How much government interference is too much? How much is too little? Are humans inherently good or inherently evil? Is anarchy possible? Uh...I have no idea how to answer any of these questions.
"You sent him back to sink that ship."
"No I didn't, why would I"
-Cas has taken lying lessons from Sam, apparently. (As in, he is not very good at it.)
"No, you can't just mint money, Castiel. It's wrong, it's dangerous. And I won't let you."
- I wonder how the transaction worked. Because he saved them, were their souls somehow his? How did he get the power from this act? It's true though, you can't just mint money - that's the leading cause of hyperinflation, depressions, and subsequent totalitarian regimes.
"If you don't go back and sink that boat. I'm going to kill your two favourite pets."
"I won't let you."
- It's the ONE thing they can threaten him with really...and it does make my heart go out to Castiel. It's true he believes in freedom, and it's true he doesn't want to bow to Raphael anyway...but I still think he's really doing everything he'd doing because he is trying to save Dean and Sam. It's his base goal. It's just a shame that he is trying to save them without them having any imput into how he goes about it. It's Dean selling his soul for Sam all over again.
"You're not fighting a war or anything right? You can watch them at every moment of every day..."
-I'd like a universe where Castiel wasn't fighting a war and actually COULD watch them at every moment of every day. He really would be "the angel on their shoulder" that he got so pissed off at Dean for suggesting back in 4x02.
Haha, actually playing the Celine Song is brilliant, I had forgotten about that.
"Dude what time is it? I just had the weirdest dream"
"Twenty bucks says mine was weirder, I'm not kidding."
"No, mine was weirder. It was just...bizarre."
"Mine had the actual titanic in it....what? Something on my face?"
"Did it not sink? Because Balthazar-"
"Had a hate on for Billy Zane? Why are you having my dreams dude?!"
- I love this exchange - especially Dean's face at the end, and how he immediately assumes that it's Sam having Dean's dreams, and not the other way around. Sammy's the freak of the family after all. Oh Dean.
"I insisted he go back in time and correct what he had done."
"It was the only way to be sure you would be safe."
"So, you killed 50,000 people for us?"
"No, I didn't. They were never born. It's far different than being killed, wouldn't you say?"
- Repetition of that line. Also, when Sam suggests that Cas killed 50,000 people for them. I think he meant it was a "I'm touched, thank you" and Cas had this moment where he wanted to accept that gratefulness and feel like the big damn hero that he is trying to be, but it's all kind of a big lie, so he couldn't. (does that make any sense to anyone? Sometimes I feel like I don't make any sense.)
"Ellen and Jo?"
"Hold on...so if you guys went and changed everything back, then that whole timeline it just got erased?"
"Yeah, more or less."
"Well then how come he and I remember it?"
"Because I wanted you to remember it."
"I wanted you to know who fate really is. She's cruel and capricious."
"I'd go as far as bitch."
"Well, yeah, you're the ones that taught me that you can choose your own destiny. You don't have to be ruled by fate, you can choose freedom. I still believe that's something worth fighting for. I just wanted you to understand that."
- Cas just keeps setting up the background for them. He's laying out the reasons that he's doing what he is doing, but he isn't telling them WHAT he is doing. Basically, he is answering the question of WHY? without them knowing that it needs to be asked. And, I think he's doing this because he KNOWS that it's wrong, he KNOWS they are going to kick his ass...but he's in denial about it...he feels like maybe if he can just get them to the point where he was when he made the deal, they'll understand and not be mad, but that's not going to happen. Sam was mad when Dean made his deal...Dean was made when Sam drank demon-blood to try to protect Dean....and Sam and Dean are both going to be mad when they find out Castiel's shenanigans.
"So, wait, did Balthazar really unravel this sweater over a chick-flick."
"Yes, absolutely, that's what he did."
"Well, might be time to take away his cable privaledges. Besides, Titanic didn't suck THAT bad. Winslet's rack?"
"I tell you one thing about Cas, he does not appreciate the finer things."
-I think Castiel disappears because if he stayed a minute longer they would have realized he is full of shit.
"I guess things are back to normal, huh"
"Poor bastard, doesn't even know how good he had it."
"Well, what he doesnt know can't hurt him. I say we keep our mouths shut."
"Yeah, should we wake him?"
"No, this is probably the best he's felt all week."
*Dean covers sleeping Bobby with a blanket*
-Ok, so now we circle back to the 'what are you, my wife?" line...because, I'm not saying that Dean is Bobby's wife - but he is Bobby's family. And in the absence of Bobby's wife, he (and Sam) are the people who step up to help and look after Bobby.
Ok, SUPPER TIME, I will type this up LATORZ....
-Why did I actually write this in my notes? No one reads these things but me before I type them up properly. Um, anyway, since it's there: Dinner was delicious. I had leftover Channa Masala.
In other news, my ankle (or as I like to call it "the last remnant of VanCon2011") is improving quickly! Yay! The bad news, of course, is that means that my time with the cute physiotherapist guy is finite. I posted about it on facebook, and my uncle wrote: "Perhaps you should go for a walk along the cobblestone streets of Gastown to contemplate your predicament." Hahaha.
Tune in tomorrow for Frontierland!