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In my personal Fanon, Dean spent a long period of time (somewhere in his teens/early twenties) living in New York City.

For some reason there was a period of time when John had to spend a while in New York - he moved himself and Dean and Sam into a predominately Jewish neighbourhood. Although Dean never really liked the big city, he acclimatized to his little neighbourhood and before long he was able to fit right in (as he is always able to do). He was just another one of the boys. He possibly also attended hebrew school along with his friends - either because John thought it was a good learning opportunity, or because Dean just wandered in one day and no one kicked him out.

The reason this is my fanon is because of Dean's tendency to use Jewish phrases. Out of the two brothers, it's Dean, not Sam, who uses them the most. Why New York: Dean's phone number for a good long time started with a New York area-code - indicating to me that he might have been in New York in the mid-to-late 90s, when personal cell phones started to become more common...and he liked his time there enough that he kept the number for nostaligic purposes.

It's likely that Sam was there too, but Sam, as always, had a harder time fitting in and making friends. He was envious of Dean and didn't like New York at all  - or wouldn't have, except for the museums and library. Sam spent most of his time alone, or tagging along with Dean and his friends. These days though, Sam looks back on those days fondly. Dean, of course, has long since lost touch with all his friends. He never said goodbye - he just slipped out in the middle of the night as always and that was that.



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Sep. 11th, 2011 10:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, I like this idea!! Very interesting and fits the characters of both boys.
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:13 am (UTC)
Thanks :)
Sep. 11th, 2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
Ooh. ♥
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:13 am (UTC)
Sep. 11th, 2011 11:27 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I like it though because I'm from New York(not NYC though).

Though I don't recall any Jewish phrases-though that could be because I know no one that is Jewish. There's no community around here (my rural area).
Sep. 11th, 2011 11:44 pm (UTC)
Dean esp uses the sort of yiddish words that are not uncommon - such as bupkis - he also makes reference to Purim and uses words like dayenu which would be rare for a non-Jew to use.
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Sep. 11th, 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
I am really intrigued with this fanon and would love to read a story or two revolving around this idea. Dean has always acclimated easily to whatever circumstance and situation they found themselves in. And Dean never saying goodbye? Instead just slipping away quietly. I think that was his way of dealing with the loss of friends. I believe that deep down he felt these losses tremendously, but just couldn't dwell on any of it because of the nature of their lifestyle. He always felt he had to keep the facade up for Sam, and in part for John as well, but we all know how underneath all the bravado and tough exterior is just a man-boy in a lot of pain. And my heart goes out to him and breaks for him deeply.
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:12 am (UTC)
Yeah, me too - I'm not sure I should be the one to write it though, since I don't actually know that much about the Jewish community. I had a few Jewish friends in High School, but that was a long time ago at this point.

And yes, I think Dean never kept in touch for a reason, never let anyone too close - it would just make it harder - the losses always there, the lies always between them. It was easier to put on a brave face and pretend that he never missed anyone, that he didn't care that they never stayed anywhere. In my head, Dean would not have wanted to stay in NYC anyway, but he would have still felt the loss of the friendships he formed there - he would still think of them years later with regret and love.
Sep. 11th, 2011 11:53 pm (UTC)
I like this head canon very much! Of course Dean being Dean I like to think maybe a girl was involved too. I can imagine her family being rather suspicious of this shegetz but I figure Dean would charm them over! Plus I can imagine him being every impressed with Jewish food! - maybe he got a job in a bagel shop ;D

I did start doing research for a fic about Moishe Campbell and his fictional sister and did discover a fascinting history of Jews in Kansas!
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:08 am (UTC)
I did start doing research for a fic about Moishe Campbell and his fictional sister and did discover a fascinting history of Jews in Kansas!

Cool! I had this head-canon before the mention of Moishe, but that just added to it - because then I pictured that Dean might have actually been hanging out with third or fourth cousins unknowingly or something. Haha, though, NYC is a VERY big place.

Of course Dean being Dean I like to think maybe a girl was involved too. I can imagine her family being rather suspicious of this shegetz but I figure Dean would charm them over!

Haha, yes! I pictured the exact same thing - Dean would be the talk of the neighbourhood, but everyone would just end up loving him. :)

And mmm...bagels. I've put on about 4 pounds recently, and I think it's entirely due to me indulging in my love for bagels.
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:03 am (UTC)
Hmmm, your fanon is entirely believable. :)
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:05 am (UTC)
Thanks :) I'm usually a stickler for canon, so when I do have a fanon, it's usually not that "out there" :P
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:40 am (UTC)
I like the idea, but I have to disagree with one part of it.

Where you said that Sam had a harder time making friends than Dean. I'd say it's the other way around. Sure, Dean gets the cool new kid label easily. But he's not all that inclined to easily make new friends. When he does, it's rarer, and they mean more to him.

Whereas Sam easily fits in, and makes new friends easily.

Now it could be that part of Dean's attachment to New York would be because for once he did make friends, something he tries to avoid. And actually got attached to them.
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:52 am (UTC)
Oh, I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Though, I will clarify that I didn't mention how superficial/intimate these friendships would be (on either of the boys parts).

I think Dean is very good at fitting in and making superficial friends. I think Sam is very good at making intimate friends, but it's a harder feat to accomplish - also, moving given Sam's moodiness and depending on the school, he might not find anyone with whom he connects. I think Sam's continuing angst about being "the freak" stems from somewhere, and I think it's that he didn't have that easy of a time every time they moved around as a kid. Sometimes he'd get lucky, but other times he just wouldn't find anyone.

But hey, these are just my opinions. You certainly are entitled to your own. :)

But yes, I see Dean's attachment to New York as being SOLELY because of the friendships he made there - like I said, I really don't see Dean as someone who would enjoy living in a big city.
Sep. 12th, 2011 04:06 am (UTC)
Interesting theory!

Preseries fics are fun because we have just enough canon to work from but still have a lot of freedom to put the boys in situations that lead to them becoming the characters we meet in the pilot.
Sep. 12th, 2011 04:16 am (UTC)
Very true!

Though one of my pet-peeves is people using demons in pre-series fics...because we know from Phantom Traveler that they had never encountered one until then.

I've always been tempted to do a Timeling-of-Knowledge, but I kind of already do a lot of insane 'tracking' things for this show. :P
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Sep. 12th, 2011 04:34 am (UTC)
I can totally buy this along with them having someone's Bubbe come and check on them when John's running late or out for the day. ♥
Sep. 12th, 2011 04:41 am (UTC)
Haha, yup - it's RICH for fic-writing, I tell ya.
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Sep. 12th, 2011 10:09 am (UTC)
I love love love how your brian works. Seriously. :D
Sep. 12th, 2011 07:12 pm (UTC)
Thanks! Me too! Haha :)
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Sep. 12th, 2011 07:14 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not saying it has to be fact...if the writers decide to do an episode where Dean declares boldly that he has never been to NYC, then I'll be disappointed, but not outraged. For some reason I just like this idea.
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Sep. 13th, 2011 11:39 am (UTC)
funniest thing is - judaism DOESN`T HAVE HELL! so, the question is if dean was converted jew, where would he go to Hell or to Sheol?
Sep. 13th, 2011 05:07 pm (UTC)
Haha, well, I never said Dean was a converted Jew - I just said that he hung out in the community.

Also, sadly, I think that in Supernatural "reality" trumps religion, so even though someone might not believe in Hell, doesn't mean that they can't end up there.
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Nov. 15th, 2013 07:30 am (UTC)
Huh, you know I actually missed that Dean does this... but then again I grew up in a Jewish community and the use of those phrases and other cues are my 'norm', it's the 'everyday' thing that I honestly only notice the lack of... Although it was south Florida for me, not New York City.
Nov. 15th, 2013 07:53 am (UTC)
Cool. Yeah, it stands out to me because I didn't grow up in a Jewish community (though I had enough Jewish friends that I can recognize the references when they come up and get a little nostalgic about hearing my friends argue about what was and wasn't appropriate to wear to the synagogue.)

But yeah, really, it could have been anywhere - I just picked New York because of the phone number, and I thought it'd be more likely that Dean might cling to a particular community in a more populated (easy to get lost in) city.
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