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Quick Reaction: 6x03 The Third Man

Hey folks...I'm  home from my friend's place. This time, I made a Supernatural playlist to listen to while I walked there and back. It's the Supernatural soundtrack interspersed with classic rock songs. Let me just say, there's nothing quite like walking home in the dark while listening to the Supernatural soundtrack. Haha

Anyway, on with the episode....

It's a test of my memory on wine tonight...let's see...

We begin with a GROSS opener. Super gross!! I had to watch through my hand.

Then we get Dean in bed...shirtless. Not to objectify him or anything, but...umm...that was a nice treat. Also, dude, if that's how Lisa wakes Dean up, I think *I* want to marry her. Sadly, Dean's not actually in bed with Lisa, he's on River Road. I was just there last weekend, as fate would have it...small world. (There's a sunken boat there that's good fodder for my sister's art).

Sam's in Pennsylvania. When Dean gets there, he's on the phone with Ben, because Ben broke something and isn't telling his mum...ah parenting. Sam is also tickled by this. Sam's sort of odd - I mean, he wanted Dean to have a normal life, but now he seems confused that Dean is actually parenting and stuff. But, Sam is odd for a lot of reasons. Oh hey, I'm forgetting something....

What the heck was up with Sam and that woman? Oh...also...um...shirtless Jared was VERY nice...not to objectify him of course, but I am totally objectifying him....and he has the tattoo, CLEARLY. So, yay body-continuity! They may not do it with bullet wounds, but they'll at least always keep their tattoos. I've digressed though - Sammy never paid for sex before...so what are your theories? New Sammy, new stance on prostitution? My friend thought maybe he was paying her for something else, and we were only meant to assume it was sex...like demon-blood or something. I don't think Sam's on that train again though...so, I can only assume it was actual sex...but I'm sure there are other's with thoughts on this.

Anyway, back to where I was...I like Dean's comment about Sam's "plastic car". It's my main beef with modern American cars actually - too much plastic. I did like Sam's comeback about Dean's milage though...the truth hurts.

Oh yeah, boil-guy TOTALLY GROSS! UGH!

So, they go check out the dudes partner and it's TOTALLY GROSS! Also, WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU KEEP THE LOCUSTS?! BRAIN LOCUSTS!!?!?! GROSS!!! (sorry, I'm having too much fun yelling "gross"...in my head, I'm not actually talking out loud, that would be crazy).

Then we get to the action of the episode! CAS IS BACK! I was just as mad at Sam though, that Dean gets special treatment...and I had to laugh at the obvious fanservice line of "Dean and I share a special bond....I wasn't going to say anything" - hahaha.

Dean's little speech about how Sam THREW HIMSELF INTO HELL for them, and how Cas should have come when Sam called though really brought the point home that Castiel was a pretty big ass for not coming, even if he didn't know. However long Sam was in hell for, it was obviously long enough for Cas to forget how to be good friend.

I loved Cas' comments though - "I've spent the past year as a multidimensional wavelength of celestial intent". Awesome, totally answers my question about what angels look like while they're traveling. Also, his use of the quotey fingers while yelling about how his "people skills" are a bit "rusty", were awesome. Also, his continued annoyance when Dean uses references that he doesn't know.

So, it's the Staff of Moses...that's cool. Misha's analogy at ComicCon of heaven being like post-Soviet Russia is REALLY apt. Again, I have to say that I loved Cas' line of "I think we can rule out Moses as a suspect" - good to know! I think you might offend a few billion people if he WAS responsible.

Nope, the real culprit is an adorable little black kid, who just wanted to avenge his brother, and did so by SELLING HIS SOUL TO AN ANGEL?! Holy crow...Heaven is the new Hell. Angels are the new demons. Black is white. Up is down. Everything we know is wrong. So, naturally, Castiel kidnaps the kid and decides he should REACH INSIDE HIM and FEEL HIS SOUL.

I'm with Dean on that one...I mean, umm...as most of you know, I tend to think of possession as a metaphor for sexual assault...so, although, Dean equated this with torture....I was even more squicked by it. Anyway, unsurprisingly to us (because Sam is a cylon), but surprisingly to Dean, Sam does not protest. And Cas gets the information. It's Balthazar. (who was one of the wisemen, according to Wikipedia...which might explain why Castiel needed Myrrh). 

Oh, but first Mr. Smith attacks and him and Castiel FALL OUT A WINDOW ONTO SAM'S CAR! I can see what Jensen was saying about the scripts being a bit "bigger" under Sera. But Cas is fine, because he's an angel.

Anyway, I love the scene of Castiel figuring out where Balthazar is...because he's all flitting all over the place, and Dean and Sam are like "hold on, what? Hey that's our stuff? Wait, the kid? What the?" And poor Dean is the only compassionate member left on Team Free Will.

We get to Balthazar's house and Dean makes another cultural reference that Castiel doesn't really get. And it's kind of funny that Castiel is somewhat bonded to this human that he can barely understand half the time. Anywho, Balthazar has turned into a weapon's dealer/crossroads-angel...and Castiel is not impressed. Apparently Castiel and Balthazar go way back and were best-buddies at one point or another....that aside, Balthazar is not going to help a brother out. He's in it for himself...saying that he's leading off Castiel's example of exerting free will, but with only his own interests at heart. So, yeah...way to miss the point that Castiel was setting a more COMPASSIONATE example, not a "do what you want and create chaos" example. Poor Cas.

Raphael shows up and there's another angelic fist-fight. I will have to assume that Castiel gained the power of Explosion-Resistance when he was brought back the last time, because although Raphael still kicks Castiel's ass...Castiel's been exploded instantaneously by two arch-angels before...

Then Raphael gets turned to salt, and that's the end of Demore Barnes' Supernatural run...which sucks, really, because I quite liked his presence.

Then Dean traps Balthazar and gets him to give the kid's soul back. That's nice of Dean...also nice of Castiel to let him,, before he ultimately let's Balthazar go, because heck, that's diplomacy for you. And Dean complains, but Cas doesn't stick around...sigh...I miss friendly Castiel a little, as much as I like the flitting around.

Ok...now Sam's car is destroyed, so they're back to cruising around in the Impala...order is NEARLY returned to the universe. Except Sammy's all weird. It's almost like the only emotion he's letting himself feel is "slight amusement" and "annoyance". Dean tries to get him to talk about Hell, assuming (like I have) that Hell completely messed up his personality...but Sam rightly points out that Dean only knows what Hell was like FOR HIM, that Hell messed up DEAN, but that Sam is NOT DEAN. Point for Sam - we all deal with trauma differently...that being said, is Sam just in denial? Is this actually Sam? What the heck is going on?

So...hopefully I didn't miss anything too important...

A brief note about "How could Cas find the Winchester's when they have the rib carvings?" - I think it's because Dean prayed for him. And that's the only reason...of course, the plot hole this opens up is that in Point of No Return when Dean wanted to give himself to Zachariah, he could have just prayed for him the whole time...so, who knows...maybe he didn't realize this at the time? Anyway, we'll see if it happens again.

Oh, another brief note: Dean's angel banishing sigil burned when he used it. So, sadly, the angel-sigil-burning-effect in 5x13 was not just because it was Sam's blood. Pity. I was so hoping that would be a thing...I guess I'm a little disappointed that there's not more openly apparently consequences for Sam having demon-blood in him. It must have just been a caveat to being Lucifer's true vessel or something...some rule somewhere that the True Vessel needs to have been infected with demon blood at 6 months of age or something. Ah plot holes...how I love to fill you with LOVE.

A)The "Traditionalist Angels" wanting to restart the apocalypse and finish it properly...SO NOT COOL. What a total kick in the face to Sam. If he could feel at the moment, he'd be devastated.
B)Wendigo mask...nice callback to S1, to point out just how much things have changed..

Ok, that was fun. 


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Oct. 9th, 2010 07:15 am (UTC)
Hee! Loved your review. You're so thorough. *iz impressed* :D

Yeah, they left the sigil rib carvings unanswered...sorta. Cas said he didn't appear because Dean prayed for him, but because there was trouble afoot. Great timing then. Pfffft. Not sure I buy that really. Maybe he could indeed hear Dean, but could "see" where Sam was (assuming that the sigils are gone from Sam due to dying and being in the cage and being resurrected) and went to where he was assuming that's where Dean was at. That's my working theory for now 'cause I highly doubt the show is going to revisit the idea again. *le sigh*

Anyway, I enjoyed reading this and I don't normally read anyone's review until I do my own. I broke my rule for you 'cause I was curious about what you thought. *g*
Oct. 9th, 2010 07:21 am (UTC)
Hey, thanks for breaking your rule for little ol' me. I'm glad I didn't disappoint!

I disagree with you about the rib-carvings though. I think they both still have them (after all, they are always resurrected with their skin tattoos, why not their rib-ones?), and that Cas DID come because Dean called (and in doing so revealed his location)...but as you said, it was because trouble was afoot. So, the way I imagine it is Cas is like "Hm, trouble is afoot...oh Dean's calling me, where is he? Ah, he's located where the trouble is, how convenient, he can help me out..."

But yeah, I don't think it's something they're going to address. So, we can be theorizing until the cow's come home. :-P

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Oct. 9th, 2010 01:49 pm (UTC)
Thankfully I didn't have to break any rules to read your review :) So I could come and read this when I was able to.

That part about the beginning being gross? So true, I think this one will fall among the top 3 most disgusting moments in the history of the all show..

The bullet and other scars - haven't you yet gotten used to the fact that there is no continuity for those things even in most movies (which are made during a shorter period of time), and almost every show? well except if the scar/injury/bullet hole is not playing a prominent role? :)

Hey, can I ask you one question? That part Castiel said about being a "celestial intent" - it makes no sense for me [Yes I even checked more than one dictionary including english - english ones]. He was a wavelength of heavenly meaning? Heavenly purpose? Or there is some expression I am totally missing?

About that part how hell messed up Sam and Dean. Somehow I have always felt that for Dean one of the biggest problems was the fact that he himself took the knife and started cutting, and that was the biggest problem for him – the one who tries to spare pain for others, now having to torture them. But Sam – I doubt that he was in the same position as Dean, and that he went through the same things.. So I think that there is not even a point of them dealing with the trauma differentially. They just had 2 completely different experiences.

Other angels wanting a proper apocalypse – so, is the show now going in the direction of the yearly [? Every year?] apocalypses in May, like Buffy and other shows dealing with similar problems? I really hope that this wont turn out to be a major thing in their list of problems.

Heaven is the new Hell. Angels are the new demons.
And that is one scary thought I had as well.
Black is white. Up is down.
And this part of that idea made me think back of my philosophy lessons in school. We once had a discussion about these polar opposites, which by definitions can't be the same thing. And then we had theories how black actually could become white (and other way around). But there was this one thing that we couldn't refute - circle and square. By the most primitive definitions – two different things. And then I went to university, and in Calculus professor proved that there are times when those two – can look and be the same thing [sometimes a dot, sometimes a line]. That I think is still the most shocking thing I have learned.
So the point of all this rambling was – strangely it really all depends on the base of your knowledge and viewpoint. And how normal it all is that the Heaven is the new Hell and Angels are the Demons. They have played their part, and now they have switched. Or the dot now has decided to define itself in a new way :)

Hmm.. I have a feeling that I shouldn’t use the livejournals and entries of other people to define my own thoughts, but leave that to my own space or just the proper places.. Sorry for using your space :)
Oct. 9th, 2010 03:10 pm (UTC)
'intent' in this case more as 'purpose' and less as 'meaning'. More like a really directed thought. Just driving home the idea that he didn't have a body and that it wasn't in the physical world, I expect.
Oct. 10th, 2010 01:30 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your input in clearing this up :)
I think I will go with that part that it really was meant to emphasize the fact that he didn't have a body.
Oct. 9th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC)
By all means, use my journal to philosophize!! I love it! :) You're philosophizing is full of post-modernism there...and I cannot dispute it. Good point. Nothing is sacred.

And yes, I AM used to bullet wounds and stab wounds magically disappearing...which is why it's nice that they have SOME sort of body-continuity, even if it's just with a tattoo.

Another commenter answered your "intent" question...but I'm going to answer it too. Intent IS like purpose, but it's also like "will"...as in the noun, not the verb. At least this is how I interpret it in this context...basically, Castiel spent the past year as a being of pure will. I may have just made it more confusing for you, but I can't help but think of the Lord's Prayer - "His will be done on earth as it is in heaven".

Re: Sam and Dean in Hell - you are right. I was actually explaining this to my friend. Dean was in hell-proper - the torture racks. Sam was in a cage with only 3 other people: Lucifer, Michael, and his half-brother Adam. It's a completely different experience, and it obviously messed him up in a completely different way. A cool way to think about it, is if you have two prisoners - one is tortured with physical torture, and the other is tortured with prologued solitary confinement...you would end up with two people with completely different "triggers". The first might flip out ever time they saw a knife, or were tied down, the second might flip out every time they were in an enclosed space.

I really doubt they're going for another apocalypse. I think the angel's will be so busy fighting each other that they won't have time to meddle with Sam and Dean too much...I think Cas will show up as they find more celestial weapons are have to deal with rogue angels mistreating humans or something.
Oct. 10th, 2010 01:32 pm (UTC)
Sorry. I really love that Circle=/=Square thing and sometimes I see it everywhere. [And therefore use it]

About that intent thing – well, you didn’t make it more confusing. I have a nice idea now how I am going to interpret it (putting together what you both said). :) I suppose sometimes it is better to go with the instinctual understanding and not to try to break the sentence in smaller pieces. Because then you can get to the moment where Castiel starts to look like a piece of 3D micro-wave picture in celestial colours.

And now I only have to once again think where do the bodies of the angels go when they are not used to walk the Earth? Especially in the Castiel's case where his host is dead? Is there some kind of a dressing room [similar to the Heavens Green room] where the bodies are hanging around while they are not being used?

Thanks! That idea about the 2 prisoners is really great, and it applies to this situation very well. Only it is strange to think about S&D having triggers like that, since they don’ t have them. But it explains the situation very well.

One Apocalypse in 6 years is enough.. :)
</i> I think the angel's will be so busy fighting each other that they won't have time to meddle with Sam and Dean too much</i>
I hope that you are right on this part, that the Heaven wont be bothering them too much. But on the other part – that sounds too much like some kind of a game – „collect all these things” or „don’t let the bad guys have them”, where they learn about some Quest Item, and then they have to either get it or guard it.
But I suppose it really doesn’t matter what is the big endgame of the season. It will be great anyway, right?
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Oct. 9th, 2010 02:50 pm (UTC)
>>I've digressed though - Sammy never paid for sex before...so what are your theories? New Sammy, new stance on prostitution?

Given that they contrasted it with Dean's dream, I think what they were going for was more "something's wrong with Sam." I mean, after all, looking like that, it's not like he wouldn't have volunteers (especially after doing sit ups, hah.) So I what I took away from it is that even a one-night stand would be too much of a personal connection. He'd rather have the business transaction.

>>"Dean and I share a special bond....I wasn't going to say anything"

That line was awesome. It was all in the delivery. I cracked up at 'I wasn't going to say anything'. And yes, definitely fan service. If shirtless!dean and shirtless!sam wasn't enough to prove it, this line clinched it. Not that I'm complaining. Not at all.

It cracked me up that the brother's name was Aaron.
Oct. 9th, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
So I what I took away from it is that even a one-night stand would be too much of a personal connection.

Ah, I can't believe I didn't think of that. You are completely right...not only does using prostitutes avoid personal connection, you also don't really have to talk to them. One night stands, you have to woo at least enough to get them into bed...smile at them, come across as a person.

Now, that being said...I'm surprised Sam is bothering with sex at all given his current state...but hey, I guess you have to "clean the pipes" somehow...might as well get someone else to do some of the work for a change.

Why is it funny that the brother's name is Aaron? Am I missing something?
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Oct. 9th, 2010 03:18 pm (UTC)
agree on the gross part.

as for Sam and a hooker, my friend Ben pointed this out - in another series that we both read there's a character who turns to hookers to satisfy a need without the attachment, so Ben is figuring that's what Sam did. (oh, i really should post that too.)

and my thought on Castiel showing up at just that moment was maybe because he was interested in the Staff of Moses, and new Dean and Sam could help. since the sigils made them invisible, Raloria thought that maybe Sam's could have been "erased" when he was in Hell.

i liked the wendigo mask too. =)
Oct. 9th, 2010 08:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think they still have the rib carvings, and that Castiel showed up because Dean's prayer revealed their location AND he needed their help. We'll see though, if he shows up again in an upcoming episode without being called and without using his cellphone, then we'll know that the rib carvings are gone.

And yes, I think you are right about Sam avoiding personal attachment/interaction...now that I've thought about it, it makes sense for RoboSam not to want to put the effort into wooing some bargirl.

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Oct. 9th, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC)
I thought that Sam paid because he wanted to keep the sex about a function, rather than about any kind of human connection. Notice that he rejects the note, when the girl wants to make it something more personal (not paid for)

As for the sigils, I've been wondering about that one too. Either it's because Dean prayed directly to Cas, but if so, then why didn't Cas tell them they could do that back in s5, or and this is my guess. Cas erased Dean's carvings in Swan Song when he was healing his injuries. Since the carvings were technically an injury. And Sam's carvings got erased when Sam was ressurected, cause the person/thing doing so, wanted to be able to find him or something like that.
Oct. 9th, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
Yes, I think you are right about Sam not wanting any human connection. It makes perfect sense for him to get a hooker then...though, personally, if I didn't want human connection, I would just use my right hand...but that's me.

I don't think their rib-carvings were erased. I think Castiel couldn't come to them in S5 when they prayed because he was cut off from heaven - he didn't hear prayers anymore. Now it's different. Now, that being said, we'll really just have to wait and see...if Castiel shows up in a future episode without being called, then we'll know that the rib-carvings are gone.
Oct. 10th, 2010 12:51 am (UTC)
Hmmm, you pointed out that the actor who plays Raphael won't be back, and I'm wondering if that's because he will be a reoccuring presence throughout the season and they want to get someone else to play him-to present a different image? (and presumably they didn't know Raphael would become so important-Cas's rival- so that's why they need to change now). Though I wonder if they want someone more attractive/hot? But it would make more sense for Raphael to be in an older vessel, because he's a 'traditionalist'.
Oct. 10th, 2010 01:02 am (UTC)
I thought Raphael was pretty attractive as he was...

I think they cast every bit part on the show with the thought in mind that if they don't die in that episode, they might be recurring.

I loved his voice - thought he had it down perfectly, so I'll be interested to see who they'll get next.
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