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Hellooooooo!

Little late tonight, because I had a writer's group until 9:30, but hey, at least I'm not 4 days late like last week!

Since today was yet another instance of me watching the show alone at home, there was no drinking. However, I still took horrible notes, so usual rules apply.

Let's do this...

We begin in Sheridan County, Nebraska, and a couple camping for the weekend - before, it seems, the girl takes off to some vet program in Washington. The girl doesn't react the way the dude wants to his comment about long-distance relationships, so he goes off to collect firewood - never a good idea. And then we find out he was going to purpose - it's too bad he's about to die. And die he does, by hell hound... luckily, Gwen, our heroine, is quick enough to axe that dog right in the face and that gets it to run away long enough for her to get the heck out of there.

Now we cut to Sam and Dean - and they are just returning from a series of hunts. Dean is covered in blood and carrying a familiar looking bat wrapped in barbed wire - making a comment about how "dad loved this thing"  - so, amusing JDM=Negan reference right there!!

They've been hunting ghoul, wraiths, and sirens - ghouls and wraiths I understand being in the same place, but siren?! Also, Dean seemingly has not bathed inbetween these deaths... so, um, not a lot of FBI interviews needed then.

Sam also informs us that Dean's been wearing the same pair of boxers for 4 days. Dean finds it creepy that Sam knows how much underwear he packed. I laugh at that line, because stuff like that always reminds me of my BFF who once spent the whole day shifting uncomfortably before finally announcing "I don't think these are my underwear" and that always lodged in my head as an example of what it was like to have brothers. Basically, I just love the unavoidable intimacy of Sam and Dean's lives.

Sam gets a message from "Frodo" which is, apparently, Mick Davies. Why Frodo? Is it because he's short and blue-eyed? Like... does Sam refer to all black-haired, shorter-than-him, blue-eyed people as Frodo? I'm just... so confused as to the nickname. The text is directing them to the Hell Hound case in Nebraska.

Sam makes up a story about how he made an algorithem to scower (did I spell that wrong... I think so) the interwebs and find them cases. Sam's pretty good with this lie, because he DOES start launching into technical speak like he actually did it... but, that also slightly annoys me, since Dean DOES know tech too, he just pretends he doesn't - that's Dean's whole schtick is being brilliant and pretending he's not, and Sam knows that... so I think Sam's lie sort of falls apart when he treats Dean like an idiot in order to not have the lie revealed. And given how goddamn perceptive Dean is, I'm pretty sure some part of Dean probably already knows what's going on.... but again, that might just be me.

Sam and Dean drive to Nebraska - Sam's chatting with Mary (awww) and Dean is on the phone to Cas (awww) - and we find out that Mary is hunting with the brits, and Cas is in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho, investigating angel deaths.

We then jump over to Cas here, and we see that he's on Kelly's trail - finding a mention of the waitresses disappearance in a tabloid. He's gone to question the manager. He's using his FBI badge (still upsidedown) and the fake name "Solange" which... is just awesome. I love how Cas always chooses female alliases. I guess because it supports my preferred headcanon that angels are agender or genderqueer or genderfluid.

The manager of the diner where the waitress worked is one of those alien conspiracy guys, so he's decided it's the lizard people. Cas nearly gives up on him, but then he produces surveillence tape of the attack - though it cuts out before the killings, it DOES show Dagon with her yellow eyes.

Back to Sam and Dean, we find out that there's no body, and the sheriff tells them that the girl told the cops that they were attacked by an invisible wolf. Which, pretty much tells Sam and Dean exactly what they're dealing with.

Sam decides they should go tell Gwen that she doesn't need to worry about the "invisible wolf" coming after her. And, for a brief moment, while watching, I actually had the thought "Man, that street really looks like Vancouver"... and then I was like "...right, they film here. Everything looks like Vancouver."

Anyway, the visit doesn't go well. Firstly, they unknowingly let the Hell Hound - which IS stalking Gwen - into the house when they come in. Then she doesn't believe a word they say when they try to tell her it was a bear and she needn't be afraid. She rightfully kicks them out for treating her like a moron. Luckily, Sam and Dean don't actually go far, because when the Hell Hound makes it's presence known and chases her into the bedroom - they run in and save her.

Then we jump to Crowley and Lucifer, where the only note I took was "ugh, I hate this storyline, just kill him."

Back to Sam and Dean! Caught out in their obvious lies, and knowing Gwen is still a person of interest - they tell her the truth. Only, she doesn't fit the usual pattern, because she never made a deal - and seemingly neither did... um, dead guy, I've already forgotten his name, poor in-love dead guy. I want to say "Randy" but that's... kind of a stupid name (so sorry to any of you named Randy... it's just, you know, personal taste in names.)

They decide to call Crowley, who is thankful for the interruption, since he's listening to boring hell business. Except, he's also still really mad at the Winchester's for killing his son (again).  But, Hell Hound on the loose sounds like his business - so he asks the demons and finds out that Ramsey escaped.

Meanwhile, Cas runs into an attractive angel, named something that I couldn't hear but sounded like Kelvin. I'm going to look it up right now and see how close I was... I WAS RIGHT!!! Wow, Kelvin doesn't sound like your usual angelic name, but then, I guess I don't know the origin of the name Kelvin at all. I'm going to look that up now too..."from the Scottish river, perhaps meaning 'narrow water'" Well, okay then, like I said, not very angelic, but whatever! I'm not going to judge.

Sadly, Kelvin comes across as a bit of a douche and I don't trust him at all, at all.

Crowley shows up to talk to Sam and Dean about what's what. He tells them the origin of Ramsey, the first Hell Hound, who was created after God created poesies and koalas... and apparently Dean really likes koalas (I mean, I guess they are high all the time and have sexually transmitted deseases, so maybe he can relate? LOL I'm joking! I'm joking! Oh my goodness, please don't hate me Dean!girls, I didn't mean it. ... or Koala-fans... they're adorable. They'd make anyone smile, I'm sure.)

Anyway, Ramsey was smuggled away by Lucifer from God's "oops, shouldn't have invented these" mass killing of hell hounds. She was pregnant at the time, which means all other hell hounds are inbred or some sort of cross-breed. Good to know.

Ramsey, as a result, is only loyal to Lucifer and won't obey anyone else. She also, apparently, holds a grudge - and Gwen admits to hitting her in the face with an axe - well, that'll do it.

I do like Crowley's line of "it can always get weirder" to Dean... I wrote it down. Don't have anything specific to say about it though.

Back to "Hell" - which is actually Fall River, MA, which irks me. The demons have found the keys to Lucifer's temporary prison cell. They come in to free him - having swiped the key from Crowley's pocket - but one of them wants to make some demands first. Meanwhile, the other is a Trump supporter and just thinks Lucifer is the best, even though he's clearly not.

Meanwihle, Sam, Dean, Crowley, and Gwen head back to the woods. Dean and Crowley will hunt the Hound on foot - while Sam tries to drive Gwen away (or around the outskirts of the woods?) in order to lure the Hound to the area, possibly? I wasn't quite sure of the plan there - if they were trying to get away completely or if they were staying in the area but keeping moving, I'm guessing the latter, obviously.

Dean tells Sam to "take care of her" and Sam thinks he's talking about Gwen and is OFFENDED, and then realizes that he's talking about the car, and is STILL OFFENDED! Hahaha... Dean tells him that he "tends to ride the breaks" - which, I have to admit, if that's true, Sam and I have something in common. (bad habits, die hard.) Dean tells Sam to think of the car as a beautiful beatiful woman... to which Sam rolls his eyes and leaves, and Crowley says "ew."

Back to Cas and Kelvin. They're having a drink and catching up. Kelvin tells Cas that it's an "all hands on deck" situation up in Heaven, what with the spawn of Lucifer about to be birthed into the world. This, surprisingly, may include Castiel - who, Kelvin informs us, has more field experience than 10 angels put together. Kelvin offers Cas a similar pitch as the BMoL are offering the Winchesters - business as usual, only he'd have the full force of Heaven behind him and the power that came with it. Kelvin tells Cas that he understands that Cas likes earth - Kelvin likes it too, it's "quirky and smells like hay" - but that Kelvin is sure Cas would like to come back to Heaven. Cas is wary and points out that he's not welcome in Heaven, but Kelvin insists that he could come back, that his sins would be forgotten if he did, and the angels forgiving... and that this message apparently comes from Joshua.

Oooo... Joshua... I'm intrigured, just like Cas is, but I really don't trust this Kelvin guy, no matter how goodlooking he is!

Especially when he goes on about how Cas must want to be with his "true family" - like, really dude? The Winchesters are his true family and have been since Heaven constantly turned it's back on Cas and the Winchesters never have (not even when Cas was briefly insane with power.)

Back in the throne room, Lucifer is now free. Shocking.

Dean and Crowley! Dean is wearing glasses and looks adorable and very Clark Kent In Flannel. Dean and Crowley talk about how it's weird that they're working together now - Dean accusses Crowley of being soft, helping save "the girl of the week." And Crowley rightfully points out that Dean is also working with Crowley, and maybe it's not just that Crowley has gone soft, but that Dean's morals have become more grey and mercurial. This of course, he states in a much more leud manner, but the point stands.

Sam meanwhile, is driving around with Gwen - and Sam's wearing glasses a little like mine! And I love them!

Gwen has a flashback to Gavin's?! death... Gary? Crap... I'm just going to look this up too... Ah, SuperWiki doesn't have it yet. Damn. We'll never know. (It's not important anyway.) What IS important, is that Gwen has to throw-up because she's so guilty feeling.

Back to Dean briefly, who finds dead-guy-who-deserved-better-than-me-forgetting-his-name and the Hell Hounds lair, but it is empty.

Back to Gwen, who tells Sam how guilty she feels - for taking her dead boyfriend on one last camping trip before she dumped him. For not loving him as much as he loved her. It was easier to take him on a camping trip and break up long-distance than it was to tell him the truth, and she regrets everything now. Sam of course, starts feeling guilty for his own lies - because DUDE, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER! YOU HAVE ALSO JUST FELT THE STING OF BETRAYAL FROM YOUR MOM!

This mutual guilt trip is interrupted by Ramsey attacking. She DENTS THE IMPALA! Nooooo... Dean's gonna be so mad. Then she breaks the windshield. Sam tells Gwen to stay in the car - that they can't leave until he deals with this. And man, Sam taking on a hell hound alone is pretty badass. He gets thrown through, and loses his glasses. Then Gwen uses the green cooler to smack the hound! Hero moment for both Gwen AND THE GREEN COOLER! An intrigal part of the team. And before anyone suggests that Gwen is foolish for getting out of the car - please keep in mind that if you have a huge guy willing to fight for you, it's in your best interest to try to keep him alive if you can - staying in a car watching him get eaten is going to put you in as much danger of being eaten as running out there and smacking the hound in the head with a cooler while it's distracted.

It works! And Sam scrambles up, doesn't get his glasses though, and instead is able to track the Hell Hound by sound - which is also pretty amazing. And manages to get the angle right to stab it when it lunges for him. Awesome.

Dean and Crowley then show up in the next seen, Dean looking dismayed at the Impala and telling Sam that it's why he doesn't drive more often. Gwen gives Crowley a hug in thanks, because she doesn't know any better. Then Sam takes the time to thank Crowley too... and Crowley peaces the fuck outta there, because, personally, I think part of him feels HELLA GUILTY for keeping Sam's WORST NIGHTMARE on earth instead of locking him away for all eternity, just because Crowley's got a stupid ass grudge and dumb writing. (Sorry, just... you know.)

Positively though, I'm interested to see if Crowley really DOES feel bad about it and that's why he's helping more.

Crowley shows up in the thrown room to find Lucifer gloating - and we get a cool wing display... that Crowley quickly shuts down. And this twist I DO like, because Crowley has turned Lucifer's vessel into his new cage, one which Crowley has complete control over - so, Lucifer CAN'T rise up against him. That being said, it appears that Crowley is the only one that can control it - so that worries me, because if Lucifer gets a lucky shot in, or if Crowley's not around, what does that mean for everyone else?

Sam and Dean return to the bunker. Dean talks to Cas and finds out about Dagon, who Castiel still calls a "Prince of Hell" and then corrects Dean on the gender after that - which intrigues me because it means "Prince" is a title regardless of gender when it comes to Hell. Following a similar pattern in english, where jobs retain their masculine form while the feminine form dies out. I still wish tailors were called seamstresses though.

Cas tells Dean that he's going to be tracking Kelly still. Then we pan out of Cas's location and see that he's following Kelvin to heaven.... and I DON'T TRUST ANY OF IT.

Dean hangs up and he ALWAYS KNOWS when something is off with one of his family members. So, he's already suspicious about Cas.

Sam, no doubt seeing this, just comes completely clean - there's no computer program, for the last two weeks they've been doing BMoL hunts. This, of course, pisses Dean off. Sam is very sorry though, and Dean forgives him - much to his surprise. Or, he doesn't really forgive him, but he says "okay" and that Sam's "right" ... he points out that they work with people they don't trust all the time - like Crowley - and there's no reason for this to be any different. But, he tells Sam that the second something feels off, they have to bail. Sam agrees.

So, yeah, BMoL's unmerciful total-killing is TOTALLY going to be the thing that throws the Winchester's off. I'm just wondering what the fall out will be.

Also, does Heaven really want Cas back or is that all a lie to lock him up or reprogam him again or whatever? Is Joshua really back or was that a lie too?

TIME WILL TELL...

Next week's promo:[Spoiler (click to open)]Claire's back!! Yay! I hope she's okay and makes it through. Also, looks like Mick is going to get some field experience - and also, werewolves tend to be morally grey more often than not - I'm wondering if this is where the cracks will start to show?



As always, let me know what you thought (and apologies for the lack of spellcheck! And if you're going to tell me that dude's name, make sure that the three comments before you haven't already)

Comments

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supernutjapan
Mar. 10th, 2017 01:06 pm (UTC)
Marcus, hon :D Got it on my second watch - never pay attention to names unless I have to write about them LOL

Very suspicious angel. I think it might be a trap too, or at least he's not going to like tying up with them, just as the boys are not going to be happy with the BMoL. The angels, BMoL and Crowley are all after the Nephelum, and I don't think Cas and the Winchesters are thinking just kill it, at this point. So somewhere between Heaven and Hell it is :D Love that title.

Edited at 2017-03-10 01:09 pm (UTC)
hells_half_acre
Mar. 10th, 2017 06:27 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I was WAY off with that name, geez.

Yeah, I'm not sure what Cas and the Winchesters are planning to do once they find Kelly - truth of the matter is that they've (foolishly?) let children go before just because they're children - and it this rate, they're not going to catch up to Kelly until she has the baby - and then are they really going to kill a baby?

Would the CW even let them? Probably not.

So... yeah, I'm guessing this season will be about what you do when agents have different morals than the organizations that are trying to control them.
khek
Mar. 11th, 2017 04:06 am (UTC)
I think the baby will either age quickly and so they can deal with it, or it will stay a powerful creature that they somehow manage to turn (or keep) innocent so it can age normally. Maybe they're keeping Lucifer around so that he can be redeemed by having a baby, which he will then sacrifice himself for, for love that he's just learned how to feel.

Cheesy, but it's the only reason I can see them keeping Lucifer in play for. Or if they go the other way, he'll age the baby and take over its body.

I'm glad that they've brought the yellow eyed demons back into play, because otherwise, I'd think the whole baby thing s lame. (ooh! Maybe the baby is the first step in a new yellow eyed demon army! Maybe we'll see Rosie from season one again.) :)
hells_half_acre
Mar. 11th, 2017 04:48 am (UTC)
Wow, that'd be a call back.

I guess time will tell. You might have something with the redemption arc - though that's not possible in my view, they could still try it. If they parallel is Mary+Boys, they'd probably be explore Parenthood/parent-child-relationships in the villains, same as they're exploring in our heroes.

I think they're probably trying to save the birth until the finale - or the threat of the child, whatever it is, to the finale - since then we can end on a Lucifer Rising/Darkness Unleashed cliffy - and these questions might not be answered until next season, if they're answered at all!

borgmama1of5
Mar. 10th, 2017 01:33 pm (UTC)
I had a weirdly disconnected reaction to this episode. It wasn't bad...there was certainly lots of action, and the various story lines were distributed reasonably throughout the episode...it just didn't get to me. I was missing the intense emotions over Mary from the last few episodes, I think.

I will start with the end--Sam telling the truth and Dean going along rang true to me. I could see Dean thinking if Sam, who was the one the BMoL really tortured, is willing to put that aside and work with them, Dean will suck it up to stay with Sam.

I did like the couple in the teaser and felt really bad that they were going to be toast. The girl was an interesting character in her own right. I liked the twist that she wasn't actually madly in love with the poor guy. Was a little anvilly laying out that 'lying is bad' for Sam, but it did pay off at the end so I can let it go...

Nice that they had kept the holy-oil glasses back from season 8--those boys save everything, don't they? And keep it all in the Impala's trunk (which must have a spell on it like Hermoine's bag to carry it all? Didn't a recent episode have Dean using the Enochian brass knuckles that the dark-haired BMoL woman used on Dean and Cas?)

I hope Joshua is still a good guy, he was the only decent angel we ever met besides Cas. Although, I wonder if Kelvin just used his name to lure Cas upstairs and we're not really going to see Joshua again? I really don't trust Kelvin, he was too slick! The more I think about it, the more I think Cas is heading into trouble again...

I kind of hated myself for cheering Crowley when he bested Lucifer...Crowley's a bad guy and I don't want to be rooting for him! But his 10-steps-ahead plan for Lucifer is kind of brilliant, and I really hate Lucifer more than I hate Crowley, so...props to Crowley for being so clever. As long as he doesn't start double-crossing the boys again!
hells_half_acre
Mar. 10th, 2017 06:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I had a similar feeling. Can't really explain it. It was a good episode, I just wasn't grabbed.

I agree that Dean going along with Sam at the end made sense.

Yeah, I felt bad for poor Marcus. Gwen was cool - and I also like the fact that they didn't have her as someone who was madly in love with the guy, but also she wasn't cold-hearted or whatever. Like... she was a really nice well rounded character that was going through a complex series of emotions in the aftermath of a tragedy.

You know, the only thing (in recent years) that I can think of that Dean didn't just have in the trunk, was when they needed gold blades to hunt the Banshee in Into the Mystic - and then they were just 15 minutes from the Bunker and had them there. :P

Also, I hope they have glasses cases for those lenses, otherwise those things are ridiculously scratched up after being in the trunk that long.

I really hope that Joshua is actually there - and that he survived the fall and all that. But MAN, I'm not even sure he is... and then, if he is, is he still good? Or is he taking a harder stance after everything that happened? I don't see that meshing with his personality, but I suppose anything is possible.

I also sheered Crowley, if only because it didn't make him seem like 100% idiot, only 50% idiot. (I'm still pissed about the storyline) - they have enough big bads with Dagon and the Nephilum - JUST LET LUCIFER 'DIE'. Sigh....

Anyway, I'll be interested to see what happens. I will say that despite a few rough patches and the mid-season finale, this season is doing pretty good with a slower pacing than the Carver years.
marlowe78
Mar. 13th, 2017 10:28 pm (UTC)
Loved this one, too!

I adored filthy-Dean, had a happy little flashback to Purgatory-Dean, and yeah.... *cough* But a bath would probably be really appreciated, and the flipping-the-underwear-inside-out just... ewww. EW!

Lucille's "cameo" was so fun! I never watched Walking Dead, but I bet there were a few TWD-watchers who cried out when Dean placed that bat on the table :-D


Don't care one lick about Cas (sorry, but ... *sigh* I don't) but I chuckled at his upside-down badge.

"Then we jump to Crowley and Lucifer, where the only note I took was "ugh, I hate this storyline, just kill him." "

I love Crowley, and Lucifer was a good evil monster - two seasons ago. So yes, I agree with you: just kill him. (though i#m still happy he's still around if only it means that i get more of Crowley, the only loud-mouthed Brit I really like having along with the winchesters ;-)

but one of them wants to make some demands first. Meanwhile, the other is a Trump supporter and just thinks Lucifer is the best, even though he's clearly not.

I was grinning a bit at that scene. Lucifer's expressions with the bit in his mouth are hilarious.


Dean tells Sam to "take care of her" and Sam thinks he's talking about Gwen and is OFFENDED, and then realizes that he's talking about the car, and is STILL OFFENDED!


that one, too, was hilarious! Dean's expression when Sam told him he always took care of the victims... and Dean's just LOOKINg until Sam gets it - hahaha, and SO RIGHT HE WAS, right?
Baby gets a lot of damage when Sam's at the wheel.


Back in the throne room, Lucifer is now free. Shocking.

ha - but he so nonchalantly snap the demons out of existance, and his little fanboy who "made it weird now" .. I had fun with that scene. Also great Special effects with the smoke and dust.

This of course, he states in a much more leud manner, but the point stands.

Just a lovely scene, with very entertaining lewd comments. I loved Dean#s shudder after the lewd comment! Also, Dean THANKED Crowley, and i think that was important to the squishy, evil King of Hell

(I also just remember how adorable i find it that Crowley has Dean listed under "not Moose" on his phone!)

please keep in mind that if you have a huge guy willing to fight for you, it's in your best interest to try to keep him alive if you can - staying in a car watching him get eaten is going to put you in as much danger of being eaten as running out there and smacking the hound in the head with a cooler while it's distracted.

Agreed so much. Also - why did Sam go out of the car? I know why they FILMED it so he got to fight the hellhound while Dean's alter ego was having fun with twins, but... (I just realized how that sounded... you know what I mean, right???) ahem - but what reason woud Sam have for leaving the car instead of... I don't know, drive to Dean and Crowley?? Plot-Hole, could have at least let the car stall or something. But ok, moving on because I like the overall result of this ep.

. and Crowley peaces the fuck outta there, because, personally, I think part of him feels HELLA GUILTY for keeping Sam's WORST NIGHTMARE on earth instead of locking him away for all eternity, just because Crowley's got a stupid ass grudge and dumb writing. (Sorry, just... you know.)


But he smiled a little pleased smile when Sam thanked him! But I totally agree with you on the dumb writing... should have just not gone that weird storyline of the President and someone having Lucifer's baby. *eyeroll* Why don#t they let ME writer their plots? I'd do LOADS better and probably cost less.


Also, does Heaven really want Cas back or is that all a lie to lock him up or reprogam him again or whatever?


If I were writing the plots, he'd be welcomed back and could live happily ever after on a cloud. He could even come visit, or get his own show, something like "Angels on Earth" or "Home alone". But as stated above - I don't write it. So it will probably be bad and the Winchester will have to save him --- blablabla.

I liked Crowley being a twisty little shit. I love him being smart, only outdone when the one he always wanted to be loved by twists him around her pretty, evil finger.



hells_half_acre
Mar. 14th, 2017 01:46 am (UTC)
but what reason woud Sam have for leaving the car instead of... I don't know, drive to Dean and Crowley?? Plot-Hole, could have at least let the car stall or something. But ok, moving on because I like the overall result of this ep.

My only thought that Sam was worried that the hound could attack while the car was in motion and cause an even bigger wreck. But yeah, it's a stretch and more than likely just a plot hole for the sake of convenience.

Why don#t they let ME writer their plots? I'd do LOADS better and probably cost less.

They should just hire me and you as a writing team, that's what I say. We'd be good - I like Cas, you like Crowley, so we'd balance each other out in keeping them around ;) (Not that I hate Crowley or anything, I'm just a little more critical of the ways they use him - much like you and Cas.)

I do agree that he's the only smarmy brit worth keeping on this show!

And he's the only part of the Lucifer storyline that I like.

Anyway, everything else you talked about - agreed agreed (except when it comes to Cas, who I like more than you do. ;) )
kailita
Mar. 14th, 2017 04:14 am (UTC)
I don’t correct people’s spelling online, because it’s a casual non-academic platform and it’s not a big deal. But it’s also one of the few times I get to feel useful as a middle school English teacher. So since you asked – it’s “scour” and “algorithm.” :) I’m sure your investment there is minimal, but it made me feel happy to be of service.

As a Walking Dead viewer, I had a visceral reaction to the baseball bat – stunned, then excited, then weirdly guilty, because seeing it in Dean’s hands feels wrong wrong wrong even though I know they’re just trying to do a cute call-out to Walking Dead. That thing is a weapon of mass destruction, and killed one of my favorite characters on Walking Dead. But also, I love any time we mention Dad or call out to JDM. ALSO, did Dean say “Dad loved this thing” or “Dad would have loved this thing”? I’ve seen it capped different ways on different clips, but to me “Dad would have loved this thing” is like, okay, it’s a “cool” weapon I guess, Dean has a (weird) appreciation for that kind of thing (I think about “The Werther Project” when he gets a beer, machete still in hand, after killing all those vamps – I guess a barbed bat would be a mostly viable alternative for something like that). That one I can live with. But “Dad loved this thing” sounds kind of sadistic to me, considering that a bat wrapped in barbed wire is not a tool for killing things neatly, it is a tool for beating things to death in the most painful way possible. And I realize this is wayyyyyyy too much thought to put into a fun little tribute scene. In any case, I reacted! I’m guessing that’s what they were going for. ;) (My love for JDM and my hatred for Negan have led to a veryyyyyy conflicted viewing experience in Walking Dead, haha.)
hells_half_acre
Mar. 14th, 2017 04:53 am (UTC)
How did I spell them? Hahaha, that's the funny thing about my spelling - because I don't spell them wrong because I remember them wrong - I spell them wrong because I'm a phonetic speller when I'm doing stream of consciousness - so I'll do a lot of homonyms, or write freakwently instead of frequently, even though I know very well how frequently is spelled. And then, without a working spellcheck, nothing underlines in read to let me know that I've spelled incorrectly. (It's really odd, because the spellcheck works in comments, but not in posts for me - don't know why.)

Though, I'll be honest and admit that I'm not at all surprised that I didn't know how to spell scour - that's a word I tend to say and not write.

I've also seen the quote both ways - it makes more sense for Dean to say "Dad would have loved this thing", in my opinion, so I most likely heard it wrong.
kailita
Mar. 14th, 2017 04:14 am (UTC)
I also love the unavoidable intimacy of their lives. :) Though I think there are clues in both the early and the later seasons that suggest that Dean is very concerned with his own personal hygiene. But also, he loves to mess with Sam – that’s enough of a reason to skip showering right there.

I enjoyed Castiel’s “Solange” alias as well, if for no other reason than he’s decided to keep it in the Knowles family. Haha.

Also, does Gwen live in this luxurious house…by herself? I couldn’t kept thinking, “How can she afford this as a millennial??”

Brief lore question – can you put a hell hound off (however briefly) with an axe? How about a gun? My initial reaction was, absolutely not. Though I guess I should assume that Sam shot salt at it, right? And maybe the axe was iron of some sort? I don’t remember what we used to kill hell hounds before we had the angel/demon blades. As for the green cooler…I got nothing. I appreciate the attempt to give women agency, but I was not a fan of random girl hurting the strongest hellhound alive with random green cooler. It’s too bad Sam didn’t have a green cooler at the end of season 3, EVERYTHING COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT! Okay, I’m done.

My favorite part of the episode was when Dean told Sam to “take care of her.” Sam’s surprised, slightly wounded, “Of course…” was so sweet…and then I laughed out loud at the reveal.

I also NEVER MIND the brothers in glasses. :)

That brother conflict was very short-lived…which I guess I don’t mind, since I prefer to have them on the same side? Dean seemed appropriately hesitant, Sam seemed appropriately contrite, so I guess everyone was in character – I just wanted a little more payoff. But at the same time, I’m glad we’re not going to drag out this secret over the course of several episodes.

ALSO: Did anyone else notice that Lucifer was wearing a wedding ring? Was he wearing one in his Nick vessel in season 5?
hells_half_acre
Mar. 14th, 2017 05:15 am (UTC)
I think Dean might be like me, where he's concerned about personal hygene up until it's absolutely hopeless, and then a switch flips and it's like "how disgusting can I actually get?" Like, I'll get a little muddy and be like "ew, mud, I'm going to go clean up" but if I accidentally get a lot muddy, I'll be like "Does anyone else need anything from the mud pit since I'm in here?!"

Gwen's "house" didn't register as odd to me, because that's what apartments are like in Vancouver. So, to me, I registered it as an apartment. In Vancouver, you'll see what looks like a single family home, but it'll actually be at least three separate apartments, sometimes four. The backdoor will go to one apartment, the front door to another, the sidedoor down the stairs to the basement suite. When I first moved to Vancouver I lived in an apartment where I entered by going to the back of the house and climbing up what was essentially the fire-escape to a converted attic. So, yeah, my mind registered "oh hey, she's got the ground floor 1br, that's at least $1400, depending on the neighbourhood, but her parents are probably wealthy.

Brief lore question – can you put a hell hound off (however briefly) with an axe? How about a gun? My initial reaction was, absolutely not. Though I guess I should assume that Sam shot salt at it, right?

We've seen them be hit by bullets before (5x10). I don't think it put them off though, possibly just slowed them down. Those were trained hell hounds though - I cut this one a little slack because a)she got it in the face with the axe (ouch) and b)it's basically untrained - it's LOYAL to Lucifer, but that just means it doesn't kill him. If you think about it like a police dog and a non-police dog, police dogs are going to be trained to attack even if someone punches them in the face - regular dogs who are just attacking for fun might be like "ouch, getting punched in the face wasn't fun - I'm going to go rethink my strategy."

The green cooler was just a distraction, it wasn't like she successfully beat it off with a cooler, she hit it with enough for to jar it away from killing Sam, which led Sam to scramble up and then be once again TALLER than the dog - which is also important in dog psychology and whether they attack right away or sit back and assess for a moment... so, I'll take it.

Also, that's no random green cooler, that's a priceless Winchester artifact and how dare you. ;)

But yeah, if she had KILLED it with a green cooler, that would have been ridiculous. It was a distraction only, and Sam hardly could have saved Dean in S3 with a green cooler (if he could have moved anyhow, he WAS pinned against the wall in S3, so it's hardly his fault he didn't at least slow the thing down by smacking it with a chair or what have you... but that's all it would have done - delayed Dean's death by a few seconds before the hell hounds just bypassed Sam and killed Dean anyway.)

That brother conflict was very short-lived…which I guess I don’t mind, since I prefer to have them on the same side? Dean seemed appropriately hesitant, Sam seemed appropriately contrite, so I guess everyone was in character – I just wanted a little more payoff. But at the same time, I’m glad we’re not going to drag out this secret over the course of several episodes.

Yeah, same. I think also there's multiple levels to why keeping an eye on the BMoL from the inside is a fairly good idea - as long as they're all clear that the minute they find out that the BMoL suck, there's no question of owing them anything or any sort of loyalty. Also, since Sam's the one who got tortured, I don't think Dean has too much grounds to get super angry at him - and Sam obviously already knows that lying is bad, so there's no point getting mad at him for that either - like you say.

ALSO: Did anyone else notice that Lucifer was wearing a wedding ring? Was he wearing one in his Nick vessel in season 5?

I can't remember! So, I looked it up briefly on a quick google search... and he was at least wearing one when he appeared as a hallucination in S7, so I'm guessing that Nick does in fact (sometimes?) wear a wedding ring.


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