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Quick Reaction: 11x22 We Happy Few

Hello! I'm back in Vancouver, I flew back today though - so, technically, right now it's 2am for me and I've been awake a good while. :P

Anyway, my plane landed at 8:30 PST, I got home by 9:30 - had the episode by ten or so... and now I've watched it! Yay!

So, let's talk about it...

Over all, this episode felt a lot like last week's for the first little portion - where I really wanted more exploration of emotion, rather than the humour that we got. But that's me and my preference. I will say that the humour was amusing, and certainly you don't want to be too melodramatic. But damn, I wanted a bit more reaction to the fact that Sam is apparently now sharing living space with his former torture (and, by some STRONG implying in the past, also rapist.) But nope!

We do get a confrontation between God and Lucifer though, which I know some people were hurting for last week. Lucifer wants God to say he's sorry. God refuses. Lucifer locks himself in Sam's room and plays music. I liked Dean's line of "this is the worst episode of Full House ever".

Meanwhile, in Hell, Crowley wants to stage a coup and tries to rally the demons around him again. (Using the slogan "Make Hell Great Again"...so topical.) But, the important part of this scene is that attractive!asian!demon is still alive!!! YAY! I hope he never dies.

AAD (attractive-asian-demon) role in this scene is to tell Crowley that hell is tied of him - and won't fall for his lies anymore - that they see him as someone who is susceptible to being controlled and his promise are empty. Basically, Crowley has lost control of hell.

Meanwhile, God explains to the Winchesters - while he makes them pancakes - that Lucifer wants an apology but God refuses to give one.

Meanwhile, in Grande Isle, Louisianna, a tarot reader is being spied on - and it turns out that it's Rowena doing the spying. The Tarot reader is a fellow witch named Clea. Rowena wants to do a spell to go back in time, and she needs a second. She warns Clea that when she looked into Amara's mind, she saw that Amara meant he end of everything, including magic.

Clea argues for Greek Antiquity. Rowena wants the middle ages. Eventually Clea wins.

Back at the ranch, God offers Lucifer a non-apology apology.... one of those weak "I'm sorry that you feel hurt" which is very not the same as "I'm sorry for hurting you."

Sam suggests that maybe God try to be "less lordly" - Chuck argues "but I'm the Lord!"

Lucifer is not having it. He blames God for punishing Lucifer after the Mark tainted him, when it was God who gave Lucifer the Mark in the first place! God clarifies that the Mark didn't CHANGE Lucifer, it just made him more of what he already was.

Lucifer appeals to the Winchesters - telling them that they don't know what it's like to argue with their father when their father is God. Dean says that the experience is actually "all fathers" - and I agree with him, at least in Sam and Dean's case (and only when you are young).

Chuck admits that he sucked at being a dad, but makes the point that he couldn't trust Lucifer not to harm humanity - "what would you have done with you?"

Sam speaks up and actually argues on Lucifer's behalf - it's not about being right, it's just about being sorry.

Dean ruins it by interjecting that you don't even have to MEAN the apology (I argue that you do!) Though it is funny when Sam gets mad at him for saying that he apology-lies to Sam all the time, and then Dean says "sorry" and then points to the exchange as proving his point.

God, very rightly, decides the Winchesters aren't helping and puts them up on the balcony over the war room.

Lucifer and God actually do have a heart to heart then - Lucifer says God forsook him (which is a funny sounding word) and God admits that he did. He was supposed to love all creation equally, but Lucifer WAS his favourite - and therefore God thought that Lucifer was strong enough to resist the Mark, but Lucifer wasn't, and God hated himself for the mistake and so he punished Lucifer. And he's sorry about all that.

This is enough to get Lucifer on board to help in the fight.

The plan is to put Amara back in the box. Dean wonders why they don't just kill her. Chuck tells him that it's because there needs to be darkness and light, yin and yang, in order to keep the balance of the universe. Kiling one of them would end reality. (I love dualistic universes, so I love this idea.)

The problem is that last time it took a great force to bring down Amara - all of the archangels, for starters. Michael, is, apparently, "in no condition to fight" which seems to corroborate the last we heard (I think from Lucifer) that Michael had gone insane in the cage. And Gabriel and Raphael aren't accessible.

Sam asks why God just can't bring Gabriel and Raphael back, seeing as how he rebuilds Cas all the time. God says that archangels are built out primordial creation and rebuilding them is time they don't have. This is pretty cool, because it a)establishes Cas as a low-level angel and b)means that God COULD bring Gabriel back, he just needs more time to do it. (FYI: We had a brief discussion about it in the comments to last week's episode - but the fact that Castiel isn't special to God at all is really interesting. Although it flies in the face of my theory that God created Castiel to be a spanner in the works - it's cool on another level, because it confirms that Castiel is a spanner because of his own free will, and that he is special not because of God, but because of the Winchesters - and all his spanner-ness is due to them, and Castiel's own free will.)

Anyway....

The plan is to recruit!

Dean is sent to speak to Crowley, who immediately assumes that Dean must be working with Lucifer and it was Lucifer who sent him. Nope!

Lucifer goes to try to speak with the angels, who are less then friendly towards him - (I legit kinda do feel bad for Lucifer - even though anyone who torturers Sam for years totally deserves to be shunned and attacked by his friend group.) In order to coerce the angels to his side, Lucifer employs his secret weapon - CASTIEL'S PUPPY EYES! It is super effective.

Rowena gets visited by Sam. She calls him a giant and threatens to turn him into an actual moose - but Clea points out that a)Sam is protected, and b)CLEA is interested in listening to him - WOOT! Go Clea, I like you!

Castiel, in Heaven, tells the angels how Lucifer is horrible to live with and he's burning through Castiel's vessel (YAY Continuity!!) And somehow convinces the angels to help him - by using the ol' God card.

Dean convinces Crowley to join too.

Finally, the plan is explained.

Dean presses for killing Amara, but God refuses (in that patient tone of voice) and Lucifer clues in that Dean just wants God to do what Dean can't. Dean admits that Lucifer is right, when Sam yells at him about it. I don't really understand what the big deal is.. Dean's problems make sense. There's some creepy woman out there who controls his feelings - no one likes that! Of COURSE he's want her removed completely from existance. Anyway, everyone else seems to think this is a weakness on Dean's part? Or... uh, that Dean is letting his person problems cloud his judgment? I do not know and I don't understand.

Meanwhile, Amara is beating up the prophet that they foolishly allowed to return home last week. She eats his soul and therfore gains knowledge as to where the bunker is. She shows up and symbols disappear from the walls... is that good or bad? Who knows! Maybe they were symbols that allowed Rowena to be alerted to her presence there? Maybe they were wards that Amara broke through? Who knows! Who cares! It looks cool.

Team God is at a powerplant, not in the bunker. This is where Dean finds out the part of the plan that Sam didn't tell him - in order to lock Amara up, someone has to take the Mark again. Sam has volunteered.

(I guess Lucifer refused to take it again. Figures.)

Dean is, understandably, upset by this. Sam says that Dean can't have the Mark, because he's already been tainted by it, and therefore isn't strong enough anymore (I guess?). Sam figures Dean can lock Sam up when he gets all murdery... because, right, that was a plan that was going to work so well when Dean had the MoC? I mean, geez, Sam. I guess he regrets not letting Dean get zapped to outerspace by Death after being murdered? Because that's basically the solution that he's telling Dean to accept. Actually, no, I take that back, the solution he's telling Dean to accept is the Michael vs Lucifer fight, where eventually Dean is going to have to fight Sam and lock him in a cage for all eternity. Man, they really do always end up there.

Meanwhile, Amara is being a creepy creepster an going through Dean's things - finding a picture of Dean and his mother.

Rowena calls Amara and tells her where God is, pretending that she's betraying God - but I can see through her! Sadly, so can Amara.

Amara shows up and Rowena is the first attack.... sadly, Amara reverses the spell and it kills all the witches that were helping Amara - aw, sad, though witches are generally bad, so I suppose it's good? But damn.. I liked Clea.

The fight ensues, with heaven striking, and then the demons. And meanwhile, I'm sitting here, like "but this isn't even the finale? How can the showdown happen before the finale?!"

Finally, Amara staggers into the powerplant.

She accuses God of only creating things because he wanted to be God - ie: before God's creation, there were only the two of them and they were equal - God needed to create underlings in order to have an ego.

God argues that it's not ONLY that - that there is a glory in creation that is bigger than his ego - that whatever indescribable "glory" just IS like God and Amara ARE - that it is something seperate from them, but that needed God to bring it into reality. (Again, one of my favourite Gibran quotes - "Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of life's longing for itself." - basically, God's argument is that the universe is actually tri-fold - God, Amara, and "Life")

Amara tells God that she loved him. He fails to say he loves her back and I think that really pisses her off.

Anyway, God apologies and then tries to seal her away, but Amara is NOT HAVING IT. Not only does sealing her away not work, but Amara kills Lucifer when he tries to stab her again to subdue her - and then she kills God!

Except, she doesn't - not yet - God's "dying" not dead... and that's, hopefully, an important distinction. Amara wants him to watch his world turn to ash.

So, does Amara not knowt that she just destroyed reality?! Maybe, because she does tell Dean "Welcome to the End" and she did talk about wanting to die rather than be locked up. So, Amara's suicide plan may very well be such that she's taking the whole world out with her.

In anycase... next episode, the Wincesters have to find a way to save God and/or reality - and defeat, in some capacity, Amara.

And it looks like Michael is the last living Archangel... still locked in the cage.  But, Cas is back!?

Man, this is going to be some finale!

The promo gives away the premise - so, if you haven't watched it yet, I'd recommend not doing so. I kinda regret now looking it up on youtube. Ah well TOO LATE.

As per usual, forgive my atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes. It is now 3:30am in the province that I woke up in this morning. :P

And also, as per usual, please let me know what you thought in comments!!

Comments

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claudiapriscus
May. 19th, 2016 10:11 am (UTC)
...SPN has not stopped upping its end-of-season stakes, has it?
hells_half_acre
May. 19th, 2016 05:15 pm (UTC)
... it really hasn't. :P
Romina M.
May. 19th, 2016 08:49 pm (UTC)
Wtf
Yeah those were my words when I finished the episode. So last season we were shocked Death was killed, now God is dying...what's going on with this show?!

"The fight ensues, with heaven striking, and then the demons. And meanwhile, I'm sitting here, like "but this isn't even the finale? How can the showdown happen before the finale?!"

lol My thoughts exactly. If this happened this week, what could we expect for the actual finale?

As for the episode, overall I enjoyed it. And at the beginning I was laughing so much with the family drama of God and Lucifer, it was kinda surreal for me.

Something some fans have said, how many times has been THE END on Supernatural? It something that once in a while it happens. Anyway, still an interesting episode.
hells_half_acre
May. 20th, 2016 06:02 am (UTC)
Re: Wtf
Agreed agreed.

And yeah, Supernatural always has to be about the "The End" - but I think it actually feels like it happens more than it actually happens? Like, it's actually only happened arguably 3 times - and that's IF you count the Leviathan plan to slaughter all humans. Oh wait, there was also Raphael's plan to restart the apocalypse, so I guess that counts? So, 4 times, arguably. I guess that's enough to have it be old hat. ;)
borgmama1of5
May. 19th, 2016 10:10 pm (UTC)
Sam speaks up and actually argues on Lucifer's behalf - it's not about being right, it's just about being sorry.

I find it very off-putting that Sam hans't had any real reaction to being so up close and personal with Lucifer in the last few eps--and arguing on his behalf without any hesitation? Weird emotional disconnect of Sam's character...

Appreciated that they gave explanation re: archangels, tho sad we won't get Gabriel back after all...

Poor prophet...

Amara kills all the other witches but lets Rowena live???

I found this episode left me unsatisfied...
hells_half_acre
May. 20th, 2016 06:04 am (UTC)
I agree 100%, it really annoys me that they seem to have conveniently forgotten how traumatic this would be for Sam, in favour of just focusing on the plot and having funny jokes.

I was also amused that Rowena lived when the other witches died. Why? Doesn't make much sense at all really.

Anyway, yeah, there were some good moments, but I think I was expecting a little something more nuanced emotionally than what we got - so although the final showdown was really cool, and I think Rob and Emily did a good job - I kinda feel unsatisfied as well.
kailita
May. 21st, 2016 04:07 am (UTC)
"I find it very off-putting that Sam hasn't had any real reaction to being so up close and personal with Lucifer in the last few eps--and arguing on his behalf without any hesitation? Weird emotional disconnect of Sam's character..."

"it really annoys me that they seem to have conveniently forgotten how traumatic this would be for Sam, in favour of just focusing on the plot and having funny jokes."

Agree and agree. Which surprises me, honestly, because part of what I loved so much about the midseason finale was that they let that trauma take front and center. And then...conveniently abandoned it half a season later? :(

I think season 11 is kind of the opposite of season 8 for me. Season 8 started ABYSMALLY, in my opinion. ("What's Up Tiger Mommy," "Heartache"...ugh. "Man's Best Friend" and "Remember the Titans" were later in that season, I guess, but I couldn't stand them either.) But once Season 8 introduced its real myth arc with the Trials, I couldn't get enough of it. That particular storyline did a great job of marrying the cosmic stakes with the Winchesters' relational drama, which paid off in a HUGE way in the finale of 8.

In contrast, I think season 11 started off strong, and had a very solid run...I have a hard time thinking of any in the middle that I hated. But here at the end...I don't know, I'm sure this is personal, but I'm not a big fan of this turn. Mostly because it has huge cosmic stakes...but those don't carry any weight if you don't find a way to tie them back to the Winchesters. Now that the brothers are relatively "on the same page" (which I have enjoyed!), their only real problem is the end of the world...which YOU WOULD THINK would be enough (hahaha), but it doesn't have the same emotional resonance at all. I want to see the brothers' storyline at the center, and I feel like they've taken a backseat to this cosmic drama that is mildly interesting but not nearly as compelling. Still...who knows what the finale has in store? I'm trying to reserve judgment.
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2016 06:24 am (UTC)
I think season 11 is kind of the opposite of season 8 for me.

YES! You took the words right out of my head, as I was thinking the same thing yesterday.

Mostly because it has huge cosmic stakes...but those don't carry any weight if you don't find a way to tie them back to the Winchesters. Now that the brothers are relatively "on the same page" (which I have enjoyed!), their only real problem is the end of the world...which YOU WOULD THINK would be enough (hahaha), but it doesn't have the same emotional resonance at all.

This is the thing! They could EASILY SOLVE THIS by exploring the emotional trauma/impact of what is going on. The brothers can be on the same page - but if we were exploring what it's like for Sam to work with Lucifer, that would be 100x more compelling than what it's like for God and Lucifer to work together. I don't REALLY care about God and Lucifer, I care about Sam and Dean. How is Sam dealing with having God in the Bunker when he's "the boy with the demon blood"? How is Sam dealing with having to sleep in the same building and work along side his torturer/rapist. How is DEAN dealing with the fact that he's being romantically-coerced by God's sister? How is he dealing with the fact that his BFF is currently being subdued by Lucifer seemingly by his own free will? How is Dean dealing with the fact that his brother's torturer is living in Dean's house, wearing Dean's best friend?! How are the brothers dealing with these things together? Are they having conversations about it? Are they having thinly veiled conversations about it, but keeping their own torments to themselves in increasingly difficult acts of emotional repression?!?

How many of those questions would you LOVE to be answered and would make you 100% more engaged in what's happening?! My answer is: All of them.

Don't get me wrong, I think Rob is knocking it out of the park exploring God's relationships - but I need that to be the icing on my Winchester Cake, not have my Winchesters be the unnecessary sprinkles on my God Cake. :P

Anyway, yeah... we'll see what the finale has in store! They have to set up S12 somehow, after all. So, I'll reserve judgement until then. Hopefully the season finishes as strongly as it began.
shadowsong26
May. 19th, 2016 11:29 pm (UTC)
Agreed with your points about the beginning. And about AAD, whose snark was so beautiful last night.

Somewhat of a pet peeve of mine, but the tarot was wrong. The death card means change, not destruction. And, I mean, given that they’re setting up a possible reset button for all the ways things went FUBAR with the time travel spell Clea and Rowena were working on, I could almost suspect a little clever foreshadowing there…except Clea seemed to be reading it as destruction. It’s such a petty thing, but it bugged me--especially since there actually is a tarot card (the Tower) that would work very well for what they were trying to do…

Anyway. Chuck really is terrible at apologizing. Leaving aside the issue you mentioned earlier, with Sam’s reactions to Lucifer being a little more understated than I’d like, I did like quite a bit of what went on during that scene with the four of them.

I agree with you (and disagree with Dean!) about needing to mean you’re sorry.

I’ve never really been in the Lucifer Was Misunderstood camp, but I do like the way him coming to terms with God (at least as long as the Amara crisis is going on) played out.

And agreed about the dualistic universe concept!

I was sort of sad to get explicit in-text canon confirmation that Gabriel’s dead, but I was pleased that someone finally acknowledged Raphael! I don’t even like him that much, I just appreciate reminders that he is, in fact, an Archangel and should get grouped in with his brothers more often...and I do agree about the cool implications/etc. of the discussion/explanation for not rebuilding one or both of them.

I really, really, really liked the way the Team Assembly sequence played out. That’s always been one of my favorite parts of heist movies, and that sequence definitely had that feel. Which, given the way the episode ended, probably has larger implications for how the finale will go, doesn’t it…(I haven’t actually seen the trailer for it, so just spouting random theories at this point).

I don’t really understand the whole fight over Dean’s inability to kill Amara? Because…like…didn’t they already discuss this back in the Valentine’s Day episode or something, when Dean told Sam about the bond? Wasn’t Sam already aware of this issue? Why are they all fighting about it now?

They really need to keep their Prophets on shorter leashes, don’t they…

Agreed about the glowy symbols looking cool, whatever the purpose of them was.

I hadn’t even thought about how Sam taking the Mark would lead them back to their averted Apocalypse destinies, but that is a very cool point.

I liked the conversation/confrontation between God and Amara. I thought that was pretty well handled.

The finale is definitely going to be a big one. But, the more I think about it (as I was reading through/responding to your post), the more this episode feels like a (much more explosion and death prone) heist/con/caper film? So it’s entirely possible a lot of those tropes would apply, and this is all some sort of weird illusion. Either that, or they’ll go back in time and fix it, using the spell Rowena and Clea were working on at the beginning. But who knows?
hells_half_acre
May. 20th, 2016 06:12 am (UTC)
Somewhat of a pet peeve of mine, but the tarot was wrong.

Oh man, yes!! I actually DECIDED not to say anything, because I didn't want to seem too nitpicky - but my sister is a tarot reader, so yeah, Death is actually a good card! Or at least, it's not a card that means LITERAL death. I also agree that the Tower would be a much better card to use. There's even decks that SHOW the destruction of the tower in the illustration, so - although I know they chose Death because people who don't know tarot think it's bad - I still think they could have used the tower and had a good illustration to show the meaning behind it.

I'm also not in the Lucifer Is Misunderstood camp - but agree that it was cool to see him get some closer from his father - and I thought it was handled well, because Chuck apologized for what happened to Lucifer, but he didn't forgive Lucifer for his crimes against humanity, and he pointed out that Mark only enhances what's already inside, so he doesn't even imply that Lucifer was purely good before the Mark.

I was sort of sad to get explicit in-text canon confirmation that Gabriel’s dead, but I was pleased that someone finally acknowledged Raphael!

Agreed and agreed!

I don’t really understand the whole fight over Dean’s inability to kill Amara? Because…like…didn’t they already discuss this back in the Valentine’s Day episode or something, when Dean told Sam about the bond?

Yeah, that really confused me too. I don't get what the deal was there.

The finale is definitely going to be a big one. But, the more I think about it (as I was reading through/responding to your post), the more this episode feels like a (much more explosion and death prone) heist/con/caper film? So it’s entirely possible a lot of those tropes would apply, and this is all some sort of weird illusion. Either that, or they’ll go back in time and fix it, using the spell Rowena and Clea were working on at the beginning. But who knows?

Well, I won't talk about the trailer - but yeah, I agree with all this. It'd be interesting if it was an illusion, but I don't think they're going that route? I'm not sure anyway!
cuddleyfeather3
May. 20th, 2016 03:02 am (UTC)
How's the men of legend sequel coming along?
hells_half_acre
May. 20th, 2016 05:59 am (UTC)
Haha, I love you.

Sadly, wish I had better news for you - I haven't had time to work on it for the past two weeks, so it's still sitting at around 15k and only half done, if that.

Also, I hope you like Merlin, because I realized that it's basically a Merlin Fanfic set in Supernatural - it's not really "about" Sam and Dean at all, they're just there as observers and plot points. I don't really know if there's anyway that I can integrate them more either... anyway... yeah, that's how that's coming along. It would be coming along faster if I hadn't decided to basically have two levels of flashbacks from 3 povs - so that story takes place in the present, the recent past, and the not-so-recent past, and those are all intercut with each other at different times from different perspectives.

Anyway, now that I'm back in Vancouver, hopefully I can get into a writing schedule again and actually get some stuff done!
supernutjapan
May. 21st, 2016 05:59 am (UTC)
WHAT???!!! Cas is back? Honey dtop spoiling me for such things!I'm even avoiding that video of the boys *headdesk* *wraps head around Cas surviving*

But then my idea is pretty much a reset of the whole world, so I guess that would include bringing Cas back.

Now that all the big powers are gone, it's up to the Winchesters again! Looking forward to the next ep very much :D

hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2016 06:15 am (UTC)
Uhh.. I'm just ASSUMING Cas is back. I could be wrong! (I feel like I'm most likely right though.)
supernutjapan
May. 21st, 2016 06:59 am (UTC)
LOL I think you're right too ;)
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