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Sorry this review is so late tonight. My mum is visiting...so, I'll blame it on her, even though it was me that was chatting with my friends a lot. Also, I'm not that drunk tonight, because I was driving... so, by "not that drunk" I mean, not at all drunk. So, will that make this review better or worse? Who knows!!

This was my mum's FIRST EVER episode of Supernatural... so, exciting times!

Let's talk about it!!

The THEN was kinda funny because the way they edited it together, they never actually told us what happened to Jody's family, and instead when Alex asks "what happened to them?" it cuts to Jimmy and Claire and Amelia, so I was wondering if it looked like Claire was Jody's family - Mum said that she wasn't too confused, because she reads this blog... so, yay! Hi Mum! (Yes, my mum reads my Supernatural posts without ever having watched a single episode of Supernatural until now...it's almost as though she is interested in my bizarre life. :P)

Anyway, our teaser death isn't a death at all...it's Claire messing up, as we find out. She hauls a perfectly fine teenager out of his car and accosts him with her angel sword because she thinks he's a monster... only, his teeth never change and he honestly looks terrified... and it's SUPER AWKWARD.

Cute to Sam and Dean (and yes, that was supposed to say "cut" but I made a typo...I'm keeping it, because I think we DO "cute" to Sam and Dean.) They are in the bunker and Sam is mystified by the picture of the weasel riding the woodpecker. Adorable. Dean and Sam then say a bunch of stuff that I missed, but translates to "we don't know anything about the mytharc at the moment, which is why we're just hanging around doing nothing right now"... and then Dean presents Sam with the "Elvis" - which is a bacon cheeseburger, only the bun is two glazed donuts. SO GROSS! Like, seriously, the very idea nearly blocked my arteries. Sam feels the same way I do, saying that he wasn't about to survive countless monster attacks just to be flatlined by a hamburger.

Then Dean gets a phone call, and HE'S ADORABLE, YOU GUYS. He opens with "Your Caddyshack review is overdue" and mannnn... they're such Dads... or at least Dean is. Sam is negotiable, he might be an uncle. ANYWAY, I love the fact that as soon as Claire obviously requests their presence, Dean doesn't even question her over the phone, he just says they're on their way. He's not only a dad, he's a GOOD dad. At least in this respect.

So, then they take off to Sious Falls, South Dakota. I wonder if they ever stop by Bobby's place while they're there... probably not... man, I've depressed myself.

Meanwhile, in Sioux Falls, Jody is picking Alex up from school and she seems to be doing well for herself since last season. She's getting good grades, she has a good report with her teacher, and she's seemingly on track to being Prom Queen beside her Prom King Jock of a boyfriend.

So, funny thing here - although they put the sign over the door of the High School saying "Marshall High School", you can see the "Gladstone" written giant on the wall to the right of that. Because this was filmed at the school on Gladstone, about a five minute drive from my house (and a five minute walk from a friends house) - I actually drove by there while they were filming, because I was house-sitting for that friend at the time... it was POURING rain though, so I didn't stop to watch (also, at the time I was driving by, they were filming far away from the street, so you couldn't see much anyway). Still though, pretty neat!

Jody is all glowy about how well Alex is doing, and then she sees birthcontrol pills in Alex's purse... and, man, those pills look WAY too big to me. The five seconds I was on birth control back in the day, the pills were so small it was ridiculous. Also, my personal parenting style would have been a little bit different when it comes to the pill, but I'm not going to fault Jody for growing up in a different country that has a different culture than my own country when it comes to that sort of stuff. Still, though, I thought Jody was pretty cool about it, considering the culture of the US when it comes to sex.

ANYWAY...

They pull up to the house and see the Impala, and I love how Jody is just like "Winchesters?" - I love how all it takes is the car. And then I love even more when Alex asks why they might be there, and Jody says that she doesn't know, because she "didn't put up the bat signal" - I guess I just like it when people compare the Winchesters to superheroes, and also specifically Batman, because of Dean's love for Batman.

So, basically, the gist of it is that Claire called Sam and Dean without telling Jody, because Jody doesn't believe Claire that there is something funky going on in town with the three disappearances. Jody is like well, you came for nothing, but stay for dinner! So they do!

I LOVE DOMESTIC SCENE YOU GUYS. I mean, they basically had my heart as soon as Sam offered to take the groceries from Jody. And I love Dean telling her that he wants two chickens, because he's starving. And then I love the fact that Sam and Dean eat like it's the best f*cking food they ever had because they never get homemade food, because they're always on the road. (It also makes me wonder about how limited Dean's cooking skills must be, if a simple chicken and mashed potatoes are like ambrosia to them.) On the one hand, it's kinda horribly depressing... but on the other hand, it's kinda hilarious to watch Jody be like "it's just chicken" and Sam goes on about how it's SHAPED LIKE A CHICKEN and not in patty or nugget form. Poor Sam. You'd think after living such a deprived life, SAM would have learned to cook now that they have a kitchen - but I guess he's too busy looking at funny animal pictures.

Then we get into the conversation about how Claire has become obsessed with hunting - to the point where she's been getting it wrong constantly and assaulting innocent people. The only thing keeping her out of juvie is the fact that she's living with the Sheriff. (What age do kids go to college in the states? Is it 17? Claire must be 17 if she's young enough to have been in a group home last year and college this year.) I have to say, I love the actresses, but it really doesn't look at ALL like Claire is older than Alex, even though she's obviously supposed to be at least a year older. Alex looks like the older of the two, but that might just be the blond versus brunette thing... or could be explained away by the fact that Alex had a pretty rough life, even in comparison to Claire, who had a rough teenager-dom so far.

To deflect attention away from herself, and to further the antagonist-sibling releationship Claire and Alex have going, Claire outs Alex's plans to take Henry to the cabin and sex him up. Alex is mortified. Jody tries to be a parent... and Sam and Dean are SUPER AWKWARD and it's awesome. I love it, because it's quite obvious that Sam and Dean NEVER had to talk about relationships or sex with their parent, nor do they know what to say... and they (Sam especially) just wants to leave the table, but Jody makes them stay - obviously hoping their serve as back-up for her in this parenting conversation, but Sam and Dean are two of the least qualified parents ever and they give her NOTHING, and it's hilarious and wonderful. They're USELESS.

I also love how Sam is like "this seems like family business" and moves as if to get up to leave, and Jody is just like "sit. stay." Because, Sam, who do you think caused Jody to have "family business" - it was YOU GUYS. You keep giving Jody orphans! You're basically her babydaddy without the fun sex part!

Also, the part where Jody is like "if we can't talk about it, we shouldn't be doing it, right?" and Sam and Dean CLEARLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. Hahahaha

After dinner, Jody talks to just Dean and tells him how she's concerned about Claire, because she doesn't have any friends, and she never goes to class at the college she's enrolled in... and all she cares about is hunting, to the point where she's going after innocent people. Jody talks about how Claire is "hiding in hunting because she doesn't have anything else". And I love how Dean is like "I'll get Sammy to talk to her" because after all these years, he still thinks Sam is the best ever at talking to people. And he's not WRONG, as we'll see, but, man, "hiding in hunting because [s/he] doesn't have anything else" sounds an AWFUL LOT LIKE Dean to me... at least, in certain stages of his life.

Before that though, Jody told Dean that it was hard because although she acts like their mother, she's not really their mother - and they don't have the sort of history that a real mother and child would have. I think Jody is sort of in the wrong here, a little bit - I mean, yes, I know they're mostly strangers, but really all mothers have to do is care about the kid in order to be a mother... history or no history. But, I also get what she's saying, in that there's not that built up trust or understanding either.

Anyway, Sam really does go to talk to Claire, and bravo to Sammy. It starts off a little rough, but again, Dean's not wrong about Sam's talking skills... and he quickly becomes the sympathetic, understanding, but ultimately supportive person that Claire needs. It's actually a good talk! Claire confides in Sam that she feels like she came late to the Jody and Alex show... and that they're more bonded with each other than they are with her. Awww... Sam agrees that Jody and Alex have been through some crap together, but talks about how hunting will always be there - monsters will always be there - but the chance at having a family, home, and schooling won't always be there.

Then it's time for the "second death", which is actually our first. When we see the teacher in the parking lot, I totally thought that the teacher was the baddy... I don't know why... but nope, he's the victim. Poor teacher! And it figures in the first episode my mum sees, it's a math teacher that gets killed... (my mum was a math tutor for years and has a degree in math).

Alex sees the body run up the flag pole the next day. Then it's time for the Sheriff and the "FBI" to come in. Claire immediately inserts herself in the investigation, even though it's a CRIME SCENE... and when Jody tells her to get away from the crime scene, Claire points out that Sam and Dean are there and they're "Fake FBI" and I love how Dean looks SO OFFENDED.

Dean takes Claire to the side and gives her a dad talk - you should go to school even though no one wants to go to school. And also you should appreciate everything your mother does for you! Then... something interrupts them... oh, it's Alex and her dude-bro boyfriend Henry. Dean gives him the evil eye in a hilarious attempt at being an intimidating father. I loved Claire's sarcasm about how she's sure that he got the message, and Dean takes it as sincerity. The whole scene is golden, and I'm not doing it justice.

But as they walk away, Alex's boyfriend asks about how she knows the FBI... and he's SUPER SUSPICIOUS YOU GUYS! I called it HERE, though I honestly had my suspicions in the opening scene with him.

Sam and Jody go to question the custodian... and I have to say, that's one thing I missed in this episode was some quality Sam and Jody time. But, ah well, I guess you can't have everything. Still, it's nice to see them at least interviewing a witness together and going off each other's looks while doing it... I'll take what I can get.

Meanwhile, Alex is in the woods with Henry, and she's all anxious because the death has probably stirred up all sorts of PTSD... and she confides in Henry VAGUELY about how horrible her past was, and he's all perfect and comforting... and meanwhile I'm like "RUN AWAY! HE IS GOING TO EAT YOU IN THE WOODS, AS HE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT REAL!"

Then there's another fight once everyone regroups at home... they've discovered the custodian doesn't have a valid idea and is super suspicious. Claire wants to go on the hunt, but she and Jody have a meeting with the college registrar to try to save Claire's college career. Jody wins that fight, with support from Sam and Dean, and Claire resigns herself to going to the registrar's office.

But that evening when they leave, they're ATTACKED! Oh noes!! Attacked and KIDNAPPED. And damn, why do vampires always kick out Jody's knee! Poor JODY!

Luckily, Jody manages to get a call to Dean - but man, that's a terrifying call to get, where you just hear your friend being attacked on the other end of the line. Heart-attack material right there... even more so than that horrible donut burger.

We find out that the custodian is originally from O'Neil while is where Alex's nest originally was... so they think he's a member of her nest come to reclaim or kill her. They call Alex right away, but it's too late, because she's with Henry and I WAS RIGHT! He's also a vampire.

Sam goes to the school assuming that the custodian might be using it as a lair...And Dean goes to get Alex, only finding her phone by the dumpster - and MAN, yet another terrifying thing for Dean to find. Poor guy.

Sam has found evidence that the janitor is using an abdoned pool building full of absestos as a lair. So he goes to check that out and Dean tells him that he'll meet him there.

Meanwhile, in the abdoned pool building, we get the custodian's backstory. Meanwhile, me and my friends are joking about how they better not disturb the absestos while they're there, or else they're all going to get cancer.

But, the custodians' story is actually kinda sad...because he was a good guy who tried to stop what he saw as a sexual predetor situation at a bar...where he "rescued" Alex from one of the pedos she was luring back to the nest, and he offered her a drive home...and rather than return home with a failed hunt, Alex let him drive her home as a replacement for the hunt that he cost her. So, she walked away as her nest killed him. But, they didn't kill him, they turned him, and then he went home and killed his family in his bloodlust. So, that sucks. But, I always say that adversity brings out our true natures - and obviously this guy WASN'T such a good guy, because in the face of that, he decided that his best course of action was to track Alex down and ruin her life. It must have been one of her last kills with the vampire next, because goddamn, why didn't he get his revenge when she was still with the nest? HE KNEW WHERE THEY LIVED! And he doesn't seem to have much sympathy for the idea that she was a lure against her will....that she was in a toxic home environment that manipulated her into acting a certain way and threatened her with death if she didn't. Like, seriously... so, the guy is actually a douchebag who probably just thought he was a nice guy because he didn't approve of pedophilia.

So, yeah, his plan was pretty cruel, because he turned the jock-dude and then made him pretend to love Alex... so that all her happiness was a lie.

And then he pulls Claire up from where he's had her tied up and announces that he's going to kill Alex's loved ones in front of her - and Claire is like "hah! She hates me!" but Alex immediately offers to become his lure if he agrees to release Claire... so, yeah, obviously, Alex doesn't hate Claire... or at least is a decent human and doesn't want to see her killed despite not getting along with her. Still, that's PRACTICALLY love. ;)

So, I was a little worried about all three girls being rescued by the two strong men... because at this point, I didn't see a way out for them without the boys' help. But, the writer did a good job of making the boys a distraction that allows the women the time they need to escape and kill the bad guys themselves, or at least help SUBSTANTIALLY. Claire gets a sharp thing and stabs the custodian, giving Dean a chance to behead him. Jody gets free of her bonds. Someone cuts Alex down, I forget who... and then Sam just softens joke dude up enough so that he can stand him in front of Alex to kill... and Alex and Claire actually BOTH kill him. So, yay!

Then it's the morning after breakfast time... and Claire and Alex have made breakfast for Jody, in an attempt to show her how much they appreciate her. It's super cute. Jody is not comfortable being the centre of loving attention and makes a joke about being Tiny TIm. It's funny.

Then we get all wise and learn that the trouble with family is that it gives you something to lose... which means they ARE family, because they were all terrified of losing each other.

Claire tells Dean that Jody is going to teach her how to interview people and basically not hunt like a dumbass.

Sam makes off with a ton of tupperware containers of food and is thrilled.

Claire and Alex have a good talk about how Alex is going to do well in school... but that eventually she WILL leave Jody and Claire, because if Claire is hunting, if Jody is always going to be running into monsters - Alex can't be around that world anymore. And I can't blame her... she wants a chance at normal, and she's not going to get that living with a hunter-in-training and a friend-of-the-Winchesters.  That being said, it's one of those catch-22s, because it's not like Alex can leave home and just never see a monster again, and at least at home she has people to watch her back.

Jody and Dean have a parting conversation. Dean asks if she'll be okay now that she's "outnumbered again" and Jody says "as long as everyone wears a condom, we'll be fine." And Dean replies with "I'd like that on a bumper sticker." And it's hilarious.

Awww, heartwarming ending... and only the math teacher died.

I hope the twitter trending went well tonight... I don't know what the actual chances of getting a "wayward daughters" spin-off is, but I'd love it if we did. It'd be interesting, for sure. They definitely already built up a good complicated relationship between Alex and Claire, and an untested parental relationship with Jody (who I should mention only has parenting experience up to the age of 4-5 with a little boy)... it's all got great room to play with emotional relationships. Anyway, it could be nice - though, not sure what the end game or plot would be. I almost feel like Supernatural is going to exhaust it's own world before we get a spin-off.

[ETA: I forgot to tell you what my mum's favourite part was - 1)The dinner table conversation, because it was hilarous. 2)The climactic scene, because it was so tense, and mum had no idea whether everyone would come through it okay. So, I'm pretty happy with the episode in terms of it being the first (and probably only) episode my mum will ever see, unless she happens to come visit me again during SPN season.]



Let me know what you all thought in comments! Please forgive any spelling mistakes. It's late and I'm sleepy and my spellcheck doesn't work.

Goodnight!!

(Man, I really need a Jody icon. Charlie will have to stand in.)

Comments

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liliaeth
Feb. 4th, 2016 06:57 pm (UTC)
Awesome ep, now if only they made Jody and her daughters the new spin off. (maybe with addition of Donna)
hells_half_acre
Feb. 4th, 2016 07:53 pm (UTC)
Agreed! And yes, definitely need Donna around - or at least popping by constantly!
borgmama1of5
Feb. 4th, 2016 07:15 pm (UTC)
My favorite part was the sex talk at the dinner table, Jody plowing ahead while everyone else wants to hide under the table...

I was a little surprised by the extreme enthusiasm Sam and Dean had over Jody's meal--since when has Sam every been such an avid, sloppy eater? And I thought Dean was a good cook, remember how he made Sam an amazing hamburger and then didn't get to eat his because they had to run out? And how Dean was obsessive about organizing the kitchen? Sam's comment that the chicken is shaped like a chicken, not a patty or a nugget, was pretty funny, though.

I also liked Dean calling Claire out on being rude to Jody at the crime scene, and glaring at Alex's boyfriend.

Speaking of Alex, last time Jody mentioned her it was when she was at the sheriff's convention where she met Donna, and Jody said Alex was smoking grass under the bleachers. Seeing her as popular kid/potential prom queen was a disconnect, and although it was explained as a setup by the boyfriend, I'd think there would have to be a bit more of her changing to fit into the high school scene.

Also things not to wonder about because they don't make sense: did Alex go to school when she was with the vampire family all those years? Because otherwise how does she have the education to get into high school anyway?

As far as ages, I believe Claire turned 18 during her last adventure with the Winchesters--Cas gave her Grumpy Cat as a birthday present, remember? And that would make her old enough to be out of the juvenile system. If Alex is up for prom queen, that would make her a senior so she would be 17 or 18. I do agree that Alex looks older than Claire, though.

I wish there would have been more of a misdirect about Claire's hunting efforts, like what she'd been pursuing wasn't a case but then this one shows up, but I guess there wasn't time to do that in 42 minutes.

Sam should have been acting a lot more hurt after getting whaled on with the board! Interestingly, when Dean arrived on the scene he left Sam to deal with the high school kid even after he'd taken care of the janitor. It was like he looked, assessed Sam was holding his own, and focused on the girls and Jody. Nice show of confidence in Sam's abilities!

Poor Jody's leg, though!

hells_half_acre
Feb. 4th, 2016 07:52 pm (UTC)
I was a little surprised by the extreme enthusiasm Sam and Dean had over Jody's meal--since when has Sam every been such an avid, sloppy eater? And I thought Dean was a good cook...

Yeah, that was the only thing that was incongruous, in my opinion. Dean has shown that he's able to make a very delicious hamburger AND an egg-white omlette that Sam adored, even if Dean found it boring. So, it could be, that Dean just as a very LIMITED repertoire in the kitchen and doesn't know how to roast a chicken...but, that seems unlikely... so, in favour of humour, I think the new writer either didn't realize they were not following canon, or decided that it was worth it for the joke. It WAS funny.

I also thought that it might be not so much a comment on Dean's cooking, but rather a comment on the fact that a LOT of Sam and Dean's life is spent on road-trips and travel and not actually at home. So, it could be not their inability to make food, but rather their inability to have the TIME to make food. It's hard to keep a well-stocked kitchen when you're barely home too... and when they are home, they might be too exhausted to cook and just opt for take-out there too. We've seen that even in the bunker, there is mostly just pizza, beer, and chinese containers in their fridge (the rare times we've seen a glimpse of the bunker fridge.)

Seeing her as popular kid/potential prom queen was a disconnect, and although it was explained as a setup by the boyfriend, I'd think there would have to be a bit more of her changing to fit into the high school scene.

I thought that they alluded to it enough - that she had undergone a change in the past year and was doing a lot better now, etc. I didn't find it unbelievable or not in keeping with continuity - though, I did find it suspicious and from the get-go figured that whatever was going on in the town would have to do with Alex's turn-around socially.

...did Alex go to school when she was with the vampire family all those years? Because otherwise how does she have the education to get into high school anyway?

I don't know how things work in America-land, but I didn't see anything wrong with it. I just figured that they either forged her documents to pretend she had been in school, and she caught up at home, or she studied for an aptitude test and was placed in the appropriate grade. I figure that at the very least she would have been home-schooled by her Vamp-mom...the basics of reading, writing, math, etc. I mean, her vamp-mom did "love" her after a fashion and I don't see that as being far-fetched at all. And no offense to high schoolers everywhere, but I don't think it would be hard for anyone dedicated and even remotely intelligent to catch up pretty damn fast. She'd probably have the most trouble in math, which is probably why the chose the kind math teacher as the most significant person to kill first.

As far as ages, I believe Claire turned 18 during her last adventure...And that would make her old enough to be out of the juvenile system.

Ah, thanks! I had forgotten that! So, it's even more important now that she's an "adult" that Jody keep her out of prison!

I wish there would have been more of a misdirect about Claire's hunting efforts, like what she'd been pursuing wasn't a case but then this one shows up, but I guess there wasn't time to do that in 42 minutes.

I actually like the way they did it, because it's more like the girl who cried wolf - only, she genuinely thought there was a wolf each time, so it's not like anyone is actually "in the wrong" in the situation. It's an interesting dynamic when you have a character who gets it wrong 9/10 - because how do you recognize that 1/10 event? It's a harder situation than someone who is 10/10 wrong, but at least they called Sam and Dean into town before a real but-unrelated case arose.

Sam should have been acting a lot more hurt after getting whaled on with the board! Interestingly, when Dean arrived on the scene...It was like he looked, assessed Sam was holding his own, and focused on the girls and Jody. Nice show of confidence in Sam's abilities!

Agree completely! The boy must be black and blue under all those layers.

liliaeth
Feb. 4th, 2016 08:30 pm (UTC)
I like to think that a lot of the things Claire did figure out, where actually caused by the janitor and the jock. It's just that they were trying to stay under cover.

As for Alex doing well in school, I also figure that Alex' mom would have kept up with her schooling, even if only to stay under the radar. Cause sure, you can eat one or two CPS agents coming to check up on you and the kids you've got with you. But if too many of those go missing, you end up with hunters at your door.

I mean, they went after the kind of creeps they did, exactly because those were guys that probably wouldn't be missed.
hells_half_acre
Feb. 4th, 2016 09:46 pm (UTC)
Cause sure, you can eat one or two CPS agents coming to check up on you and the kids you've got with you. But if too many of those go missing, you end up with hunters at your door.

Good point! :)
shadowsong26
Feb. 4th, 2016 11:49 pm (UTC)
I really don’t have much to say about this week’s episode other than so much adorable domesticity YAY! Like…I don’t actually like slice-of-life shows all that much, but a slice-of-life episode once in a while in a show like this? I love it. So I loved last night’s episode kind of a lot.

Yeah, I didn’t pick up on those being birth control pills at first, either. I thought it was maybe like Ritalin or something, and that was why she was now doing better in school? IDK.

I think they mentioned that Claire turned eighteen around when Amelia died? Anyway, it sort of depends on where your birthday falls? Both my siblings were eighteen when they started college, but I was born, like, right on the cutoff date for my year/the year after, so I was 17 when I started college. So, yeah, not out of the realm of possibility that Claire would be starting at 17. But I think she is 18 now--or even if she wasn’t when we last saw her, she could have turned 18 over the summer or something? IDK.

Also, I thought it was so cute how Claire and Alex actually kind of acted like sisters? Or maybe just like me and my sister did, ‘cause we did not get along at all at this age…

I loved the whole ‘sit stay’ moment, too. And basically that entire dinner scene.

Y’know, if we count the six months that never happened in Mystery Spot, Sam has actually done the ‘hide in hunting’ thing, too? But you’re right, that’s really more of a Dean thing…although, as with every other point where you could make that argument about what Sam’s doing it’s less ‘hide from horrible shit’ and more ‘ALL OF THE REVENGE.’ Or something.

Sam did give a pretty awesome talk with Claire, yes.

I love Dean playing Dad. I just. It was adorable.

I actually missed the boyfriend being a vampire, because I’m clearly not very observant…it didn’t exactly surprise me, either, though, so.

I was also glad that Jody and the girls got to participate heavily in their rescue. That was a very nice touch.

The breakfast scene was super adorable. I think my notes from when I was watching say something along the lines of ‘I want twelve.’

I also love how this show is like--we will cement our group bonds by nearly dying. Because now Claire is clearly a fully integrated member of that little family unit, even if Alex is probably going to walk away, and it just amused me. Nothing like Peril to bring a family together!

Anyway, all in all, I loved this episode! So…yeah, not much to add to what you said, heh.
hells_half_acre
Feb. 5th, 2016 01:27 am (UTC)
I thought it was maybe like Ritalin or something, and that was why she was now doing better in school? IDK.

I picked up on it solely because they were pink - because even when birthcontrol pills are white, there is always pink associated with them (if not the pills than the packaging)... because of gender stupidity, I guess. But yeah, it's a good thing they had it clarified later, because you're right, it would have made more sense if it was ritalin or a "study-aid", to explain Alex's improvement in classes.

I think they mentioned that Claire turned eighteen around when Amelia died?

Yeah, someone else pointed that out too - that in her last episode, Claire turned 18 - which was why Cas got her the grumpy cat. So, yeah, I just forgot.

Also, I thought it was so cute how Claire and Alex actually kind of acted like sisters? Or maybe just like me and my sister did, ‘cause we did not get along at all at this age…

I never had an antagonistic relationship with my siblings, but I had friends who did. It was always REALLY weird for me. To this day, I still don't really understand how those relationships function. :P

although, as with every other point where you could make that argument about what Sam’s doing it’s less ‘hide from horrible shit’ and more ‘ALL OF THE REVENGE.’ Or something.

Yes, I think Sam is "all the revenge!", but I was specifically thinking of pre-series and S1 Dean...who hid from any emotional trauma by being SUPER DEDICATED to Hunting.

I also love how this show is like--we will cement our group bonds by nearly dying. Because now Claire is clearly a fully integrated member of that little family unit, even if Alex is probably going to walk away, and it just amused me. Nothing like Peril to bring a family together!

Haha, so true!



supernutjapan
Feb. 5th, 2016 12:52 am (UTC)
You'd think after living such a deprived life, SAM would have learned to cook now that they have a kitchen - but I guess he's too busy looking at funny animal pictures.

GOOD POINT :DDD Yeah, I don't think Sam is that into cooking. Dean should be but we haven't seen it in a while aye?

LOVED the episode. Everyone on my end is like "it was ok..." just because everyone liked the last one so much but I really needed this ep.

AWESOME<3
hells_half_acre
Feb. 5th, 2016 01:11 am (UTC)
Glad you liked the episode!! I understand other people being like "it was just okay" - because it WAS just a MOTW and not very much about Sam or Dean, which is what people tend to want to focus on.

But, man, this episode was so brilliant, if you're willing to be invested in these side-characters.

And no, I don't think we've seen Dean cooking in a while. Maybe he was sick of doing it all himself. Sam should help out more! :P
khek
Feb. 5th, 2016 02:15 pm (UTC)
I really liked this episode, even if I did lose my power twice when it was on. :/

I don't have anything to add to the discussion, but I thought I'd just do a "me too" post to everything! :)
hells_half_acre
Feb. 5th, 2016 07:25 pm (UTC)
Me too posts are always fun!

Sorry to hear about your power difficulties! That's always super frustrating.
percysowner
Feb. 5th, 2016 05:32 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed the episode a lot, although I've hit other people who didn't. I'm not surprised there is a split in fandom, episodes focusing on people other than Sam and Dean (and now Cas and Crowley) tend to be less well liked.

One thing that hit me was Alex offering to be food for the nest "when the hunting goes, dry and it goes dry. Believe me I know." because it convinced me that for all her "family" "loved" her, when their hunting went dry, they fed on her and that was appalling. Even more appalling is that she was fairly calm about it as if it were something she just disassociated herself from.

If we get a spinoff from Supernatural this is the best bet, IMHO. Characters we know and have feelings for, and who have a reason to be in the hunting world. The big question is can Supernatural launch a successful spinoff. So much of what makes Supernatural work is the lightening in a bottle chemistry of Jared and Jensen. That is something really hard to actually cast for. I would love to see them try with a Wayward Daughters series just to see if it would work.
hells_half_acre
Feb. 5th, 2016 07:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not surprised that some people didn't like it. Sometimes you can have an episode focused on someone else, but it still takes a moment to address Sam and Dean's issues - but this one didn't really do that, so yeah... still, I liked it. I don't mind having a break from the brother-angst every now and then. ;)

I totally agree about Alex and how it's clear she disassociated during those times when her "family" would feed off her. The actress did a fantastic job of showing the psychological trauma from her upbringing without even really talking about it as trauma. It was a very well acted scene... and yes, appalling to think about how she was used and abused throughout her childhood.

I think that's partly why this is Supernatural's best bet for a spinoff - the characters are RICH in backstory already. Yes, there's the lightening in a bottle chemistry thing that made SPN great, but personally, I always thought that it was also because we were introduced to these characters not as normal everyday people, but as ALREADY scarred and complex individuals with bizarre childhoods and pasts that we wanted to know more about.

But, you are right that there's also the chemistry thing. I think Kim Rhodes has a ton of chemistry with anyone in a scene - she's just so amazing at connecting with other characters. But it's true that it's nothing like Jared and Jensen, who basically went from strangers to brothers in 1.2 seconds...

I don't know whether this will become a sequel or not, but I think the popularity of the idea will at least tell TPTB what they should be aiming for in a spin-off, should they decide to do one.

I think the greater challenge to an SPN spin-off is that SPN itself is quickly burning through it's universe. Though, I suppose Buffy did the same and they were still able to have Angel too. So, maybe I'm just being overly pessimistic and speaking as someone who, personally, has trouble coming up with plot ideas. ;)
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