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So, standard disclaimer - have watched episode once, while drinking, about an hour ago. Moreover, because the Chicago CW station pre-empted the show, I had to watch it on the Canadian station, which cuts for commercial in different places and sometimes shaves crucial seconds off the show. So, yeah, hopefully I actually saw everything... but still, all quotes will be wrong and I'll remember things out of order. Don't correct me unless it's absolutely crucial to the plot or characters.

Let's just... launch into this.... there's a lot to talk about...

So, we begin where we left off, with Dean slicing my precious Gadreel. Dean's quickly escorted to the dungeon and locked up for his own good. He protests, but Sam is all worried about him. Sam and Cas go back upstairs to discover that Gadreel didn't stick around to die in the bunker, but instead has run off.

They find him not far away dying in a pool of his own blood in the nice tall grass. Personally, I think Gadreel just wanted to die in the open... but we'll get to that. He begs Sam and Cas not to kill him, which breaks my heart, because he obviously figured that Dean's attack was a mutual thing and they consider him un-redeemable. But nope! Cas heals him, even though Gadreel points out that it'll further weaken Cas - who is still living off borrowed grace.

Meanwhile, Dean is throwing up blood in the bunker, which is never a good sign. He summons Crowley, because for some reason he can get passed the bookshelves in that dungeon, but not out of the room, and they keep enough spell ingredients in that storage room for a summoning... great guys, you really planned out that dungeon well (*sarcasm*).

Crowley informs Dean that the Mark of Cain basically kills you once you start killing with it - if you don't KEEP killing with it, then you die. I did like the line "The least best result" or whatever it was. That was amusing. Dean points out that Cain was still alive, and Crowley points out that Cain was a demon, not a human... that human bodies aren't meant to contain that power.

Okay, now a sidenote about TAGGING YOUR SPECULATION. Listen... I know I have the strictest spoiler policy known to man, but guys, when actors give interviews before a finale, you don't just need to tag those interviews as spoilers, you also have to tag you SPECULATION about those interviews as spoilers, because you are SPECULATING ON SPOILERS. Even if you don't NAME the spoilers or quote them, or reference them in anyway. So, people like me, see your speculation, and realize that you've read interviews that allude to things that caused you to HAVE that speculation, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out what the spoilers are... especially when you're someone like me who can extrapolate a LOT of information from just a hint of information. It's a gift and a curse. ANYWAY, I was sort of pissed off about it all.... because yeah, basically as soon as Crowley said "but Cain was a demon" I knew that all the stupid goddamn untagged speculation I had seen about the finale was correct and the surprise at the end of the episode was effectively ruined. I have ONE SHOW, ONE SHOW, GUYS! Where I try not to be spoiled, and I CAN'T EVEN HAVE THAT! Ugh.

Anyway, the good news was that Gadreel was still alive....

Sam, Cas, and Gadreel get back to the bunker to discover that Dean's escaped with the First Blade. And then we go to commercial, and I make a joke about how Sam obviously shouldn't leave rooms because the people he wants to stay in those rooms while he's gone disappear! It's like toddlers who haven't learned object permanence yet, except that it's TRUE! I was amused.

We come back from commercial and I realize that everything is awesome, because not only do we continue the awesomeness that is the Sam+Cas team-up, we also have Gadreel in the team too! Sam is on a team with TWO angels, guys!! It's great!! I need someone to write me a fic that goes AU at that point and just has Sam, Cas, and Gadreel having awesome adventures...

We don't go AU at that point though...instead, Gadreel learns about how Dean got the Mark of Cain, and he agrees with Dean that the First Blade is actually their best bet for defeating Metatron... but that they also have to figure out how to cut off Metatron's power source, which is the angel tablet.

Oh, I'm actually forgetting to talk about Metatron. So, while all this is going on. Metatron is up in heaven typing and being interrupted by his super adorable PA. Seriously, that adorable angel loves the Notebook. He's a romantic in a cardigan, and he's all smiley and stuff... and I kind of love him a little. (For the record, I've never seen the Notebook, and I probably wouldn't like it, but I still like adorable cardigan wearing Notebook-fan angels.)

Anywho, Metatron's current game is to get humanity to worship him as God too. He posses as a homeless dude and saves a woman's life after she gets smucked by a car because she walks out into traffic while chatting on her phone. I feel there is a lesson here for all of us. Metatron gives his name as Marv... dude, if Metatron is all about providing a better brand, he should really do research into what constitutes a catchy brand name.

So, Crowley and Dean stop into a burger joint so that Dean can use the wifi and try to track down Metatron. Crowley gives him a hardtime about treating the waitress right, and then reiterates that he kicked the blood habit and he's not getting soft... BUT, we also know from his earlier message scene that I forgot to talk about, that he's not exactly running hell with his usual fervor either and the demons are still antsy about having him as a leader. Furthermore, Crowley gets all existential-crisis about Dean and Sam's lifestyle. It's all rather fishy.

Some of Crowley's goons show up and show him the video of Metatron's miracle, which gives Dean a destination and a lead to check out... (also, who's with me on how absolutely creepy Marv whispering in that girl's ear looked? SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY CREEPY.) BUT, the crucial thing in this scene is that Dean leaves without eating his burger.... causing Crowley to make the "interesting..." face.

Oh hey, when was Dean's line about shower sex? I can't remember now... but DAMN, I loved that line. Shower sex IS complicated. I have only tried to have it once in my life for this reason.. I then concluded that the shower was a foreplay-only zone, no matter what porn tries to tell us.

(Oh my god, guys, I'm so early in the review and I'm so tired...okay, powering through...)

Back to the investigation... Dean makes it to the woman's trailer home to interview her, and Sam is already there! Dean prepares himself for a fight, but Sam actually comes in peace - telling Dean that yes, he's still mad, because Dean stabbed their only help, and Dean points out that Gadreel was the one that took Sam on a joyride and he deserved to be stabbed for that - and Sam points out that, much like Sam's possession, THAT is not Dean's decision to make, because it's SAM that has nightmares about killing Kevin and it's SAM that is suffering all the consequences of Gadreel, and so it's up to SAM whether Gadreel dies for trying to be helpful in the worst way possible or if he deserves a shot at redemption - and Sam's kind of big on redemption, given his own experience.

Anyway, it's good the boys are talking... Sam tells Dean that it turns out Dean's right and the blade IS their best shot, and that Cas and Gadreel, who are Dean's REAL friends (unlike Crowley who Sam assumes is using Dean to his own ends) are both up in heaven trying to help him kill Metatron. Dean sends Crowley away, and Crowley says he's been "Winchester-ed" - which, here, I think means "disguarded when no longer useful" which is what Crowley has been accusing the boys of since 8x01 at least.

Meanwhile, Gadreel and Cas are in a playground... and Cas's big plan is to use the "Wookie" trick from Star Wars IV and have Gadreel walk him into Heaven as a pretend prisoner. And I LOVE LOVE how Cas is so proud of himself when he holds up the cuffs and says "Wookie" - HE IS LEARNING TO APPLY POP CULTURE KNOWLEDGE TO REAL WORLD SCENARIOS... and the only thing I love more than that is Gadreel being like, "I have no idea what you are talking about, brother." BROTHER! Oh god, the feelings I have. I need someone to write me an AU starting at this point where Gadreel and Cas become brothers and go off and be giant dorks together. I love them so much.

Sadly, that doesn't happen... but we'll get to that....

Meanwhile, Metatron is infiltrating the homeless population..., a really surprisingly murderous homeless population.... and when an angel among the homeless calls Metatron out on being a big faking faker with a messiah complex, the homeless people all kill him. Yeah... that's not disturbing at all... NOT AT ALL.

Also, since when are homeless people up on the latest viral videos? I mean, in Canada, a phone with a data-plan is $50/month minimum. You'd think that money could better go towards food and/or shelter. But anyway...

Cas and Gadreel walk into heaven, and at first it looks like everything is going to plan, but sadly, it is not! Instead they are lead into Metatron's office and the office promptly turns into jail cells. Gadreel, quite rightly, freaks the fuck out... and it is sad times forever.

Meanwhile, Dean and Sam arrive at the homeless camp... or, down the road from it. Dean tries to give Sam a goodbye speech, but Sam cuts him off, as is their tradition since S5 at least, where they DON'T give mushy speeches before the boss fight, in the hopes that the other person already knows how they feel. So, instead of whatever speech Dean was going to give Sam, he instead punches Sam unconscious.... tells him that it's not Sam's fight, and then goes in alone.

Jump back up to heaven, and we have Hannah talking to Castiel... Castiel trying to tell her the truth, trying to convince her that Gadreel and him are telling the truth - about the suicide bombers, about all of it. Hannah's big mistake here is that she's so focused on Castiel that she dismisses Gadreel completely as a lackey. Gadreel, meanwhile, can't think of anything worse than rotting away in prison for another eternity, so he makes himself into a suicide bomb with the help of some broken stones...and yeah, tells them that the problem with heaven is that they all forgot their primary mission - to protect humanity - and then... yeah... it is sad times forever for me. Oh Gadreel... we could have had it all.

Castiel gets to be like "HANNAH! DO YOU HONESTLY THINK HE JUST BLEW HIMSELF UP FOR A LIE, YOU IDIOT!" And Hannah is like "oh damn, you have a point." And off they go to Metatron's office to try to find the tablet.

Dean has found Metatron already though... and they are chatting. Metatron is all cocky, because he knows Cas and Gadreel are locked up. Dean blames everything that has gone wrong in the past year on Metatron, because if it weren't for the angels falling, then I guess he figures Cas could have healed Sam... or vetted the angel that did... and Kevin wouldn't be dead... and Dean wouldn't have the Mark of Cain that's either going to turn him into a monster or kill him... and Sam would still be his loving brother and whatnot... and yeah., so, Dean attacks, even though Metatron tells him that Cas and Gadreel have failed their mission.

Dean gets a good hit in, and yeah, the fact that Dean can draw blood from angels is pretty cool... but Metatron soon gets the upper-hand and beats Dean to a pulp just as Sam runs into the warehouse... and then Metatron stabs Dean with an angel blade... and the damn channel cuts to commercial! ARG!

When we come back, it's to Dean falling over, and Sam yelling "no" and vaulting over obstacles to get to Dean. Just as all this happens, Cas finds the angel tablet inside Metatron's typewriter, and shatters it.... Sam quickly pulls the angel blade out of Dean (which, I have to say, with my limited medical knowledge, will probably only speed up his death), and goes to stab Metatron, but Metatron disappears before he can.

Sam then starts chanting his "no"s... and yeah...

Metatron arrives in heaven to find Cas cuffed to Metatron's chair. He gloats that Cas has lost... that Cas is a hypocrite, because YES, Metatron wanted to be God, but Cas himself is super selfish because everything he did that year was just to save Dean, even if he cloaked it in the desire to save Heaven... and Metatron accusses him of this, basically just so that he can tell Cas that he failed at EVERYTHING because Dean is dead... and we actually get to see Cas' heartbreak while he tries to keep his face completely neutral and himself on task... because Cas gets Metatron to admit that all the angels are sheep and that Metatron is going to have humanity bowing down to him next...

And Castiel, no doubt also using the pop culture knowledge that Metatron bestowed upon him, has actually pulled the old "you're on speaker" trick and Metatron was broadcasting his evil plan to all of angel kind the whole time. He is quickly arrested and locked away... because, I guess Cas really meant it when he said that he didn't want any more angels to die.

I've gotten ahead of the chronology of the show though - because we also have Sam dragging a dying Dean out of the warehouse. We have Sam telling Dean that he was lying when he said that he'd let Dean die, and Dean finally realizing that Sam really WAS lying... then we have Dean telling Sam that he's proud of them... and then we have Dean dying...

And oh my heart... but can I also just say that I love how CLEAN Sam is in this scene. Dean is absolutely covered in blood, and Sam's just so clean... and I love it... it really echoes where the character's souls are at the moment, I think... as horrifying as that is for Dean fans.

Sam sobbing is sad, but what REALLY breaks my heart is the scene where Sam puts Dean's dead body in Dean's bedroom in the bunker...like... like he's just sleeping or something. Like Sam thought that if he just got him home and into bed, it would all somehow be magically better.

Sam drinks in the dark while they play one of my favourite songs... and then he goes down to the dungeon where Dean's left out all the summoning gear....

Much like Dean blamed Metatron for every single thing that had gone wrong this season, I think Sam blames Crowley... but still very much in the "the person who broke this should fix it" camp, Sam decides to summon Crowley to try to get Dean back.

Meanwhile, in Heaven, Hannah still wants Castiel to be a leader - Castiel still doesn't want to be a leader... Hannah also points out that Castiel is running out of stolen grace, and once he does, he DIES... and Castiel is like "I just want to be an angel again"... and it reminds me so much of End!Cas... because it makes me realize that although I, personally, actually LOVE human!Cas, Cas isn't meant to be human. He's meant to be an angel and it's really the only state in which it's possible for him to be truly happy. He's not Anna. He may have been jealous of her freedom and free will way back in the day, but that doesn't mean that he'd be happy as a human like she had been.

Back to the Bunker... where Crowley is watching Dean...continue to be dead. He tells Dean how Sam is summoning him as they speak, how it's all "expected"... and how Crowley wants Dean to know that he didn't know that this would happen, that he knew more than he let on, but he didn't know everything, and that it's important for Dean to know that Crowley never lied to him... and then he tells Dean that there was a story about how Cain died... and the he puts the blade in Dean's hand and tells Dean to open his eyes.

And we get Demon!Dean.

FIN.

So, again, if it hadn't been for the damned fans not tagging their speculation and those damned interviews at the upfronts, that last shot would have been far more epic for me - I mean, it was still epic, but at that point, I just expected it.... and that wasn't as fun for me.

I know some people are probably pissed off about this storyline, because they really love it when the brothers are a united good force against the forces of evil... but we all watch the show for different reasons. Personally, I'd love a good arc where we actually get to see Sam successfully rescue Dean. Sam KNOWS that Dean wouldn't want this end... Dean told him himself just before he died - that it was better this way because he didn't like what he was becoming. What's more, they know how to cure a demon! Sam nearly cured CROWLEY, so yeah... my hope for S10 is a "Sam saves the day" arc. Furthermore, if Dean's our damsel/baddie, then this might mean more Sam+Cas team-up, which you all know that I love, because I just love how kind of weird and awkward Sam and Cas' dynamic is, because they DON'T have the weird shippable-tension that Dean and Cas have (IMHO).

So, I am suitably intrigued!

It's going to be a long 5 months!

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments... but remember, if you are too negative-nelly, then you have to counter with positive points too!

(I'm a little bit behind in my timelining, but you can probably expect me to post the S9 timeline both here and on the SuperWiki at some point next week. Fair warning though, that they gave me pretty much nothing to work with this year, so the timeline is mostly just how many days long each episode was and where everyone traveled to and not so much full of actual dates.)

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strgazr04
May. 21st, 2014 09:01 am (UTC)
Ok haven't finished reading all this yet but I just had to say that this: "Crowley informs Dean that the Mark of Cain basically kills you once you start killing with it - if you don't KEEP killing with it, then you die. I did like the line "The least best result" or whatever it was. That was amusing. Dean points out that Cain was still alive, and Crowley points out that Cain was a demon, not a human... that human bodies aren't meant to contain that power." Clears up so much! How did I miss that! And did they say Cain was a demon way back when we met him? idk. But I guess it should have clued us in that Dean's been dying this WHOLE TIME slowly each day, with each fight. So now I'm guessing his soul is tainted since clearly he's not possessed. How do you come back from that? His human soul is dead. The guy was thrown into a cement wall and stabbed in the chest. So what does that leave us? *the countdown to Oct begins*
etoile444
May. 21st, 2014 01:15 pm (UTC)
I dont think his soul is dead. A demon has the humanity burned out of the soul, hence the black smoke. I think if Crowley ingests blood to be human perhaps Dean can do something like that. His situation is unique because he has a demon soul but in his own body.
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frozen_delight
May. 21st, 2014 09:09 am (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what I'm feeling yet beyond "Sammy, oh, SAMMY!!!" I just wish Season 10 would start right next week. How are we supposed to survive until October???

On a slightly different note: Isn't it funny that Metatron seems to have picked up a trick or two from Sherlock? Such as: Go to the Homeless People. They can help you with all your weird plans. :)
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 09:16 pm (UTC)
Haha, yeah, I also thought the homeless thing was interesting, since that's where Cas spent his first few weeks on earth.
ladykorana
May. 21st, 2014 10:36 am (UTC)
1. I was not surprised by the ending one bit. Thanks, Jensen, for the spoilers. Also, Jared over-hyped everything so much I don't think much of anything could have shocked me, short of wiping out the whole earth and having the series end there.

2a. The bunker's prison is pathetically easy to get out of.
2b. So you keep a full stash of demon-summoning equipment/ingredients right by your prison. Smart.

3. Dean with black eyes is fucking SCARY. Thought so in season 3 'Dream a Little Dream of Me', still think so.

4. Sammy, my heart! Thank you for standing up for yourself and your feelings, making them clear, and then moving on and forgiving like you always do eventually.

5. Though I still feel like it was kinda rushed. When you create a rift THAT big between the bros, it deserves more than a couple lines to really fix everything.

6. I look forward to the epic adventures of Sam and Cas as they struggle to save Dean!

7. Poor Gadreel, killed off just when I was really starting to like him and want more.

8. So does this mean souls aren't trapped in the Veil anymore? Did they force Metatron to reverse the spell keeping Heaven closed or what? Shouldn't Cas be demanding his Grace back about now? Argh, I wanted all this stuff wrapped up, not dangling around for another season, distracting us from the Winchesters again.

9. I'm composing a dark/sexy AU in my head where Sam drinks demon!Dean's blood and together they're so powerful they overthrow Crowley and rule Hell together. But they keep Crowley around, placated with human blood, and he manages the kennel of hellhounds for them. :)

wow, that got really long, really fast.
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 09:15 pm (UTC)
1-4 - agreed!

5. Though I still feel like it was kinda rushed. When you create a rift THAT big between the bros, it deserves more than a couple lines to really fix everything.

I don't think it was really "fixed" - I think the boys have WAY more to work out, and the only thing that was "fixed" was getting Dean to stop believing that Sam meant it when he said he'd let him die, or whatever Dean believed. That's just one thing. It's like.. if you got Syria to stop killing innocent citizens, that wouldn't fix the problems in Syria.

6-7 - agreed!

So does this mean souls aren't trapped in the Veil anymore? Did they force Metatron to reverse the spell keeping Heaven closed or what? Shouldn't Cas be demanding his Grace back about now? Argh, I wanted all this stuff wrapped up, not dangling around for another season, distracting us from the Winchesters again.

Yeah, and sadly I think we do have to wait until S10 to get these questions answered. I don't think Cas CAN get his grace back... it was an ingredient in a spell, and I think spells tend to destroy their ingredients. I could be wrong though... I hope I'm wrong! I don't want Cas to die, and although I do love him as a human, I know that he'd be miserable as one.

I'm composing a dark/sexy AU in my head where Sam drinks demon!Dean's blood and together they're so powerful they overthrow Crowley and rule Hell together. But they keep Crowley around, placated with human blood, and he manages the kennel of hellhounds for them. :)

Mmmm... yes.
borgmama1of5
May. 21st, 2014 12:55 pm (UTC)
My very first thought when Gadreel offed himself was that you were going to be sad...

Cain was human when he killed Abel, so I interpret Crowley's story to mean that Cain dying with the Mark on him turned him into a demon. If Dean is a demon, not merely possessed, is he curable? And if he is cured, won't that mean the wounds of his body will kill him, a la Meg in 'Devil's Trap' back in season 1?

I'm just sad. I never liked the way Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, and I am sad that Dean, who fought to stay human all these years, has gone darkside...and not even voluntarily, he was tricked.

OTOH I guess we will get lots of Sam and Cas trying to save him...
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 09:09 pm (UTC)
My very first thought when Gadreel offed himself was that you were going to be sad...

Aww... and I was.

If Dean is a demon, not merely possessed, is he curable? And if he is cured, won't that mean the wounds of his body will kill him, a la Meg in 'Devil's Trap' back in season 1?

I think Dean is curable. There's only one type of demon, possessed or not. In terms of the wounds on his body, I bet those could go either way... but Dean DOES have a BFF with access to all the angels in heaven, so if he were to be cured, I'm sure they could get someone to his side asap to heal his wounds.

Though, of course, I make it sound so easy - so I'm sure they'll through some curve ball at me once the season starts back up.

I'm just sad. I never liked the way Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, and I am sad that Dean, who fought to stay human all these years, has gone darkside...and not even voluntarily, he was tricked.

That's how I felt about Sam at the end of S4. And that turned out okay - granted, he wasn't as far gone as Dean currently seems to be, but I'm sure they'll save him somehow.

OTOH I guess we will get lots of Sam and Cas trying to save him...

I really hope we do! I know that a lot of people at the end of S3 were super excited for Sam saving Dean from hell and then super bummed when he was just pulled out by Castiel and Sam didn't get to save him - so, I'm hoping that I'm not setting myself up for a similar disappointment... but MAN, I really want Sam to successfully save Dean ONCE in his life and I love love love Sam and Cas team-ups.
etoile444
May. 21st, 2014 01:17 pm (UTC)
I have lots of thoughts. I will just stick to Cas for the moment. Gadreel was redeemed. I loved Cas' words to him. Cas was very calm and stable throughout. I really liked him. Hope he doesnt do anything stupid. He ends the episodd believing Dean is dead.
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 09:02 pm (UTC)
Agreed, agreed. I'm interested to see what happens to Cas next. I will admit that my friends and I made a few comments wondering why the hell Cas didn't go see Dean and Sam for himself right away, rather than chatting outside Metatron's cell... and seeming to take his time with things. But then, perhaps all the angels are still depowered. We don't know the full extent of what can and can't be corrected now that Metatron is locked up.
jeymien
May. 21st, 2014 02:20 pm (UTC)
"Game of Thrones is complicated. Shower sex — that’s complicated. Hell ain’t complicated.” Such a great line. :)

Also - his last words. So heartbreaking!

Gadreel's suicide - redemption. Another sad thing, that in order to redeem himself, he believed he had to do that.. and him being the one to remind them all what it was all about. Protecting humanity. *sigh*

And yeah, they found a way for the Curse of Immortality part of the Mark of Cain. Cursed to be a human demon. I mean... he's not a smoke monster demon, he's in his body, he's himself.. and he's a demon. That is a curse, especially for a "righteous man" like Dean.

Also, Metatron.. is he forgetting the Ten Commandments? I mean, he was setting himself up as God - #1 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. I mean - that's the very first one! I really wish there was more of God in this - other than someone saving the Winchesters when Lucifer was released and bring Castiel back from being blown up by the arch angel protecting Chuck. But I suppose if you go New Testament, God works in mysterious ways. Through Castiel, the Winchesters, etc. Meh. Still. I don't think keeping Metatron alive is a good idea.

Ugh, waiting till September/October is gonna suck!

Edited at 2014-05-21 02:23 pm (UTC)
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 09:00 pm (UTC)
Gadreel's suicide - redemption. Another sad thing, that in order to redeem himself, he believed he had to do that.. and him being the one to remind them all what it was all about. Protecting humanity. *sigh*

*echoes your sigh*

he's not a smoke monster demon, he's in his body, he's himself.. and he's a demon. That is a curse, especially for a "righteous man" like Dean.

Who's to say he's not a smoke monster demon? He's in his own body, yes, but Ruby took over a body that had just died and Dean was made INSTA-Demon, so he obviously also just took over a body that had just died - his own.

I do agree that it's a horrible curse for Dean to have and would be the last fate that he'd wish upon himself... to become what he hated.

I really wish there was more of God in this - other than someone saving the Winchesters when Lucifer was released and bring Castiel back from being blown up by the arch angel protecting Chuck. But I suppose if you go New Testament, God works in mysterious ways. Through Castiel, the Winchesters, etc. Meh.

I had a similar thought. Even back in S4-5, you still had the feeling that although God wasn't around, he was still somehow there, backing the Winchesters... at least, that's how it felt to me... now though, he really feels absent. You do have to wonder how bad it has to get before he intervenes... but then, this is a humanist show (or was under Kripke) so probably the whole point is that God is completely absent and not to be relied upon.


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thestarkat
May. 21st, 2014 05:49 pm (UTC)
Yes! I wish people wouldn't even mention that something would be shocking. Because then we're all set to be shocked, and then we are not shocked.

I hadn't quite seen the demon-thing coming, but it was more of an, 'Oh. That's what they meant,' thanks to all the interviews, rather than, 'Holy shit! Holy shit!'

The 'I'm proud of us' line made me *wibble* a bit. It was nice for the brothers to have that moment of connection. And Sam putting Dean on his bed was definitely a mirror of S2, and a nice moment.
hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 08:50 pm (UTC)
Agreed all 'round!
thursdaysisters
May. 21st, 2014 05:57 pm (UTC)
I agree that this storyline has a lot of great possibilities. Sam could do the Thompson exorcism on Dean or they could rope in Cain, or Dean might start building his own demon army for all we know and then he'd have to fight Castiel. I just wish the show would stick to one tone, it's all over the place.
crownroyal_51
May. 21st, 2014 08:18 pm (UTC)
If Sam were to try to "cure a demon" he'd complete the third trial and die, so I don't think he could do it but maybe someone else.
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pushistyj_koshk
May. 21st, 2014 08:10 pm (UTC)
I never commented on the penultimate episode.

I loved the last three episodes and I liked the ending. I kinda expected it though - there were only a handful ways they could go with this.

You have no idea, what a pain it was - trying to avoid spoilers for a whole freakin' day! I basically just ignored the Internet today - wasn't an easy thing to do. I really feared this finale - I never had to experience an SPN cliffhanger before today (I finished season 8 a couple of days before season 9 started). I'm much more relaxed now and I feel like I'll be fine till October :)
pushistyj_koshk
May. 21st, 2014 08:15 pm (UTC)
I have one thought - will Sam try to sacrifice himself to cure demon!Dean next season? I bet he will...
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shayheyred
May. 21st, 2014 08:27 pm (UTC)
I for one had not been spoiled and I was suitable excited by the ending...but I fear for Castiel, weirdly. And damn, I did have feelings for that Gadriel, man. But meanwhile I'm still pissed about Tessa.

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hells_half_acre
May. 21st, 2014 08:43 pm (UTC)
I am also still pissed about Tessa.

Glad you managed to not be spoiled! I guess it would help if I just didn't spend as much time on the internet as I do - but I have very poor self-control when it comes to that. :P

I'm also worried about Castiel - I don't know how the heck he's going to get out of this mess. I mean, yes, Metatron is locked up, but Heaven is leaderless - and Cas doesn't want to be leader, and moreover, he's basically terminally ill unless he consumes other angels or finds a way to safely become human again.
shadowsong26
May. 22nd, 2014 02:03 am (UTC)
Gadreel broke my heart into infinite tiny pieces this week. Which is actually nothing new, because he often has and his archetype is, as I've mentioned before, like catnip to me. And it wasn't exactly unexpected, but. My heart. That whole 'please don't hurt me any more I'll leave you alone' and then his reaction to being back in the prison and then his speech about redemption before kablooey and that held up against him and Cas having Moments and...oh, man. Gadreel this episode.

(I don't know what it says about me that, soul-crushing as it was, Gadreel's death is one of my favorite moments from this episode/season. I just feel like...it was really well staged/executed, between Cas not quite getting it at first and then trying to talk him down and Hannah scrambling for the keys and Gadreel just begging to be forgiven...so it joins the list of 'shadowsong26's favorite scenes which often seem to involve the deaths of her favorite characters'. Yeah.)

I kind of loved Crowley listening in/playing peanut gallery by the trailer, when Sam and Dean met up again, and the two of them were just 'nope, sorry, bye now.'

Sam does need to stop leaving people alone, you're right, lol.

Metatron's radio angel was adorable. And Metatron himself...I just...ugh. He kind of lost all the 'you're actually kind of smart' points he gained last episode here. I mean, yeah, sure, it's a reasonably smart play, with the Messiah thing, but...I don't know, I almost liked him last week and now I'm back to straight-up loathing him again.

[Side note, and I know this is totally me grasping at straws, but--the town where Metatron chose to do his Jesus impersonation was the town where Gabriel, as MetaGabriel put it, 'died for your sins.' That has to mean something, right???? On a more serious note, thinking back, there's actually kind of a lot of Messianic stuff going on this season? Between Sam's aborted Messianic arc, Metatron's carefully constructed one, what looks like Crowley trying to shape Dean into a dark/demonic Messiah, Gadreel's redemptive self-sacrifice, and all the specific references to previous storylines on the subject...When it's all on Netflix and I can marathon with subtitles for proper quoting purposes, I think I might tease that out. But for now, I'm the kind of Gabriel fan that made inhuman noises when they said 'Muncie, Indiana.' Because Hammer of the Gods.]

Crowley's current mental state remains an utter mystery to me. I can't tell if he there was any trace of genuine feeling in his comments about the waitress or if it was just a test for Dean's relative demonicness.

I kind of want to know who the anonymous angel who Metatron's cult murdered was...oh, s9 and its interesting setups with no follow-through...

Cas' plan to expose Metatron was brilliantly executed.

You have a very good point about the clean vs bloody in Dean's most recent death scene. And about Sam blaming Crowley for everything the way Dean blames Metatron for everything.

I wasn't super-surprised about Dean becoming a demon at the end? Like someone else in the comments mentioned, there weren't too many places they could take the MoC stuff, and that seemed one of the likeliest. Even without the spoilery interview and stuff. It will be interesting to see where they'll take it.

And I absolutely agree with you about wanting a Sam Saves Dean arc in the next season, especially with lots of Sam and Cas working together. I'm wondering whether Dean will try to stay with Sam and hide what he is now, or if he'll bolt, or...IDK what will happen. And I'm curious what will happen with Cas, and if Hannah will take control of the Host now(?), and what shenanigans Metatron will get up to from his prison cell, and if the dangling Gabriel thread will be picked up (which I hope it will but I know it probably won't :(), and if Crowley will actually get control over Hell again, and...

Yeah, I'm intrigued for s10. We'll see where we go from here...

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hells_half_acre
May. 23rd, 2014 12:34 am (UTC)
soul-crushing as it was, Gadreel's death is one of my favorite moments from this episode/season. I just feel like...it was really well staged/executed, between Cas not quite getting it at first and then trying to talk him down and Hannah scrambling for the keys and Gadreel just begging to be forgiven.

Agreed.

but--the town where Metatron chose to do his Jesus impersonation was the town where Gabriel, as MetaGabriel put it, 'died for your sins.' That has to mean something, right???? On a more serious note, thinking back, there's actually kind of a lot of Messianic stuff going on this season? Between Sam's aborted Messianic arc, Metatron's carefully constructed one, what looks like Crowley trying to shape Dean into a dark/demonic Messiah, Gadreel's redemptive self-sacrifice, and all the specific references to previous storylines on the subject..

Interesting points! I, too, will wonder if they mean something... I hope at least one of them does.

Crowley's current mental state remains an utter mystery to me. I can't tell if he there was any trace of genuine feeling in his comments about the waitress or if it was just a test for Dean's relative demonicness.

Same here. I'm actually finding Crowley a more intriguing character as a result - to tell you the truth, I was kind of bored of him before this season. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Mark Sheppard, but I felt the character had stagnated. I'm happy this has changed and I'm once again interested in what the future holds for him.

And I'm curious what will happen with Cas, and if Hannah will take control of the Host now(?), and what shenanigans Metatron will get up to from his prison cell, and if the dangling Gabriel thread will be picked up (which I hope it will but I know it probably won't :(), and if Crowley will actually get control over Hell again, and...

Same! I mainly want the dangling Gabriel thread to be picked up again because I agree with Hannah that SOMEONE needs to run Heaven, but I also agree with Cas that it shouldn't be him... so, yeah... I think it'd be good timing for Gabriel to come back. But, having said that, I realize that Gabriel would SOLVE problems, and Supernatural is not in the business of actually solving their problems.
pushistyj_koshk
May. 22nd, 2014 08:11 am (UTC)
I have an unrelated question. Do you have another blog? On dreamwidth or a standalone? Livejournal has been successfully going to the dogs for quite a few years now and I wouldn't be surprised in the least, if one day there is suddenly no LJ at all. Would be nice to know, where to find you :)
hells_half_acre
May. 23rd, 2014 12:28 am (UTC)
Hello!

I have a dreamwidth, which I mainly use as a back-up to this journal... so every few months I go over there and import entries from LJ. Because it's an import though, some things don't make it - like the links on the clothing catalogue link back to LJ and pages that I UPDATE (like the timeline) don't get updated. So it's an imperfect backup.

Other than that, you can find me on tumblr at unpredictableevil.tumblr.com ... but because of my harshest of harsh spoiler policy, I find I can't actually follow back many fellow supernatural fans, unless they are VERY good at tagging their spoilers. As a result, I don't actually blog that much about Supernatural on tumblr - it's mostly a tumblr full of attractive men and whatever secondary fandom I'm currently into - so, Teen Wolf, and Marvel, and such.

For fic, I'm on AO3.
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cappy712
May. 23rd, 2014 03:50 am (UTC)
Thank you for the recap and yes Jensen did a marvelous job through the episode.

Something that I've pointed out to a few people who said the same thing as you did - with the last part you said about Sam knowing how to cure a demon - yes he does (they do) the problem is Dean is not possessed in the normal sense of possession. He doesn't have a demon possessing his body - like Meg possessing Sam or even Crowley inside the body of that somewhat successful literary agent. If I'm correct - Dean became a demon as a result of the mark not possession - this is different. I can't wait to see how they work it too - remember when he met Cain and Cain was blasting the demons that were attacking with the glowing red light - that was cool.

The thing that I'm concerned with is the fun loving Dean might never be again - if we remember Demons don't have concern for humanity. How is that going to affect "the family business, hunting things, saving people!" it's going to be an interesting ride in season 10!

hells_half_acre
May. 23rd, 2014 03:58 am (UTC)
I disagree about Sam not being able to cure Dean because he's different. Curing the demon has absolutely nothing to do with what host they are in - the fact that Dean's in his own body shouldn't matter. Crowley's host had nothing to do with curing Crowley, if anything, curing Crowley would have made his possession permanent (that seemed to be where it was headed anyway). Dean can only benefit from being in his own body when cured, since then he's not killing some random dude - but is instead in a vessel that already belongs to him.

That all being said, I'm sure there are tons more complications connected to the mark that will throw a spanner in the works - I just don't believe that Dean being in his own body is the problem.

I DO agree that it's going to be an interesting ride in S10 though!
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