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Quick Reaction: 8x17 Goodbye Stranger

We've just had a doozy of an episode...

Let's see how much I remember and how long this takes me to type up. Set your watches, NOW!

We begin, in media res - or what we think is media res... with Dean stalking through a warehouse, only to be beat up and killed by CASTIEL?! (And geez, Jensen makes a pretty corpse... *cough* ANYWAY...) The lights come up and apparently it's Naomi running simulations, testing Castiel's new programming (reprogramming?) The ultimate test is whether he can kill his best friend on command, and as the camera pans out and we see thousands upon thousands of dead Deans... we're guessing that he passed... and yeah, that's not disturbing at all. NOT AT ALL.

Cut to Dean, who is perfectly fine, thanks, in the bunker... going through old boxes, while Sam typity types on his laptop. You know, Dean, uh, I'm not sure you should be touching a whole bunch of unidentified artifacts kept in boxes with writing that you can't read.... it just, um, seems like a bad idea to me.

Meanwhile, Sam is coughing up blood. Seriously, Sam, I think you might have TB... you should see a doctor, that doesn't have to be fatal anymore. Modern medicine has come a long way.

Dean finds vintage porn! I kind of love the conversation between Dean and Sam about how Dean knows how much a first edition would go for on ebay. I just love their faces through that whole thing. Sam's found a hunt though, so it's off to wherever! But first, the JIG IS UP! Because Dean actually looks in the trashcan and sees Sam's blood covered tissue.

Anyway, despite Sam bleeding and obviously under the weather... they run off to wherever (I seriously forgot where they were this time) and investigate the strange deaths. Sam's suit looks purple in the first guy's house. I think it was a combination of grey suit with purple tie and the lighting, but it seriously looked like Sam was walking around in a purple suit. It made me smile.

Turns out that it's someone killing demons, which is a good thing... but Sam still wants to investigate, because what the heck?

They go to meet a woman who's got her curlers in.. she also knows what the demons are looking for, or at least we're they're looking. And then DEMONS ATTACK! Curler-woman is possessed and Sam is down! And then CAS TO THE RESCUE! BAMF Cas is awesome. I love him.

They sit down with Cas to get some answers before going into question the woman - Dean reveals that he prayed to Cas. Cas tells them he's looking for the other half of the demon tablet... all through the conversation Naomi is giving him step by step instructions... and we see that Cas is still not a very good liar. I'm not sure if it was the "um" or the shifty eyes... or just the body language/tone of voice in general, but damn... not a good liar at all.

Cas leaves to interrogate the demon and Sam and Dean both agree that he's shady... and I love how Cas' just tells them from the other room "I can still hear you, you know. I'm a celestial being." Hahaha, awkward. But before that, I like how Sam asks Dean directly why he prayed for Cas, and Dean doesn't want to tell him - because he would have to admit that he was doubting Sam's ability to look after himself, which, as we know from the last seven seasons, makes Sam very angry.

Interrogation time! Oh, I should also say that I love how Cas calls her the "strange haired demon" before he leaves the room. Curlers are never not funny. Anyway... the demon spills the beans that they've got a hostage who knows where Lucifer's crypts are - and then starts to spill the beans about what Cas is really looking for, and then BAM Cas kills it - because if there's one thing Cas knows, it's that Dean hates being lied to.

And then Cas takes off without them to go to the hotel to get the hostage - and I loved the sequence with Dean and Sam racing across town to join him... it really was a nice subtle way to once again emphasize the power imbalance between them.

And the hostage...is MEG!

I love love LOVE that she used the "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" line... I'm not sure about the rest of you, but personally, that line was seared into my brain as a child... mind you, I'm a huge Star Wars fan (original three only though... yeah, I'm a hipster Star Wars fan, and I'm not apologizing.)

Man, can we just take a moment to appreciate the make-up department in this episode? I mean, here, and later - the beat-up look was SO well done, and disturbing.

Anyway, it turns out that being Yellow-Eyes daughter/lieutenant and then being Lucifer's gofer really gives Meg a knowledge advantage over other demons... even Crowley. Good job, Meg.

She's been sending Crowley's people on fake digs to try to buy herself time... I love Sam getting all indignant and saying "you've been killing people to buy yourself TIME?!" and Meg is just like "I'm a DEMON" Oh man, I laughed. It's right up there with Gabriel's "Hellooo! Trickster!" line... come on, boys, remember who you're talking to!

Cas is reluctant to kill Meg, and convinces Naomi that they could use her... and Naomi agrees, because she wants that angel tablet just as much as Crowley does. So, Meg gets a pass, for now.

So, it's off to irgendwo to tend to Meg's wounds and come up with a plan or something... oh! I remember, irgendwo is that dude's house with the model of the town - ala Betelgeuse.

Cas actually uses bandages on Meg... why can't he just heal her? I'm not sure. Anyway, it makes for good conversation... which I liked a lot. I'll say it again, as I said it in S6, I think Meg represents freedom for Castiel. She's a symbol. I think it's why he kissed her in S6 and I think it's why he still has a soft spot for her - she was a test of his boundaries. If he could kiss a demon, then he could do anything - being "friendly" with a demon goes against the very nature of being an angel, and it's the ultimate symbol of Castiel's free will. Now, before destiel shippers get mad at me - I'm not saying it means that he wants to be with her, what I'm saying is that he wants to be ABLE to be with her... it's an important difference. And really, I think Castiel represents something similar for Meg... "I feel so clean" she said after he kissed her the first time... and Meg has probably been a demon for a very long time, but part of me wonders if there's still a part of her that might thrill a little at the thought of redemption...or maybe Cas just represents freedom for her too, or possibly the only frontier left.

I loved their dialogue too. Cas still hasn't seen It's a Wonderful Life. Reading a book could kill him if it was a book of the right spells... seeing a movie would be okay though. And yes, Cas DOES know how to make lady parts go a quiver... good to know, good to know. ;)

And Cas isn't crazy and he's not back to what he was before... He's just himself. I liked that too.

Meanwhile, Sam and Dean are chatting, wondering if they can trust "Megstiel"... hehehe, oh Sammy, you've been brushing up on your ship names. And they decide they pretty much have to...

When they get to the abandoned warehouse (and why is it always an abandoned warehouse?) Dean makes Sam stay outside with Meg while he and Cas go in. I really can't say enough about the dialogue in this episode - I loved Sam implying that Cas doesn't count as backup, and then both Sam and Dean saying "Shut-up, Meg!" (Family Guy reference, I'm guessing... and one that I got, even though I haven't watched Family Guy in years.)

And finally, Dean just comes out with the fact that he knows Sam's got TB... and Cas confirms. Or well... it's not TB, OBVIOUSLY... but that something is happening to Sam that Cas can't heal. Part of me is really pulling for the idea that Sam's body is actually just finally purging itself of the demon blood fed to him as a baby... but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Anyway, it wins Dean the argument, because it makes Sam feel all guilty about not telling him - and if there's anything I've learned from my father, the best way to get your way is to use emotional manipulation!

But that means we get to spend time with just Dean and Cas, and time with just Sam and Meg... and that's always fun. Sam spray paints the warehouse while reluctantly telling Meg about the past year with Amelia. And Meg understands, because she was once inside of Sam and knows him pretty well... and I LOVE the fact that they acknowledged this!!! Meg DOES know Sam on a level that other people don't, actually, I'd argue that (possibly besides Dean) there's actually no one on earth that knows him better than Meg does.

I have to admit though that when Meg asked him why he stopped when he hit the dog, I was REALLY hoping that she was going to point out some shady clue that maybe he was acting against his will or something supernatural was going on with his life... because I really think that unless Sam had a mental break, the whole Amelia storyline was out of character. I mean, I've seen some great meta on how it makes sense if you start with the premise that Sam was suffering from a rad case of PTSD, but until the show TELLS us something like that, I think I'm going to continue to be a little POed at that storyline. Also, Meg pretty much hit the nail on the head about how Amelia would have had to have been some special unicorn, and the way she was written, I'm just not seeing that she was. I never did understand what the hell they saw in each other.

(Also, did anyone else get distracted by the fact that "unicorn" is a term in threesome circles?... no? Just me? I'm the only one that knows this? You are now inferring things about my sex life, aren't you.... you are probably not incorrect.)

Meanwhile, Cas and Dean are searching the warehouse, and Dean's trying to figure out what's wrong with Sam, but Cas gets distracted by the task at hand and we don't get any answers besides the fact that something is happening to Sam on a subatomic level.

They find the crypt and Cas zeroes in on the tablet... and then the true test happens! Because Dean opens the angel warded box and takes the tablet out, and Naomi orders Cas to take the tablet. I loved both Jensen's and Misha's performances here. But man, I love that when Dean realizes that Cas is acting weird, he just zeroes in on the first lie that he was told "Tell me how you got back from purgatory and I'll give you the tablet"... and at this point, both Dean and Naomi are testing Cas. If Cas can tell Dean the truth, then Dean can trust him... and if Cas can kill the actual Dean then Naomi knows she has him... and Cas fails both tests really, though he passes Dean's more than Naomi's.

At first though, I must admit I was sitting there yelling "PUT IT BACK IN THE BOX!" as though that would fix everything... but then it occurred to me that it was too late for that. Cas knew where the tablet was and he'd just get someone else to open the box for him eventually.

The fight between Cas and Dean was really well done... Cas had his sword out, but he was actually just using it as a bludgeoning weapon, which to me was a symbol, even when he was beating the shit out of Dean, that he was constantly resisting Naomi... because it would have been over in a flash if he had stabbed Dean the way he had done in the simulations. Instead, he gives Dean time to use his superpower.

And YES, after eight seasons, Dean still has his superpower... the ability to break his friends and family out of mind-control scenarios through the power of their love for him. John, Bobby, Sam, and now Cas! No one is immune!! Cas really is family. :)

And Cas DOES break out of the mind-control and apologize.. and man, the way Dean cringed and started begging when Castiel reached for him was heartbreaking and so well done... but Cas just heals Dean up. He picks up the tablet and GLOWS... and then he decides, or perhaps is influenced by the tablet itself, to keep the tablet away from EVERYONE  - Dean included. Because it's true, if the demon tablet can lock the demons away forever... then the angel tablet can probably lock the angels away, and I don't doubt that despite their love for Cas, the Winchesters would want to do that. Cas is really the only angel that they like, and even he's wrought destruction on earth the likes of which they shouldn't be able to forgive (but they do, because, you know, good intentions?)

But, MEANWHILE OUTSIDE - Demons and Crowley attack! Meg holds them off and tells Sam to run, when it's obvious that he sucks at fighting due to his weakened state. I mean, besides the whole Cas thing, I think sticking with Dean and Cas would have been the safer option for Sam. Meg tells Sam to run and save her unicorn...which was kind of adorable, even though I really do think that Meg and Cas just like each other as symbols.

So, Sam runs in and gets Dean, and then they run out and jump in the car...and part of me kind of thought that they should MAYBE try to rescue Meg from Crowley's clutches... and judging from the way Sam looked back, I think he was thinking the same thing... but on the other hand it's Crowley, and they've never really ever been able to get the jump on him before (though they've come damn close a few times.) Anyway, Meg stabs Crowley's arm and Crowley stabs Meg's... Meg.

And is Meg dead? There's no demon equivalent of burned-angel wings to give us an answer. I know it kind of seemed obviously, but maybe I'm just in the denial stage. She's been the longest surviving villain on the show (really, the recurring character with the longest lifespan since point of introduction)... it seems kind of crazy that this was the end, that Crowley killed her just like that. Part of me wonders if maybe she's like Abbadon and can survive such things somehow... but perhaps the more likely scenario is that really was the end of her. :(

Sam and Dean drive off into the night... and Dean calls Sam out for lying to him. Sam agrees and promises that he won't anymore. Dean quotes the Lord of the Rings at him... and Sam makes fun of him for it. Dean justifies it by saying that it was a Rudy-Hobbit (Sean Astin) quote and "Rudy gets a pass" - but come on, this is hardly the first time Dean's made a LotR reference. "Pit stop at Mount Doom" springs to mind immediately. Dean's a geek.

Meanwhile, Cas is reliving S5 memories and traveling by bus to who knows where.

So, my ONLY quibble with the episode is that when the demon tablet was discovered, Kevin knew it immediately and was compelled to track it down - not only that, he was like a human compass that was pulled right to it... so part of me wonders why we didn't get a phone call from Kevin... or why Kevin can't be used to track down the other half of the demon tablet for that matter.

Other than that MINOR thing, I really loved this episode. The dialogue was fantastic, all the characters had great interactions and relationships... and there was SO MUCH from the rich history of Supernatural that was actually talked about, referenced, and HAD AN EFFECT on the episode. When long-running shows get to their later seasons, there's always going to be more of a danger to cover ground you've already covered as though you haven't covered it before... or have characters interact as though one of them hadn't been inside the other person before (and I mean that in every sense of the word)... and the writers managed to avoid that with this one, and I loved it. (I mean, yes, Dean and Sam are still working on their lying/trust issues - but seriously, when have those issues ever been solved overnight? For instance, I fully recognize all my own psychological issues and ensuing detrimental habits, but do I stop them? Nope.)



In short: Awesome episode was awesome. Can't wait for more!

Comments

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afastmachine
Mar. 21st, 2013 09:01 am (UTC)
I love reading your stuff(when I have time) because it's like you're transposing my brain into your entries :)

Misha did such a good job this episode, I think, showing the conflict and his issues. And the directing + editing was so good in showcasing it. So much love for everything that went into all the scenes with him doubting and the cuts between heaven and earth. Actually, come to think of it, I really really liked the directing and editing in general. It didn't detract from the story at all(no weird zooms!) and really helped emphasize the important things.

One of my pet peeves is when the makeup looks like someone smudged lipstick on the side of their faces for cuts and bruises, but it looked to good tonight, especially with Meg and when Cas beat the shit out of Dean. IDK, I was just really in love with the production values tonight. Everything was so good I literally have only a couple issues with a

I ship Dean/Cas and Meg/Cas no problemo, and so I loved the whole damn episode so much, but especially the scene between Megstiel. I like how they're the unlikely pair, and yet they have their own soft spots for each other, how somehow hate turned into curiosity turned into something more. And I think you're spot-on about the whole freedom thing. It's hilarious for two supernatural creatures to find a touch of freedom and humanity in each other and that brings them together, but it's fitting for Supernatural, I think.

The whole warehouse bit between the four of them was so good. A perfect example of how things can get even better when you throw more characters into the mix. And then Meg and Sam! The continuity was astounding! And I loved it :D
(Side Note: YES! I totally kept giggling at the unicorn reference, because I guess technically I'm a unicorn and idk it just makes me laugh)

God the whole Dean and Cas scene broke my heart so bad. It was amazing and flawless on all counts, but god it was so intense. Misha and Jensen just bounce so well off each other, and it's easy to see why D/C is so popular and even Misha/Jensen, because their chemistry is amazing.
I loved the call-back and confirmation that Cas is family and that Dean's still got it. I know he'll never recognize it(because he didn't 100% succeed) but that was a good moment for him. It could restore some of his faith in himself. He used his superpower(as you put it) and it worked. Dean changed something with just his own will and absolute love(platonic or otherwise). After all the stuff Sam's been through physically/mentally that Dean couldn't just fix with the power of love, it was nice to see something that he could fix.
I was just squealing and almost-crying and my heart was all over my poor bbs. It was just such a powerful scene, the whole thing.

I was kind of upset they didn't try to save Meg, but I think she knew they weren't going to do it, because all three of them knew trying to fight off Crowley was a losing proposition, and that made it slightly more okay. But at the same time not? I don't want to acknowledge that she's dead though. Ever.

And as usual, I cried 'till I laughed(in my soul, at least) because the heart-to-heart was good and I was still getting over Meg when Dean's little quote made me giggle even before Sam pointed it out. I love his sub rosa geekiness.

Maybe the sheer power of the demon tablet(that drew Kevin to it) was broken when Cas shattered it? As for why he had nothing to do with the angel tablet...IDK. I know why from a storytelling POV but I don't how it works in the actual canon.


hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 09:38 am (UTC)
The acting this episode was really phenomenal, I agree. The chemistry they all have with each other is just great. Rachel Minor, I thought, was just excellent in her scenes with Cas and Sam too. Everyone seemed to be on their game.

I absolutely loved the way they cut back and forth between Heaven and earth in the Cas scenes too - it was really well done, and I'm sure it was no easy feat for the director or Misha. I mean, you're basically filming two separate scenes that are going to be woven into one...and so you've got to maintain the exact same mood/expressions for both.

I ship no one in this show :P So, I just love all the different interaction for what it is without taking it further... and yes, I loved the idea that Meg and Cas sort of met in the middle, so to speak, and their middle ground was the humanity that neither of them possess... it's, as you say, kind of hilarious and perfect for the show.

Born Under a Bad Sign is one of my all time favourite episode to this day - so I was just so jazzed to have it referenced so appropriately in the episode.
(Sidenote: Yay! a fellow unicorn! I'm glad I wasn't the only one giggling over that line.)

Fixing things with the power of love is, I think, what the Winchester family business actually IS. That scene was so good...I also think it says a lot about how much Dean HAS forgiven Castiel for S7, because he tells him "this isn't you" - meaning that despite everything that's happened in the past, he knows that Cas would never willingly hurt him... and yeah, man, so many things to break my heart in that scene.

I'm with you in the not acknowledging that Meg is dead. I don't care how deep they bury that casket. ;)

Maybe the sheer power of the demon tablet(that drew Kevin to it) was broken when Cas shattered it? As for why he had nothing to do with the angel tablet...IDK. I know why from a storytelling POV but I don't how it works in the actual canon.

Yeah, I can understand it from a storytelling POV - and also a film-making POV - but I'd still like something that works in canon. My current thesis is that Kevin's gotten better control over his "prophetness" and although he might have felt the pull of the other tablet, he knows that if he steps off that boat, he's probably going to get kidnapped by demons.
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liliaeth
Mar. 21st, 2013 09:40 am (UTC)
Another bit I liked is that the ep proved that Naomi was an actual person/being, and not just a figment in Cas' imagination. Through her meeting with Crowley.

Up to now, I was wondering if she was just something in Cas head, but that luckily isn't the case.
hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 07:06 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I've seen a lot of fan theories on Naomi, so it was cool to have her confirmed as an actual being!
raloria
Mar. 21st, 2013 10:21 am (UTC)
It still irks me as well that we haven't gotten a good explanation about Sam's relationship with Amelia and like you, the more time that goes by the more I'm disliking that whole story arc. Why was it necessary??? It's quickly becoming the Amy issue of this season - something that in retrospect really wasn't necessary. Considering that Dean never met Amelia, I'd still like to think that the whole thing was in Sam's mind. I mean, why film it in the bright, dreamy look like they did? The whole thing is still frustrating.


And YES, after eight seasons, Dean still has his superpower... the ability to break his friends and family out of mind-control scenarios through the power of their love for him. John, Bobby, Sam, and now Cas! No one is immune!! Cas really is family. :)

Yes! I mentioned this to a lesser degree in my review. Totally forgot about John & Bobby, but you're right...this is Dean's superpower. :D

Oh, and I also wondered about why Cas didn't heal Meg's wounds ('cause she's a demon?) and why the boys didn't go back and help Meg at the end. Darn,...I forgot to put that in my review. Gotta go back and add that in. *g*

About Kevin...maybe his job is to decipher the demon tablet but not the angel one? Maybe there's someone else who's been chosen for that task? Just a thought.

I'm still in denial about Meg's death. I figure she went to Purgatory, right? If anyone can get out of there it would be Meg. ;)
liliaeth
Mar. 21st, 2013 10:26 am (UTC)
I'd think that the reason Cas doesn't heal Meg is because the demon itself is an infection. If he tries to heal the body she's using, he'd harm the actual demon infesting said body.
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fannishliss
Mar. 21st, 2013 10:40 am (UTC)
I LOVE that I have to open a separate text box to respond to your metas. :D

I love your analysis of what Meg means to Cas, very insightful. As for what Cas means to Meg -- she kind of lets that cat out of the bag.

The saddest thing for me is that Meg gave the old "cabin in the woods" speech -- the speech that the doomed cop, only three days away from retirement, gives right before he gets killed and the young cop has to revenge. I really wish they would give a good twist here, but it seems unlikely -- Crowley would almost certainly enslave her again if she is still alive, and we don't see that….. I never thought I would be rooting for Meg, but they totally succeeded.

Dean rummaging through the unlabeled boxes -- what a bad plan. I can't believe him. I guess it foreshadows him opening the angel box and taking out the tablet.

I love that there are Lucifer crypts all over the place. filled with like, genie jars and stuff. they should totally ransack that place, right?

"I mean, I've seen some great meta on how it makes sense if you start with the premise that Sam was suffering from a rad case of PTSD, but until the show TELLS us something like that, I think I'm going to continue to be a little POed at that storyline." --- I have to admit I don't really get your stance here….usually great writing is supposed to show not tell, and for me, they fully showed how messed up Sam was. And I actually really respect that Sam doesn't make excuses -- like when Meg says -- i took bullets for you and you didn't even look for me -- not even once? and Sam just kind of shrugs, because he knows it was inexcusable, but he doesn't have any excuses. Otoh, I do think the Amelia thing was BOTH completely OOC, and in a way, in character for Sam -- because while his attraction to her was originally more than a little forced and desperate, it became something real, which I think is legitimate. I think what they saw in each other was made very explicit -- they were both broken and mourning the person they lost …. not the best basis for a relationship in my opinion, but that's what it was. I don't think it would have worked out in the long run, because I would want someone stronger for Sam than Amelia. But in a sense, I was happy that he knew her for that year, because it gave him an opportunity to experience the blossoming of a relationship (stunted though I think it really was) -- which seems to have healed something in him, the possibility that it still could be something he could have.

Man they really taunted me with that Megstiel. I love a redemption story and it was looking pretty awesome and mutually attractive to Meg and Cas there for about 30 seconds. :(

I was thinking there was another meaning to unicorn -- I went and googled it. :D

I like how you've identified Dean's superpower. It really is true. :D

Re the minor quibble, I'm pretty sure that Kevin is the prophet for his specific tablet -- other tablets would have their own prophets -- and now Cas is the prophet for that one, which is kind of dead cool. :D

hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 07:03 pm (UTC)
I love that there are Lucifer crypts all over the place. filled with like, genie jars and stuff. they should totally ransack that place, right?

They totally should. I bet there's other cool stuff in there - or maybe at least some more holy oil. They've gotta be running low on that stuff.

have to admit I don't really get your stance here….usually great writing is supposed to show not tell, and for me, they fully showed how messed up Sam was.

Sorry, used the wrong verb there - I meant "show", and in my personal opinion they didn't. It's cool that you think they did though! Maybe I'll feel better about it on rewatch, but right now I don't think they did a good enough job explaining how any of it was IC. They did a much better job of that in S4 when Sam went off the rails the other way. Basically, I think they really needed the equivalent of a I Know What You Did Last Summer episode this season for us to really understand Sam, and they didn't give us one... I mean, yeah, they had the flashbacks, but there was nothing in those flashbacks that satisfied me when it came to that storyline. But, hey, that's just me.

which seems to have healed something in him, the possibility that it still could be something he could have.

True... and that's been an interesting part of it. Because from S2-S5 it was Dean who was craving the homelife and Sam was all in on whatever plot was afoot... and then S6-S7 I think they were both just praying for things to be over one way or the other... but now Sam has a little hope that maybe there's a way out for him, and he's returned to that original childhood dream of his (and Dean's returned to his childhood love of the hunt) and I think, despite their actual childhoods, that's actually the healthiest place emotionally for them both to be.

Re the minor quibble, I'm pretty sure that Kevin is the prophet for his specific tablet -- other tablets would have their own prophets -- and now Cas is the prophet for that one, which is kind of dead cool. :D

Sadly, although I LOVE this explanation, it doesn't hold water - because Cas has already informed us that only one prophet is alive at a time.
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ammluvGK
Mar. 21st, 2013 12:40 pm (UTC)
I'm thinking that some of the artefacts that are in the Men of Letters batcave could be used as weapons. Little concerned about the idea that one of those artefacts is the Spear of Destiny. Also how they set up the opening of the empty Fabergé egg and then Sam coughing up blood is a little disconcerting.

I loved the Megstiel bits, especially the referencing to 'the pizza man'. It made me smile and squeal a little bit, but of course this being Supernatural the writers couldn't even allow the happiness to last until the end of the episode. I'd just like to correct you that it was actually Dean who used the term Megstiel.

I'm with you on the Amelia arc. There's just something, I don't know, lacking in it?

In regards to the term 'unicorn' meaning something else, I know in fanfiction terms it is sometimes used to refer to the elusive female orgasm.

Definitely loving the idea of Dean's 'superpower' but I also think it shows how great a guy he is that he can bring his family back to awareness in times of such turmoil. It also shows how much love they hold for one another.

I have a theory on the glowing of Castiel when he picked up the tablet. With Anna she glowed when her grace was returned to her. Maybe through touching the tablet Castiel's grace has been fully restored and he's been given an extra whammy of angel juice. Could be that Cas is now a stronger angel than before, possibly having moved up in the ranks. The discussion between Naomi and the other angel in the boardroom I'm guessing has something to do with Castiel no longer being on their radar and can no longer be found...he's in a similar witness protection scheme as Gabriel was.

In regards to the Kevin thing, it was the Leviathan tablet that Kevin was compelled to track down. The demon tablet was one Crowley had and gave to Kevin to interpret. I think the Winchesters are more keen on keeping Kevin safe from supernatural harm right now than having him go all sniffer dog and root around for the rest of the tablet. The breaking open of the angel tablet though should have some kind of effect on Kevin.
hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 07:25 pm (UTC)
I'd just like to correct you that it was actually Dean who used the term Megstiel.

Really?! Geez... well, that's how you can tell that I only watch the episode once while drinking a bunch of wine before I type up these posts. ;)

I'm with you on the Amelia arc. There's just something, I don't know, lacking in it?

Exactly. I keep hoping they'll give us some tidbit of information that will make things slide into place and feel whole - but they haven't yet, and unless they do, I'm thinking that storyline will always feel poorly plotted/executed.

In regards to the term 'unicorn' meaning something else, I know in fanfiction terms it is sometimes used to refer to the elusive female orgasm.

Haha, you know, in my experience female orgasms aren't that hard to find. But, um, if you want to know the term I was referring to, then type it into urban dictionary. It's the first definition.

Definitely loving the idea of Dean's 'superpower' but I also think it shows how great a guy he is that he can bring his family back to awareness in times of such turmoil. It also shows how much love they hold for one another.

:) That's what I meant. I don't actually think it's a supernatural power - it's more just the fact that Dean wields "the power of love" very well. Calling it a superpower is just me being cheeky.

I have a theory on the glowing of Castiel when he picked up the tablet. With Anna she glowed when her grace was returned to her. Maybe through touching the tablet Castiel's grace has been fully restored and he's been given an extra whammy of angel juice. Could be that Cas is now a stronger angel than before, possibly having moved up in the ranks. The discussion between Naomi and the other angel in the boardroom I'm guessing has something to do with Castiel no longer being on their radar and can no longer be found...he's in a similar witness protection scheme as Gabriel was.

Ooooo... interesting. I like this theory.

In regards to the Kevin thing, it was the Leviathan tablet that Kevin was compelled to track down.

Crap, you're right. Again, another way to tell that I type these things up at midnight after drinking a bunch of wine. :P

Another commenter above made me also realize that the last time we saw Kevin, he was given a bottle of painkillers and a bottle of uppers and told not to OD... and the Winchesters haven't heard from him in weeks... and yeah... I'm thinking he might have messed up his noggin.

katsheswims
Mar. 21st, 2013 01:22 pm (UTC)
"I have to admit though that when Meg asked him why he stopped when he hit the dog, I was REALLY hoping that she was going to point out some shady clue that maybe he was acting against his will or something supernatural was going on with his life..."---I had the same hope here! But it was dashed...I don't think I'll give up on it until the season is over though...
hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 07:25 pm (UTC)
Same here, my friend.
quickreaver
Mar. 21st, 2013 01:38 pm (UTC)
Got nothing to add except PREACH, SISTER.
hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 07:26 pm (UTC)
Haha, thanks! :)
4422shini
Mar. 21st, 2013 05:04 pm (UTC)
$5 Friday moment was during that beat down scene! "Hey, want to put in for five doll- AAAYHHHE!!"

Also, my car was parked the impala when Sam and Dean raced to the hotel. Got paid an additional $25, but it didn't make the final cut :( (probably because my car is also black, and not nearly as pretty as theirs).

Sad that they killed off Meg, she was my favourite villain. But good episode on the whole!
hells_half_acre
Mar. 21st, 2013 07:28 pm (UTC)
I figured it might be! Man, that make-up was good... I don't blame you for being startled by it at all. :P

Cool about your car! Too bad it was cut. :(

I'm also sad about Meg, but yeah, the quality of the episode helps make up for the loss of such a long-running character.
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borgmama1of5
Mar. 22nd, 2013 03:33 am (UTC)
It was the kind of episode with so much in it that I was kind of reeling--in a good way--at the end.

My first coherent thought after I could resume thinking was that love of Dean has now enabled 4 people--John, Bobby, Sam, and Cas--to fight off possession/mind control. I like your christening of Dean's ability as his superpower, because it is.

Makes me wonder if, when the series eventually ends, we will find out there was a special reason he has this superpower?

One thing I wonder about though--Crowley was originally a tailor in Scotland in the 1600s--so how could he have know Naomi in Mesopotamia? Writer error...or is Crowley something more now?
hells_half_acre
Mar. 22nd, 2013 03:47 am (UTC)
I'm not sure if we'll ever get an explanation for why Dean has this ability...maybe there's nothing Supernatural about it, and it's really just a matter of being lucky that people love him so much.

Mesopotamia still exists, so it might not be writer error. It refers to a geographic region and not a country, so they could have both been in Mesopotamia during the Gulf War or something....but beyond that, it's possibly writer error.
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cookiemom6067
Mar. 23rd, 2013 06:56 pm (UTC)
What does " irgendwo " mean?

There is a "demon is dead" sign that is sort of like the burned angel wings - the flashing "I can see your skeleton" light - which did happen when Crowley stabbed Meg.

There were a few things that bothered me about this episode

First, and I know it's not exclusive to this episode, but suddenly everyone has an angel sword. That's a far cry from "only angels have angel swords" in the 4th season. Now demons use them to kill other demons?

Second, I was surprised that "burned out eyes" from Sam's research at the beginning didn't immediately spell A-N-G-E-L to Sam and Dean. Really?

Third, why did she stab Crowley in the shoulder?

I really liked the "Voluptuous Asian Lovlies" callback to "Busty Asian Beauties"

I think that there are lots of ways that show the boy's relationship is a healthier one.

Yes, I got "unicorn" - I read Dan Savage.
hells_half_acre
Mar. 23rd, 2013 07:06 pm (UTC)
What does " irgendwo " mean?

"somewhere" (in German... sorry about that. It's one of my favourite German words.)

There is a "demon is dead" sign that is sort of like the burned angel wings - the flashing "I can see your skeleton" light - which did happen when Crowley stabbed Meg.

Sigh, it's true... I was just in denial.

First, and I know it's not exclusive to this episode, but suddenly everyone has an angel sword. That's a far cry from "only angels have angel swords" in the 4th season. Now demons use them to kill other demons?

Oh man, this bugs me too! I mean, they SORT of explained it in S7, when Meg told us that after the apocalypse (and Castiel's reign of terror in Heaven) a lot of angels fell and their swords were confiscated... but yeah, it DOES kind of irk me that now everyone and their mother has a demon/angel-killing sword.

Second, I was surprised that "burned out eyes" from Sam's research at the beginning didn't immediately spell A-N-G-E-L to Sam and Dean. Really?

It's true. That was like the first thing Castiel EVER did. The liquefied organs were new though.

Third, why did she stab Crowley in the shoulder?

I thought she was going for the heart but he deflected it. I'll have to watch again.

I really liked the "Voluptuous Asian Lovlies" callback to "Busty Asian Beauties"

Heehee, yup.

Yes, I got "unicorn" - I read Dan Savage.

:) I listen to his podcast sometimes.
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