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In which Doctor Who upsets me...


Guys....I love Rory, and he's GOING TO DIE. Did you SEE River's reaction to seeing him in the latest episode?!? Oh god - he's going to die horribly and permanently and I will be sad forever.

Also, Rory and Amy aren't even going to raise their kid, I bet.

ETA: Though (an hour later or so, while I wait for my food to cook) it just occurred to me that maybe River's reaction comes from the fact that she hasn't seen Rory in a VERY LONG TIME. Now - this could be because he is dead of natural causes and she is imprisoned in the future...but, well, I guess that would be SOMETHING. That could be my hope that I won't ever have to SEE him die. 

Also, I was all jazzed, because my current favourite threesome triad (Amy, Rory, and The Doctor) had managed to make a threesome-baby, by having Amy and Rory get it on in the Tardis so that the baby was a portion time-vortex or something...and then they have to go and spoil it all by having the baby be the Doctor's future lover, so now I DEFINITELY can't think of him like her father, even though I want to...and I keep getting squicked out. Mind you, it makes sense, after The Doctor's Wife, we know that the Doctor has a thing for the time-vortex. 

And to top it off, we already know that River dies - now, of course everyone dies eventually, but Geez....now I'm all depressed about it...also, I guess that means that she can't regenerate, because didn't she end up like, permanently in fantasy world in the Library or something? I guess it's kind of like the SPN version of heaven, but geez...

I mean, the good part of the episode was that Rory wore that updated version of a Centurion outfit, and it DID THINGS TO ME. Oh god. It was almost as if I were a healthy adult female of the heterosexual persuasion....but WHY CAN'T HE LIVE FOREVER?! That cold open was DELICIOUS.  
 
I also liked the way they used language - how words only have the meaning that we ascribe to them, and those meanings can be changed in ways we may not foresee. I'm a not-so-secret linguistics nerd, and my goodness, to have language-evolution as a character-plot point DID THINGS TO ME.
 
But seriously! STOP RUINING THREESOMES WITH SKEEZY TIME-TRAVEL! AND STOP KILLING PEOPLE! Remember when Companions used to just be dropped off in Aberdeen or some such and the only sad bit was that the doctor had to say goodbye? Or, if that's too easy - the old accidentally-trapped-in-a-parallel-world was a hit before! Do that again!  JUST DON'T KILL THE SWEET HOT NURSE/CENTURION! HE IS MY ONE TRUE LOVE.
 
(*cough*besidesmyothertrueloves*cough*) 

 

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cordelia_gray
Jun. 6th, 2011 04:26 am (UTC)
Rory! ♥

I firmly believe that once the Doctor understands the whole truth about River, he will go back get her out of the Library somehow. Right? Right. HE HAS TO.

Loved the Doctor putting together his army, and way everything unfolded - very cool.

The few moments we got of Madame Vastra the Silurian Detective and her assistant were surprisingly awesome too - I want a spinoff about them :)

But I have to say I agree there is something a little bit skeevy about Moffat's tendency to write things where young girls "imprint" on the Doctor and then end up as companions/girlfriends/whatever later on. Not just Amy Pond and River Song, but also Madame du Pompadour. I'm not sure if I like it.

Although technically the threesome was Amy/Rory/TARDIS, which make it a little better :)
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 04:37 am (UTC)
But I have to say I agree there is something a little bit skeevy about Moffat's tendency to write things where young girls "imprint" on the Doctor and then end up as companions/girlfriends/whatever later on.

True. It is kind of a bit not good. I mean, it's true that except for River, the Doctor doesn't have sexual relationships with the girls...but, they seem to have a sexual-component to their attraction to HIM, which still makes it skeevy.

I guess the great tragedy for the Doctor is that everyone dies or eventually leaves him (except the Tardis)...so, even if he DID get River out of the Library somehow, it'd still only be a matter of time...and even if Rory does survive his traveling with the Doctor, he has to die SOMETIME.

Although technically the threesome was Amy/Rory/TARDIS, which make it a little better :)

True! And the Tardis did call Rory "the pretty one" in The Doctor's Wife! Haha, so, yeah, it does make it a little better.

I just want a show with a viable threesome in it, goddamn it! Enough with all this bromance - where's the triad-love?

The few moments we got of Madame Vastra the Silurian Detective and her assistant were surprisingly awesome too - I want a spinoff about them :)

Oh man! I LOVED LOVED LOVED her!! I was so glad that she and her assistant survived! They are like the kick-ass alien-fem-version of Holmes and Watson...picked up from Victorian times and everything. Brilliant.
liliaeth
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:23 am (UTC)
I keep mixing people up, have you watched White Collar yet?

The potential for Peter/Elizabeth/Neal is enormous.
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:33 am (UTC)
I have not seen White Collar...but you have now intrigued me!
liliaeth
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:40 am (UTC)
Let me just say there's a reason why fandom wise, White Collar is a fave of mine, because of how rare it is to find even Neal/Peter shippers, who hate on Peter's wife, because she is just that awesome.

Even the people who don't ship them as a threesome, generally keep her in the fic and married to Peter because the relationship between her and Peter is that much fun. Add to that that Neal likes her loads and we get to see her joking about her husband's 'near obsessive' knowledge about Neal (from you know hunting him down to arrest him)

The N/E/P threesome is one of the main pairings in the fandom for a reason*g*
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:49 am (UTC)
Hmmm...yes, you definitely have me intrigued. How many seasons are we talking here? I'm horribly slow at watching shows (by most fan-standards).
liliaeth
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:54 am (UTC)
Two so far, and the third season is about to start this week (tomorow I think)

hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:57 am (UTC)
Oh, cool. That's not so bad then! Maybe I will give it a look :)
claudiapriscus
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:33 am (UTC)
The library ending (I saw someone refer to it as "the tampax commercial") was depressing the first time around. Now it's even WORSE. Though maybe future!doctor pops in right after 10 pops out and saves her! yes. That is what happened.

Also, Rory is to awesome to die (permanently). Considering the episode-appearance to deaths/apparent deaths ratio, Daniel Jackson's got nothing on him.

And yes, I WOULD LIKE HIM TO REPEAT THE QUESTION. Unf. That's the only word for it. I died of the epic. There's a reason Amy married him, you know?

Also, on the meaning of "Doctor"...you must read this: https://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.drwho/browse_thread/thread/7cd734f99a62ae98/c845f05e9b213df9?lnk=st&q&hl=en&pli=1#c845f05e9b213df9

Then check the date.

Then read this:

https://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.drwho/msg/f4860ccc178ed0fe?hl=en


I laughed aloud, then grinned.

hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:43 am (UTC)
THOSE ARE THE AWESOMEST LINKS EVER! Thanks so much for pointing me to them! Brilliant.

Makes me also think of the Sontaran correcting Rory that he was a Nurse not a Warrior.

Unf is the correct word! After the episode was over, I went back to the beginning and had him repeat the question a good many times... ;)

And yes, a Future Doctor figures out how to get River out of the Tampax Commercial - this is now my head-canon, and I refuse to believe otherwise! Also, no matter what happens to Rory - he now lives forever!...in my heart.

Seriously, I'm wicked jealous of Amy.
claudiapriscus
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:25 am (UTC)
No wonder she had him playing 'dress up' on their honey moon. Bwhaha.

It's my head canon too. The suggestion I was seeing that the Doctor uses the flesh to give her a new body.


Aren't they the BEST? I like to envision him laughing maniacally. That's one way to win a fandom argument: become the showrunner. (Stephen Moffat: "Hah! The doctor was just kissed AGAIN! suck on that. Also, here is his probable wife! and now the tardis is a woman, and she's kissing him too. Mwhahaha.). And considering the name thing, I guess it's also a way to ensure your head canon becomes the real canon.

(we should totally become show runners. Then we could have rory being a badass centurion guy ALL THE TIME. The doctor would bumble and be awesome, and then rory would be all "WHERE IS MY WIFE" and awesome and River would show up and kick ass and Amy would be quick and clever and tease them all about it and also generally be awesome. )

Someone linked 'em on the TWoP forum. If for no other reason, those links made wading through usual fan stuff worth it.
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:32 am (UTC)
If I had Rory, I believe there would be a lot of 'dress-up' involved!

Man, the Flesh is convenient! That's a great solution!

And yes, the way to win an argument is to become a Showrunner for sure! This will be my new goal in life. We would make totally awesome showrunners! Everything would be Centurion!Rory and nothing would hurt.

See, I stay away from the TWoP forums, because of all the *horrors* there...sadly, it also means I miss out on little gems like those links.

claudiapriscus
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:42 am (UTC)
They are pretty horrific. Though the Doctor Who forums are a much, much, much happier place than the SPN forums.


But oh, think of the fun we could have, being ascended fangirls. I'm sure becoming a showrunner is a totally easy thing.
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:46 am (UTC)
Though the Doctor Who forums are a much, much, much happier place than the SPN forums.

Probably most every other fandom is! ...I think I'll still stay away though.

But oh, think of the fun we could have, being ascended fangirls. I'm sure becoming a showrunner is a totally easy thing.

Oh yeah, totally easy. I mean, my old fall-back career was to get my PhD and become a university professor. I bet it's just as easy as that at the very least. :P
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:34 am (UTC)
claudiapriscus
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:47 am (UTC)
love, love, love that man.
liliaeth
Jun. 6th, 2011 08:54 am (UTC)
mind if I share those links on Markwatches this evening?
claudiapriscus
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:17 pm (UTC)
No, not at all. I don't know who credit for them goes to, though. Someone did some serious digging.
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:22 pm (UTC)
Ooo, I like Mark Watches too! :)

(I'm just a lurker though)
yourkidney
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:08 pm (UTC)
It's doing such strange things to me! I mean, the Doctor definitely feels paternal affection for Amy besides their whole BFF thing, but then he's like her son-in-law now which is WEIRD. Also, I choose to keep my threesome goggles on for s5 and before they know. As long as THEY aren't "aware" then I don't care what I imagine them getting up to. It's not the weirdest thing I've shipped haha.
hells_half_acre
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's truly bizarre.

It sucks too, because the finale was so rife with great slashy innuendo...and then they go and make River Rory and Amy's kid, and yeah...it's like parents fooling around with their son-in-law. :P

I will be very happy when Sherlock comes back on this fall and the relationships will not have a confusing time-travel/immortal component to them.
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