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Quick Reaction: 6x08 All Dogs Go To Heaven

Hello! So, a nice evening out at my friend's place cheered me up...and Supernatural certainly didn't hurt. So let's talk about it!

How did we start things? Oh yeah, guy talking baby-talk about his dog...gets eaten by a dog. How nice. Oh, before that though, we had a Then that went all the way back to the Season 2. Werewolves really are rare in the Supernatural universe...we've had way more Vampires than Werewolves and Dean and Sam both thought Vampires were extinct in S1. It seems the world has just got worse since out show started.

Anyway, on with the show. Sam and Dean are eating at a roadside diner...only Dean's on the phone to Bobby demanding that he solve all their problems again. I guess Castiel isn't answering Dean's prayers at the moment. Then Crowley shows up!

This means either Crowley can track Sam because he's holding his soul hostage, or the boys have stopped carrying hex bags with them. Either way, Crowley can pop in whenever he chooses it seems. Crowley tells the boys about the dead guy and wants them to track down the Alpha Werewolf and then he'll give Sam his soul back...for just one alpha! Personally, after the fiasco with Bobby, I would like to see that agreement in writing.

Dean refuses, and Crowley lights Sam's hand on fire...you know, I burnt my hand when I was 9 years old, and I think I took it better than that...mind you, it didn't keep burning, so maybe that''s the difference. I like how Dean caves though, even though it's just Sam's body and not Sam...Dean still can't really stand to see Sam in pain. Also, Crowley has a point - he owns Sam, and like it or not, whoever owns Sam owns Dean. Which is why I highly doubt Crowley's going to honour the Alpha-Soul deal.

I loved Crowley's line about how soulless Sam would sell Dean out for a dollar if he really needed a soda. He's mostly right.

Ok, so, Dean agrees and they go to check it out...but Dean insists that they actually make sure the guy is a werewolf before they turn him over to be tortured by demons. The guy is a drunk and a shitty boyfriend, but he's not a werewolf.

Oh yeah, and somewhere in here Dean wakes up to find Sam already awake - remembering that Sam doesn't sleep and commenting that "that's not creepy at all"...and while I was wondering why it was that Dean just didn't turn over and talk to his brother, rather than giving him the coy over the shoulder look...my friend was noticing that on close-up shots, Dean's arm was held at an angle to his body, and on far away shots it was held outstretched....(the script supervisor must have fallen asleep).

Anyway, guy isn't a werewolf, but he does get eaten by dog...a dog who turns into a MAN! It's a MANDOG! DogMan?

The boys don't know this though, and they figure it must be the girl - so they go to interrogate her, and surprisingly actually talk to her BEFORE the cops! Geez, that's the first time that's ever happened. Sam wants to kill her, but Dean wants to make sure she's actually a werewolf, because he believes her and her kid when they say that she was home the whole night. Sam insists that he can stay and watch the house without killing anyone, and Dean isn't so sure...Sam says "Trust me!" and no one does.

Still, it's a measure of something that Dean actually does let him stay there and watch the house. He sees the dog change into a man...and chases him through the woods, and then the dog gets hit by a car. Awww....poor creepy puppy.

Turns out it's a Skinwalker! I have to say, I'm pretty excited that we're finally seeing a Skinwalker - they were mentioned way back in Wendigo...but this is the first time we're actually seeing what they're like. It's so long since Dean's come across one, that he goes to consult John's journal (something they've surpassed a while ago). Sam already got the low-down from Bobby though. Much like a werewolf, they're infected by a bite and killed by silver, but they can change at any point into a dogs.

So, they go to the pound and get him, tie him up in a chair, and then interrogate him. Sam is also a bit of an ass, but Dean actually sympathizes with the dude...and yeah, I mean, the comparison is pretty on the nose if you think about it: Supernatural-freak taken in by blackhaired woman and her darling kid, shows the guy more kindness than he's known his whole rotten life...sound familiar? He was only trying to protect them and it all blew up in his face.

He tells them that he's basically a sleeper cell, and man...but this plan is kind of brilliant. Lay low and then create a spontaneous massive army when the time is write. Why the heck are these creatures gearing up for war? That's really what I would like to know. It's not to go after Hunters, they don't seem to care about Hunters - are they all going to go after each other? Heaven and/or Hell? Is it connected to the Heavenly Civil War?

Anyway, Dean and Sam get into sniper position, and Sam starts telling Dean how if it were him he'd double-cross them. Sam, this is not reassuring...geez, and people tell me *I'm* too bluntly honest.

Sadly, the guy is blocked by other people the whole time he's outside the car, and Dean is unwilling to kill the extras. Sam is willing to kill everyone...and I mean, given that plan B is to kill everyone anyway, maybe Dean should have taken that shot? Maybe not.

Anyway, Plan B...and once again, we have Dean saying "There's a Plan B?" - seriously Dean, why do you only ever make one plan? That's not very good planning.

Sam marches right in and starts killing all the Skinwalkers. Lucky protects the family, but at the cost of revealing his true nature....Dean is a BAMF and snipers a bunch of people and then PULLS A HANDGUN WHILE HOLDING A SNIPER RIFLE and dude, the only thing sexier than a sniper rifle is a guy with MORE THAN ONE WEAPON. Haha....

So, everyone is dead, and they don't have an alpha. That was fun but sadly pointless.

More than that, true to the mirror that it is, the black-haired woman rejects the Supernatural-freak, since he put them in danger and is a creepy dog and a freak...so he trots off sadly...*hums* maybe tomorrow, he'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, he'll just keep moving on...*hums*

Meanwhile, Sam and Dean are sitting around in a park. Sam decides to come clean - it's true, he's not really Sam. He's killed innocent people. He doesn't care about Lisa and Ben, and he doesn't even care about Dean. He needs Dean though, so he's been faking it, but obviously that's not working, so he'll just be honest now. Honest to the point that I kind of miss dishonest Sam, because then at least I could pretend he still loved Dean on some level.

Sam remembers his life before and remembers it being pretty horrible, and he doesn't know why he would want that really...but then there are some things...and it really makes me wonder what memories are like when they aren't laced with emotion. Sam can still find things funny, but he can't love or care about people or empathize...he can't feel true happiness or true misery...so what about certain memories make him think that maybe he's missing something?

So Dean says that yeah, he'll play ball for now...try to get Sam's soul back...because he wants his brother.

I've been excusing Dean's behaviour the past few episodes, because yes, he's been an ass - but he was just stripped of absolutely everything. He didn't have Sam, but he had Lisa and Ben, then he thought he had Sam back, but he didn't really...and thinking that he had Sam back made him lose Lisa and Ben. So now he doesn't have Sam OR Lisa and Ben...so yeah, I'd be a little pissy too.

I really do hope they get Sam's soul back soon though...I mean, maybe even in dribs and drabs? I really hope we don't have to wait until the Season Finale. As hot as BAMF killing machine Robo!Sam is, I miss the real Sam.

Now, on a completely different note: You know how we've never seen Crowley's eyes? Wouldn't it be cool if they were yellow?!?! Think about it...all the other demons are colour-coded by rank. You've got black-eyes, that can be killed by the knife....red eyes that are the crossroad demons...white eyes that can't be killed by the knife...and then you had Azazel the only yellow-eyed demon. Wouldn't it be neat if the reason Azazel had yellow eyes was because he was King of Hell? I think it'd be neat if that were the case, anyway. No matter what though, I'm interested to see what colour Crowley's eyes are when they do suddenly decide to reveal it.

So, there you have it...I guess I didn't say much this time around!  


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Nov. 13th, 2010 10:44 am (UTC)
and while I was wondering why it was that Dean just didn't turn over and talk to his brother, rather than giving him the coy over the shoulder look.

random minutiae: but if you go WAAAAAAAAAY back to when Dean actually slept, this is usually how Dean woke up and talked to Sam if Sam was on the other side of him. Ex. 1: Phantom Traveler. Also the fact that he's sleeping face down is encouraging because it's how he slept pre-hell and pre-trust issues with Sam. So he's either subconsciously accepting the situation or he's just really that exhausted. Either way I guess he's getting some sleep.

Yeah, I pick the most bizarre things to talk about. Also, on the eye color front. I wonder how the rank of the white eyes is to the yellow eyes. Since they were both only ever worn by two demons on the show.

Edited at 2010-11-13 10:44 am (UTC)
Nov. 13th, 2010 04:34 pm (UTC)
Actually, there's been three white eyes (Samhain, Lilith and Alastair - though I've heard arguing on him that really it was just his eyes rolling back..) and 1 yellow eyes (Azazel). I really wish we could get the writers to clarify that part of the color hierarchy thing!

I was thinking the same thing with the way Dean was sleeping.
Nov. 14th, 2010 04:58 am (UTC)
Thank you! I was having a brain fart last night and trying to look it up to no avail. I knew I thought there was more than one but for some reason all I could remember was Lilith. Yes, plz writers! Give us a chart. :D
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
Also the fact that he's sleeping face down is encouraging because it's how he slept pre-hell

Oh yeah...he also slept face down in Dark Side of the Moon. He was still in his clothes here though - Dean's slept in his clothes since he got back from hell (except once in S4, but they cut that scene out).

Since they were both only ever worn by two demons on the show.

What do you mean? Because the white eyes were Lilith, Samhain, and Alastair...and Yellow-eyes were only ever Azazel. Hence why I figure if eye denote rank, yellow-eyes must be a rare upper rank (given that yellow-eyes seemed to be able to do carryout a plan with seemingly all of hell backing him up.)

ETA: Ooops, responded before I saw that there was already a response! :P

Edited at 2010-11-13 09:08 pm (UTC)
Nov. 14th, 2010 05:02 am (UTC)
I'm just clinging to the fact that he's sleeping face down which is his "I'm actually sleeping" position. Unfortunately the clothes are usually a necessary evil seeing as they keep having to take off at a moments notice and don't really have any down time. And I figure the pjs at Lisa's house were to make Ben more comfortable.

Don't worry, I could use it twice so I'll remember. lol I like your reasoning for the yellow eyes being a higher rank than the white. I'm gonna keep that one. :D
Nov. 13th, 2010 12:33 pm (UTC)
Honest to the point that I kind of miss dishonest Sam, because then at least I could pretend he still loved Dean on some level.

Not at all related but; you had to pretend?

Cos I mean, they were really very fucked up, but I still think they loved each other, even under all that. Like, that's one of the themes (or something). They love each other so much it's dangerous, but it also saves them. I just... yeah.

I quite like this episode though.
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:09 pm (UTC)
I mean in S6. Sam obviously loved Dean in the other seasons, but now he's incapable of love....so, intellectually he knows that Dean's important to him, but that's not the same as feeling.
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:49 pm (UTC)
OH sorry! The way you phrased it meant I thought you meant you had to pretend that he loved Dean back when he had his soul. Sorry, major fail on my part there.

Haha just randomly, I loved in this episode when Crowley said "ten quid says you will". Also, Sam saying "soul or not, that's funny". :D Anyway, I'll stop now. :P
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:53 pm (UTC)
Haha, I liked those bits too.

And no worries about the miscommunication! Happens to the best of us, and obviously my sentence wasn't that clear. :P
Nov. 13th, 2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
You were positive. I spent a lot of the episode being mesmerised by Sam's hair for some reason. I liked the to and fro.

On some odd level, Sam has become a little like the trying to be human Castiel. He's weirdly naive about a lot of things. The "trying to understand what it means to be human" trope?
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:13 pm (UTC)
It is quite easy to be mesmerized by Sam's hair :P

You have a point with the similarities to Castiel. Only, this time the person is ACTUALLY emotionless. He reminds me more of Data from Star Trek than he does of Castiel (if Data were amoral).

I think though, it's not so much about trying to understand what it means to be human, as trying to understand what it means to be SAM. You could argue it's the same thing, but in my mind it's a little different.
Nov. 13th, 2010 10:20 pm (UTC)
That's why I liked the distinction about "I'm not Sam" at the end so much. Robo-Sam realises he needs to feel to be a real boy. It's very Data (or Spock, or Odo - Star Trek likes this trope). I hope they don't drag out the returning Sam's soul because I miss Sam but I'm quite enjoying how this is playing out. They've answered enough questions for me to be reinvested again.
Nov. 13th, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with you.

This season is different, because I find it somewhat painful to watch, but it's extremely captivating. (And I don't mean painful as in "it's bad", I mean painful as in "I miss Sam and I feel bad for Dean."

I really hoping they don't drag it out too long, but you never know. It might be a whole season of RoboSam.
Nov. 13th, 2010 04:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I enjoyed last night's ep. I didn't really think anything of the whole Dean not rolling over to talk to Sam thing.. it's the same sort of lazy thing I do...

I felt sorry for the skinwalker guy.. but I think he may end up being important cause I'm sure there's an alpha out there somewhere still. I don't think that pack leader was the alpha. Just didn't seem that powerful. Most of the alphas have been.

I want to know Crowley's eye color too!
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
It's not like I meant to make a big deal of the Dean not rolling over thing, after all, as someone else pointed out, it IS how he usually talks to Sam when he first wakes up. I just thought it was funny...but hey, maybe he had morning wood and was trying not to make the situation even more awkward.

Hopefully the skinwalker guy will end up being important. It is rather rare that they get a Supernatural being to help them. Mind you, RoboSam was going to kill him anyway, if he hadn't escaped - plus Sam was kind of an ass to him...so he might not be that willing to help.

You have got me thinking though of past relatively peaceful Supernatural beings...like Lenore from S2. I wonder if her and her vampire nest are answering the recruitment call of the Alpha-Vamp...
Nov. 15th, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC)
Well, it was a hopeful thinking thing with the skinwalker. I just felt sorry for him and wanted to see him be more than the lonely puppy (or Dean analogy) at the end. It's rare a Supernatural being gets to survive too..

I didn't even think of Lenore! I suppose they would've had to have heard the call of the Alpha vamp.. but could they resist it..
Nov. 13th, 2010 07:32 pm (UTC)
>>.Dean is a BAMF and snipers a bunch of people and then PULLS A HANDGUN WHILE HOLDING A SNIPER RIFLE and dude, the only thing sexier than a sniper rifle is a guy with MORE THAN ONE WEAPON. Haha....

God, yes. Sniper!Dean was ridiculously hot. And I kind of think I should feel bad about thinking it was hot, but I just can't.
Nov. 13th, 2010 09:20 pm (UTC)
My grandfather was almost killed by a sniper in the war, and I still find sniper!Dean extremely hot. :P

I think it's the skill and the focus...and the large gun. ;)
Nov. 14th, 2010 01:19 am (UTC)
LOVED that episode.
It was FINALLY about the case again, the brother-problems was just background, like it used to be in s1 to earlier s4. Later, it was all demons anyway, and sure it was great and good, but I missed this in s5 a lot.

So, I loved this episode.

And as a dog-owner myself, I tell you: that creeped me OUT!

Really. Had to look at my dog, and dammit didn't he just look at me and raise his eyebrow?

So, as I said, I liked it. And I liked RoboSam and I liked Dean trying to refuse Crowley and his flinch and instinctive reaction to Sam being hurt.

The comparison between Lucky and Dean was crystal-clear but I think Lisa's door wasn't closed quite as much. Sure, she kinda told him "Sam or us", but I think there is some leeway.
But dammit didn't I weep for Lucky :-( Even though he ripped people apart?

And one other thing: if Dean had rolled over, or even sat up... we'd have missed this awesome scene! We don't get much from Jensen in the skin-and-sweat-department, but I swear it makes it actually more delicious to watch him. Even in clothes.

I think I'm daring to go out on a limb and say that Dean on a bed? Is absolutely enough to make me wanna sigh and stare dreamily at the screen.
-Phantom Traveler
-Monster at the End of the Book (duh...BOOK-PORN!)
-the ep where Alistair slams him into a tombstone and he's all concussed (the one before OtHoaP)

And that's not even thinking about where he is actually shirtless on a bed! (or a car-seat)

Yeah. Shallow moment over. Need to sleep. Hopefully dreaming of Dean, not my dog being a guy who's watching me.
Right now - and I'm not usually - I'm glad the dog-pound neutered him before I got him as my dog :-D
Nov. 14th, 2010 01:22 am (UTC)
But dammit didn't I weep for Lucky :-( Even though he ripped people apart?

Just to make that clear: I wouldn't have taken Lucky back either! I just hope he finds a nice family. And THANK YOU for that link! I used to love that show. I never heard about that dog again and sometimes I thought I imagined it.
Thank god for YouTube :D
Nov. 14th, 2010 01:35 am (UTC)
Just to make that clear: I wouldn't have taken Lucky back either!

Haha, yeah, I felt bad for Lucky too, but it would have been like marrying your creepy stalker - not a good idea.
Nov. 14th, 2010 02:47 am (UTC)

It was my favourite show as a kid...actually, I blame it partially for my nomadic lifestyle :P
Nov. 14th, 2010 01:42 am (UTC)
I'm glad you liked the episode! I liked it too - it was nice to have a good old fashioned MOTW, especially after all the hard-hitting reveals last week.

I was watching with a Cat-lover, and she kept looking over at her cats and wondering...hahaha...it doesn't help that cats always win the prize for creepy staring.

I don't even think Lisa GAVE Dean that ultimatum of "us or Sam", it was more just a statement that as soon as she had seen Sam, she knew she had lost Dean...and that if Dean was going to be coming into her house and freaking them out and pushing her kid, than they were through. I'm sure she'd be willing to try again, Dean just needs to actually phone her instead of looking at her number forlornly.

Haha, really, was there something about the way I phrased the thing about Dean not rolling over? It really wasn't a big deal and I certainly wasn't complaining! I love the view!

Dean in bed is awesome. If you have the S4 DVDs you should check out the deleted scene from Jump the Shark, when he gets out of bed and wakes Sam up and he's only wearing a T-shirt and his black boxers...and now MY shallow moment is over ;)

Oh, except to say that you see my icon? I named it "Dean/Books OTP" because I LOVE BOOK-PORN! mmmm....

Ok, now my shallow moment is REALLY over.

Nov. 14th, 2010 03:49 am (UTC)
i was wondering the same thing about Crowley's eyes. best answer i got was red, cause he was King of the Crossroads.... but that was SO season 5....

Edited at 2010-11-14 03:49 am (UTC)
Nov. 14th, 2010 08:07 pm (UTC)
Indeed. I'm hoping they eventually show us. *fingers crossed for a cool colour*
Nov. 15th, 2010 02:21 am (UTC)
hehe oh yes!
Nov. 14th, 2010 06:30 am (UTC)
I watched this episode with a really bad head cold, and I don't know if it's the meds or what, but I was fixated with Sam's hair. It makes me want to ask Jared how he makes his hair look so PRETTY -- mine doesn't look as soft or shiny as his without using a lot of hair product. *covets*

A way for Crowley to be really, really evil is to give Sam's soul back a piece at a time for every Alpha the boys bring in. Because that way, he can condition the Winchesters to believe that his way is the most expedient one to get Sam back. Or something. I don't know -- it's just that I have this weird mental image of the Winchesters as Shaggy and Scooby Doo being given Scoobie Snacks by Crowley after getting the bad guy.

Sniper!Dean is hot. But I think Dean made them switch roles to prevent Sam from killing Lucky or Mandy, because in my head, the Winchester SOP has Sam as the sniper and Dean in the melee. I just think it fits their personalities better that way. :D
Nov. 14th, 2010 07:08 am (UTC)
True, Dean does usually try to keep Sam at a safe distance - that being said, I think Dean is the one with the bigger gun fetish.

I think Jared DOES use a lot of product in his hair, personally. I mean, you have to consider the fact that he has a hairstylist that does his hair before he goes on camera - the reason of us don't have that luxury. I also think they use a flat-iron on it, because normally it'd be all curly at the ends.

I kind of want Crowley to give Sam's soul back in dribs and drabs, kind of just because I fear that they may be waiting for the season finale to give Sam his soul, and if Crowley gave it to him in dribs and drabs, than we'd get little pieces of it back sooner than that and Sam would start resembling Sam more. If that makes any sense.

Nov. 14th, 2010 07:50 am (UTC)
Yeesh, no wonder he has such pretty hair. Now I want my own hairstylist. *covets some more*

if Crowley gave it to him in dribs and drabs, than we'd get little pieces of it back sooner than that and Sam would start resembling Sam more. If that makes any sense.

It makes a lot of sense! I like your reason better than mine, too - I think it would work better into the plot arc, for one thing. (It also has me imagining a number of Crowley's minions breaking Sam's soul into parts and bottling them up for Crowley to give back. And the bottles would have labels like, "Sam's Stance on Universal Healthcare" "Sam's Empathy with Children" "Sam's Love for Dogs", etc., etc.)
Nov. 14th, 2010 07:55 am (UTC)
Hahaha, "Sam's Stance on Universal Healthcare" is my favourite. It'd be funny if he was still endangering Dean's life and letting children get tortured, but then starting conversations with "I really think we should write our congressman, Obama's reforms just aren't good enough..."
Nov. 14th, 2010 08:09 am (UTC)
LOL - I wish it'd pan out that way too!
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