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Quick Reaction: 6x02 Two and a Half Men

 
Home again home again jiggity jig...(watched again at a friend's house - hence the late post.)

So, let's see how much of this I can remember, shall we?

Recap - it would be nice if they didn't show that the MOTW was going to be a shapeshifter. It would have kept the mystery up for just a little longer. But yeah, I get that they are still trying to make it so that newcomers can come watch the show and not be TOO confused. 

Opener - Bloody woman hiding under the bed...nicely done. That being said, if that were a real situation, that baby would totally pick up on the months mood and howl. At least in my experience, that's what babies tend to do when someone freaks out around them.

Then I can't remember what we get first - if it's Dean or Sam...but let's talk about Sam briefly:

I've mentioned this before, and I'll mention it again - I love how at ease the boys are around law enforcement in these later seasons. I love how they actually come with their sense of authority and that the law enforcement respond to that more than their fake badges.

We get another mention of how Sam doesn't seem to be understanding himself. That even Sam knows that there's something weird going on with him - or that he's changed, and he's having a bit of an identity crisis. Poor Sam. I'm fully convinced it's all some coping mechanism from hell...but them what do I know - maybe he's not really Sam and the show's publicity (and Jared) have been lying to us...

Dean in the garage...it's Sam's shot-gun that he picks up and looks at longingly, isn't it? That's adorable. If it's his...well, that just proves that he does miss the life. It's been horribly teasing just to see the trunk of the Impala and nothing else of it, I must say.

They moved again. This retroactively explains the move between 5x22 and 6x01, in my opinion. I think a couple months after he moved in, Dean went "OCD" and made Lisa and Ben move - just in case. It's either that, or they wanted a house with a bigger garage. Anyway, side note here: I've seen a lot of people write codas or reactions to last week's episode and talk about Sam being back for the WHOLE YEAR. Sam didn't fall into the hole and then pop right back out again, people! The night we saw Sam under the streetlight was NOT the same night that Dean arrived at Lisa's. When Sam told Dean how long he'd been back topside, he said "ALMOST a year" - to me, that's anywhere from 8-11.5 months. Meaning, that Sam could have been in hell for 4 months just like Dean had been - so, Sam HAS lived through hell-years. He didn't have anyone to torture in that cage, but I bet it wasn't all candycanes and lollipops.

Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, the Braedans moved. I love how they show us what Dean's thinking without having Jensen speak. (They fail at doing this a couple of times in the show - but that's mostly with Sam being a bit of a Riker with Samuel, where he states what's going on when it's obvious to EVERYONE what's going on. 

I'm digressing again, back to what's going on with Dean! I like how we see Ben looking dejected at the table, and Lisa trying to cheer him up...and I couldn't help but think that there must have been many a similar scene in Dean's youth, with Sam looking dejected and Dean trying to cheer him up, because John had moved them again. I also LOVE how Dean looks at Ben's bike like it's some sort of evil-incarnate. Hahaha, seriously...he's like "If only that kid didn't have a bike, he wouldn't want to LEAVE AND BE KILLED!"

So, we get Dean being the paranoid Hunter that he is and trying desperately to keep his family safe, by "forgetting" that they were supposed to go out for lunch. As much as I understand where Dean is coming from...I really feel for Ben. Personally, I HAVE to at least walk around the block every time I move somewhere new, or else I feel really unsettled and depressed.

Samuel learns how to use a computer and him and Sam have the SAY OBVIOUS THINGS conversation - and then Sam goes to the house to discover BABY! Only - why didn't Sam chase after the Shifter after he cut it and it ran? If it was too fast for him to catch up to, they should have SHOWN that. Filming wise, they've been using a lot of tight-shots on seemingly hand-held cams for these sorts of scenes, and I'm not sure whether I'm liking it. It certainly adds to the sense of unease, but it's also slightly annoying. 

I forget exactly where the garage scene with Ben comes in, but I'll talk about it now. First off, who the heck wouldn't flip out if their kid got into their gun storage unit?! Dean isn't exactly special in this case. Last week I said I wanted more Dean-Ben interaction, and I guess I got it...I was just sort of hoping it would be more LOVING rather than, you know, Ben getting into Dean's stuff and Dean flipping out. Still, there are some important bits in this scene - like the fact that Ben is obviously picking up on Dean's tension and wants to help protect them. Also, Dean's statement that Ben is "never going to hold a gun". I thought that was really important, because it's obvious that Dean never wants Ben to go through any aspect of what Dean went though...even in a healthier way. Dean wants Ben to be a complete civilian. 

Also, it's extremely important because when Dean yells, Ben is actually terrified...and you can see it. I don't think it's because Ben has REASON to be terrified, but rather, it's because the Winchesters - whether they want to be or not - are VERY INTIMIDATING WHEN ANGRY. It's not something they can turn off. Also, it's important because you can see how much knowing that he scared Ben completely rips Dean apart.

Lisa questions him on it, and Dean says that Ben got into his "tools" - and I like the fact that he covers for Ben there. 

Then we get the phone call to Dean, where Dean insists that he's "Out" while salting his windows. Poor Dean. I feel so bad for the guy.

But Sam says the magic word, which I imagine is something like "dude, there's a BABY and PLEASE SAVE YOUR GIGANTIC BROTHER FROM THE LITTLE BITTY BABY!" So Dean goes running...well, chugging along in his truck...to have a look.

Now, why he had to go meet Sam and have a look when he was going to have to go home and pack a bag again is beyond me, but that's what they did. 

I like Lisa being confident and competent with the gun. Also, the little kiss before Dean leaves. It's so strange to see Dean performing such a domestic gesture like that.

So, then they meet up, and Dean says that they have to "get supplies" and Sam says that he has an arsenal in the trunk...and Dean's like, "yeah...not the supplies I meant."

Ok, so at first I was a little disappointed that they explained away Dean's capability with babies by mentioning a niece of Lisa's or something...because I know I, and much of the rest of the fandom, were looking for confirmation that Dean is good with babies because he looked after Sam as a baby. But, then I realized that I was being ridiculous for many reasons:
1) that's FANON - there's no evidence that John was THAT horrible of a father. 
2)Dean was 5 or 6 when Sam was a baby-baby. Speaking of someone who was 6 and 7 when their sibling was a baby-baby and who has a a VERY GOOD MEMORY...I have VERY little recollection from that time. Now, we know Dean has an awesome memory, because he remembers a fight his mum and Dad had when he was 4...but even with a strong memory, you aren't going to remember the ins and outs of caring for a baby from when you were 5/6. So, it's unrealistic to have that be the reason that Dean knows.
3)We know the boys had babysitters when they were young. Dean talked about one in S5, and we also MET one in S5.

Anyway...I liked the two of them freaking out when it started crying. That was funny...also, BOBBY-JOHN! Best name for Sam and Dean's baby EVER. Hahahaha.

Wait, let's get serious for a minute here. I think it's a really cool way to show the current dynamic between the brothers - because Dean is the one that says "Bobby" and Sam is the one that says "John". So, what we can take from that is the fact that Sam is identifying more with John at the moment - which, you know, wouldn't be the first time. And that Dean has switched allegiance over to their other *cough*better*cough* father-figure...the settled, calm, and more paternal father-figure.

I think this is the first time they've ever fought a monster in a public setting! COOL! I mean, not cool, because it totally looks like Dean tackled and then tried to stab an old lady...but, yeah...SUPER COOL. 

Dean's lullaby is awesome. 

Also, magic-fingers YAY!

Apparently this baby shifter just has to SEE someone and they can switch into them. That's cool...I always thought they had to knock them out or touch them or something...but I guess I was just making that up.

So, they don't know what to do, and Sam suggests going to see Samuel, and Dean's like "no!" and Sam's like "you got any better ideas?" and Dean's like "No...fine." and I'm like. "Dudes?! BOBBY?!??!" But no...apparently they'll name their kid after him, but they won't think of him as a potential babysitter....weirdos.

We get to see the Campbell Compound. Dean doesn't trust anyone further than he can throw them...and I don't either. He's also right not to, as we find out later, the Campbells have already been infiltrated. (Unrelated sidenote: Two of the characters in my novel are named Campbell, so this is so weird for me to write. I was thinking of renaming them anyway...maybe I will.)

Mark - the only Campbell we could like (simply because he didn't speak, so we could assume he was a good person) is killed. It's a sad world.

I was so thrilled when Sam showed up to fight Sam...SAM ON SAM VIOLENCE! Oh man...but, yeah, sadly, I guess it'd be really hard for them to do a FULL fight scene, so they didn't. Then we get DEAN ON DEAN VIOLENCE! Again, short...and we get Dean being choked for the second time this season. Meaning Dean-choking is currently 2 for 2...putting Dean very much in the old Sammy-role. I wonder if monsters are going to start going after Sam's heart?

People recover, and Dean takes off to go home...and questions Sam about whether he knew the whole time that they were dealing with the Alpha....whether Sam was using the Shifter kid as bait....and Sam says no, and scoffs, but Dean isn't convinced. And here, my friend's husband brought up the fact that Dean's used kids/people as bait before....and I thought that maybe Dean was just upset about not being let in on the plan...but my friend's husband thinks they're trying to show that Dean's become more of a fatherly protector type, and actually doesn't think using kids as bait is cool anymore.

We get a teasing scene of Samuel ANSWERING to someone...DUN DUN DUN. I really don't trust that guy. 

Dean goes home and he and Lisa chat about how conflicted he is...these two halves of him basically in constant battle, and his constant fear that he's becoming his father. Lisa mentions that he terrifies her too sometimes, and Dean's just crushed by that. Also, really important here is that Dean mentioned that John used to terrify HIM as a kid. That's...really really sad. 

I really like Lisa though, because she knows that this is a decision she has to make FOR Dean. I think she realizes that Dean will stay with her because he wants to protect her and it'll make him miserable, because he HAS been miserable already...he's probably been slightly miserable since he got there, but never acted like he had a choice, so she let it go. But now that he has a choice...if he leaves, she knows that he'll feel horribly guilty for leaving them. Whereas, if it's HER decision that he goes, on the grounds that he comes to visit (in one peace) then he can hopefully get the best of both worlds...the hunting life with his brother, and a normal family untainted by hunting.

I also love the fact that she says that he's been talking about himself as though "what you are is a bad thing" but it's not. Man, Lisa's really awesome. Dean is a VERY LUCKY MAN. I really hope she doesn't die in a fire.

And then...THEN....IMPALA!!!! \o/

And man, the SONG, the CAR PORN...the SMILE! 

Awesomest episode ending EVER!


A couple random things:
1. Shifters are always rapists in this show....except for the bank episode, I guess.
2. Did anyone else think that the sound was a little weird on the episode?
3. Man, I forget what else I wanted to talk about...let me know if I missed anything crucial!
4. ETA: I remembered! I wanted to talk about how Christian totally gave Dean a hard time about torturing, and that is NOT COOL. Grrr!

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claudiapriscus
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:47 am (UTC)
Also, the monster movie shifter. He was a...kidnapper and murderer. (You know, even though he was a murdering monster, you've got to give him credit for style.)

Though didn't that one imply that he was born to a normal family who then rejected him because he was a monster?


And yes! The little smile at the end was epic! I grinned through that whole part, despite the fact that it was cheesy as hell.


One other thought about this episode: It half felt a little like bribes were being thrown to the die-hard fans, what with Dean getting all paternal around a baby, and the boys naming it after bobby/john (oh man, that's SUCH a fan fic thing.) And fighting the old lady in public and leaving a trail of bodies behind and the whole daddy-angst thing... As well as, to a certain extent, the ending. I'm fine with it. I like Lisa. Though I do have to agree somewhat with the avclub reviewer that it was a little too easy. And it just feels a little fic-y, because I swear I've read it before.

And on the topic of child endangerment, I think the difference here was that it was a baby. I think the other children were a bit older and could have things explained to them. And given that they had to deal with that stuff when they were kids, maybe the boys tended to have a little bit more faith in what the kids could do, if prepared. Not that they had to like it, or approve, but you know, if there's nothing else...
hells_half_acre
Oct. 2nd, 2010 08:03 am (UTC)
Though didn't that one imply that he was born to a normal family who then rejected him because he was a monster?

Oh yeah, I forgot about him! In that case, I'm pretty sure it must be the case that he was a rape-baby, whose Shifter-father never came to reclaim him. The shifter in Skin spoke along similar lines.

Though I do have to agree somewhat with the avclub reviewer that it was a little too easy. And it just feels a little fic-y, because I swear I've read it before.

I do agree that it all seemed a little easy. But, that being said, I'm not going to harp on it for being fanservice or fic-y. The fact is that a lot of people write on these themes, using these plot-devices for a REASON. I don't think the fact that it's over used in fanfic should preclude it from being used on the show. I don't really think that it was a show about a baby so much as they used the baby to hit the major points - Sam needing Dean's help. Dean not trusting the Campbells. The Alpha-Monster story-arc...and a catalyst to cause Lisa to be an awesome understanding girlfriend that gives us the ONLY way Dean would return to hunting without it making him a complete douchebag.

And on the topic of child endangerment, I think the difference here was that it was a baby. I think the other children were a bit older and could have things explained to them.

Yes, I think I agree with you on here.
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msninacat
Oct. 2nd, 2010 10:30 am (UTC)
Now, why he had to go meet Sam and have a look when he was going to have to go home and pack a bag again is beyond me, but that's what they did.

I think that was because Dean didn't want Sam to accidentally have any monsters follow him to the new house they just moved into.

And kudos for admitting your fanon fail! Seriously, I read tons of fanfic everyday but you have to remember what's actually canon before you complain about it. ;D

Also thank you for geeking out about the car and the song as much as I did. LOL For a moment, I thought it was just me.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
I think that was because Dean didn't want Sam to accidentally have any monsters follow him to the new house they just moved into.

Ooo...smart. I think that must be it.

And yeah, I like to keep that firm divider up between canon and fanon...but every once in a while something sneaks through :P

I think everyone geeked out about the car! :)
kaybee751
Oct. 2nd, 2010 05:13 pm (UTC)
One throw-away bit that may come back: how did the annoying cousin know that Dean was a torturer in Hell? Either Sam told him (which hopefully isn't the case as that's some high-level betrayal there), or cousin/the Campbells have some other insider information.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:26 pm (UTC)
See, I'm really afraid that Sam DID tell him. Right after he brought it up, there was a cut-away shot of Sam looking vaguely displeased...and yeah, I'm just really worried about that betrayal.

That being said, the Campbells seem to have the inside scoop on EVERYTHING...so, maybe it's just that they knew just how involved the Winchesters were with the apocalypse.
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liliaeth
Oct. 2nd, 2010 05:16 pm (UTC)
I was kinda annoyed with Sam about Christian knowing that Dean learned how to torture people, while he was in hell. I mean, how else would he have found out about that, if Sam hadn't told them.

Dean trusted Sam with knowing about that, about breaking in hell, and I don't think that Sam had the right to go tell people about that.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, I'm also worried that Sam told them. But, the Campbells also seem to be uber-knowledgable about everything...so there IS a slim possibility that they found out about both Sam's and Dean's rolls in the apocalypse without Sam having to say anything...

...still, though, studying the way they shot that scene. I think it might actually be a case of Sam telling them. And if that's the case, then that was a pretty shitty thing for Sam to do.
mymuseandi
Oct. 2nd, 2010 06:23 pm (UTC)
Ok, so at first I was a little disappointed that they explained away Dean's capability with babies by mentioning a niece of Lisa's or something...because I know I, and much of the rest of the fandom, were looking for confirmation that Dean is good with babies because he looked after Sam as a baby. But, then I realized that I was being ridiculous for many reasons:
1) that's FANON - there's no evidence that John was THAT horrible of a father.
2)Dean was 5 or 6 when Sam was a baby-baby. Speaking of someone who was 6 and 7 when their sibling was a baby-baby and who has a a VERY GOOD MEMORY...I have VERY little recollection from that time. Now, we know Dean has an awesome memory, because he remembers a fight his mum and Dad had when he was 4...but even with a strong memory, you aren't going to remember the ins and outs of caring for a baby from when you were 5/6. So, it's unrealistic to have that be the reason that Dean knows.
3)We know the boys had babysitters when they were young. Dean talked about one in S5, and we also MET one in S5.


I'm slightly disappointed too, but is that really fanon? I recalled - vaguely, but i think it really happened instead of me reading it somewhere - that Sam said that Dean raised him instead of John? Sometime in S1 or S2?

Although i'm reading the scene as Dean downplaying his abilities to care for a baby. He's rusty, yes, since it's been a long while since Sam was a baby, and maybe taking care of Lisa's niece meant that his paternal instincts are in the forefront of his mind, but his caring for Sam while younger do play a part in making him Dad material?

Or maybe i'm just romanticizing the whole thing. *shrugs*

Regardless, seeing Dean with a baby is really so aaww-inducing. :)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:36 pm (UTC)
There's a difference between raising a kid and looking after babies though...it's the same with my little sister. We were latchkey kids really, from when she was 5 or 6...and she's said before that I raised her. Raising is more like teaching right and wrong, manners, and how to tie your shoes and such. Whereas knowledge of babies is a completely separate thing.

Now, that being said, I didn't mean to imply that Sam had NOTHING to do with Dean's parenting skills. As you said, caring for Sam when he was younger is probably what made Dean the more paternal Winchester...and looking after Lisa's niece is what has caused him to know what modern baby-products to buy at the store and whatnot.

So, I don't think you are romanticizing it TOO much. I mean, baby-knowledge aside, Dean IS more paternal than Sam (and not just current-Sam, but past-Sam as well).

But yeah...boys and babies is adorable :)
katsheswims
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
As usual I agree with a lot of your points.

I was excited to see two Sams because it's the first time it's ever happened. We've seen 2 Dean's before-shifter Dean, and then future!Dean and present!Dean. And then in this ep. we saw two Dean's again. I'm not really sure why they did that. They could have had the shifter stay Sam and then have it attack Dean. I think that would have been more dramatic that way...

I did like how they let Dean leave Lisa. I was afaid they would kill her off, and though I wouldn't particularly mind, I don't want Dean to have that pain and guilt added on to his mind-and it would be too cliche because that's what happened to John and Sam to get them into/back into hunting. I've never likes Lisa, but this ep. actually made me start to like her a little. The talk at the end, where she told Dean to go and that's he's not a bad man for the hunting. And he can try to have both(though I don't think that will work out with her, but I guess you never know what the writers will do-I always pictured Sam and Dean in their older age, when they can't hunt as much, having a sort of mis between hunting and normal-or preferably they become hunter-gods and live in in legend, but that's just unrealistic fantasy hope).

Granpa Sam is definately untrustworthy. Having a boss...not a good sign.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 2nd, 2010 07:46 pm (UTC)
True, and Shifter!Sam attacking Dean would have been easier to film...BUT, you wouldn't have seen him shift without shedding skin. So, I think that's why they did it.

I'm always a little confused by people who "never liked" Lisa....because there wasn't anything to DISLIKE before. She didn't have enough character. So, I guess maybe you could have felt indifferent towards her, and then be annoyed that Dean was with someone that you didn't know much about...but anyway, PLEASE don't explain yourself, I don't actually want a list of everything you disliked about her.

I think the show has such a hard time because of the fanbase reaction to the females. That being said, I think they had to make Lisa so awesome, NOT to appease the fanbase, but to make it believable that Dean would care for her and want to stay with her. Also, she has to be awesome enough to allow Dean to leave AND stay, and try to have both, even if it means she's essentially alone again.

I also have the unrealistic fantasy hope that Sam and Dean become legends in their own right, and end up like Hunter-Gods....it's a nice dream. I don't know how their going to end the series now that Kripke's arc is over. He told us enough times that his arc was going to end bloody and sad...but Sera? I'm not sure yet. I'll still cross my fingers and hope for the ride-into-the-sunset ending that leaves the story open for people to imagine...even though that's really cheesy.

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rokhal
Oct. 3rd, 2010 12:40 am (UTC)
FYI, the shapeshifter lifecycle here is almost exactly the same as Dodger-Winslow's fic, "Skin Deep."
Thanks for the insight on the baby-care-as-a-grade-school-sibling thing, because Dean's uncertainty was bothering me when I watched the show.
Grandpa Sam is creepy to an exceptional degree. You know that moment where he held the baby and smiled at it? That's the exact same thing I used to do when I pulled my meat rabbits out of the holding pen before I cut their heads off!
Think the alpha shifter might have been symbolic? A thing that looks like Dean barges in and takes Dean's self-appointed charge from him?
hells_half_acre
Oct. 3rd, 2010 01:03 am (UTC)
Think the alpha shifter might have been symbolic? A thing that looks like Dean barges in and takes Dean's self-appointed charge from him?

Hmm...perhaps perhaps! Time will tell.

I agree totally about Grandpa Sam. Super creepy.

And hey, now problem on the insight thing. It just so happens I grew up with younger charges...6 was too early to remember anything about my sister's babyhood, besides a few odd snippets. But when I was 10/11 and I helped look after a baby cousin - well, a lot of my baby knowledge comes from THEN. That being said, I'm still awkward as all heck with babies.
trystan830
Oct. 3rd, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)
very cool thinky thoughts... i'll be posting mine on monday. probably.
hells_half_acre
Oct. 3rd, 2010 01:20 am (UTC)
Cool. I look forward to them.
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sinesofinsanity.dreamwidth.org
Oct. 3rd, 2010 07:22 pm (UTC)
One thing that's been bugging me which no-one has mentioned yet, why was Alpha-Shifter so obvious? Why barge in dressed as Samuel if he was just going to admit to being a shifter (I was totally expecting a "I'm the real Samuels!" showdown)? Then, why change out of the Samuels guise to visit the panic room as Sam? It would have saved him the trouble of ripping the door down. (He could have ripped it out later as part of the fight if the writers needed a show of strength.) The shift to Dean makes sense as by then it's obvious he's a shifter and if just toying with real!Dean.

Second thing. Why do monsters have to "come from" anywhere? Is there a pair of Alpha-humans walking around? No! Depending on your definition, he and she or hes and shes died thousands of years ago. Why couldn't monsters have evolved similarly? We have *never* seen a monster with unexplained backstory that lives forever. So we should be able to assume that if left un-killed shapeshifters, werewolves, ghouls, rugaroo, etc will just die of natural causes. (Seriously, confirmed semi-immortal creatures in this entire series are: vampires, demons, windegos, and angels. Even hell hounds and ghosts can be assumed to expire eventually). These people are playing with evolution and Darwin and I don't like it.

That being said, I did love the scene with Lisa (yay backbone!! And Ben has personality! woot!) And giggled a bit to manically during the Impala scene.
(Also, Sam makes Dean wear a seat belt!)
hells_half_acre
Oct. 3rd, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
The Alpha didn't barge in as Samuel. Samuel barged in because the Alpha shifter was fooling everyone already. As for why he changed to Sam...yeah, you have a point.

Humans aren't monsters, that's the difference. In Supernatural, humans are "natural" - everything else is "unnatural", meaning, for instance, that their origin could be an immortal thing and not evolution. Now, of course, if they have an Alpha Wendigo, I'll have to get up in arms...because wendigos are former human cannibals...but they'll probably just do Djinn, Werewolves, Vampires, and Shifters.

I loved Sam (or Sam's car) making Dean wear a seat-belt. A modern technology...so very annoying at times. (Personally, I can't put my backpack on the passenger seat while I'm driving, or else my car thinks it should have a seatbelt on :-P)
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